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legendary
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So fuck you, traumschiff, you just keep asking for a fight no matter what.

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The fact that I remain positively neutral to vanillacoin at this moment is already a significant achievement.

You got an interesting emotional scale if the comments so far were on the positive/neutral side.

The problem right here is that you take my words too literally which exposes your unconfidence and generates pointless drama. How would anyone of us really know if John has any unfair premine? And even when that turns out to be the case, what's so bad about it? It's a possibility and it doesn't immediately mean that this coin is foul and should be abandoned. Satoshi has an enormous premine. Didn't stop Bitcoin from succeeding. What worries me is the fact that you get so damn hostile immediately when encountered with something that threatens vanillacoin's reputation. Why? Are you so insecure? If you were confident about the coin you wouldn't try to defend it so hard. On the other hand, if you really are sensitive to criticism then why on Earth do you and your beloved dev act like assholes on newcomers? Does not compute. It's almost as if you were asking for it.
legendary
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So fuck you, traumschiff, you just keep asking for a fight no matter what.

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The fact that I remain positively neutral to vanillacoin at this moment is already a significant achievement.

You got an interesting emotional scale if the comments so far were on the positive/neutral side.
legendary
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You got rejected and continue to fud afterwards, the motive is way too obvious and clear.

Well if that's your definition of FUD. God you're a sensitive guy to criticism. You cannot even distinguish between genuine FUD and healthy scepticism. You know, I hate projects whose cult gets all on their toes at the sight of any threat. If Vanillacoin is the real deal then it can take the pressure and not break.

How much you want to invest Hyena?


As a result, I am investing into Vanillacoin.

Well, then Let me be the first to say ; Welcome! Smiley

I bought 5000 vanillacoins last night and I have buy orders for another 5000. Yes it's not much but considering the situation in this thread and with the dev I am simply not willing to lose more than 1 bitcoin in this project right now. The community and the dev just hasn't shown themselves from the bright side so far. The fact that I remain positively neutral to vanillacoin at this moment is already a significant achievement.
legendary
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How much you want to invest Hyena?


As a result, I am investing into Vanillacoin.

Well, then Let me be the first to say ; Welcome! Smiley
legendary
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As a result, I am investing into Vanillacoin.

Well, then Let me be the first to say ; Welcome! Smiley
legendary
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What the hell are you talking about? Who am I FUDding to death?


This is the sentence you start with and just a few lines later:


 Grin I wouldn't wonder if he expects to pay in premined vanillacoins. So as you can see, it's not all black and white, as usually. I'm still a bit sceptical about Vanillacoin.


John has been constantly buying. There was never a premine, and you pretty much validate any fud accusation you recieved in the same response.


Why is he hiring anyway? Maybe he wants to disappear and is looking for a replacement? Maybe he is hiring but does not intend to actually hire anyone?


You got rejected and continue to fud afterwards, the motive is way too obvious and clear.

legendary
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I sort of appear like a bad guy in this thread, so I guess it's OK to try to "put me in place".

WHO FUCKING CARES WHAT KIND OF PERSONALITY THE DEV HAS??

As I said earlier, good skills often come with a bad personality. Look at me, for example Cheesy . I acknowledge that and it was the only reason why I took my time to investigate what Vanillacoin really was. A scammer would not act like a dickhead but instead would try to lure as many people into his scam as possible. Did John Connor act like that? Hell no. He acts like a prick. So from here I deduced that his coin must be so good --- if he can afford to behave like that he's probably not a scammer. So to answer your burst of anger --- yes people actually care about the personality of the dev and it is a wise thing to do so. You, on the other hand, seem a bit naive. Personality betrays a lot about a person's intentions and this shit is all about money here. Who wants to lose money to another scammer? Not me.

Hyena, you act like a hyena.

You lied in everything you said since you started writing here...

You ... the pro master, with big ego, and big knowledge, said to yourself... "john connor hiring 10 years coder like me? the motherfucker coder hyena of the universe?Huh" lets see how much he will pay me?

And you found another ego master of the universe, more motherfucker than you... which discarded you in few seconds... And you are angry now?  Cheesy

hahahah mate! all of this conversation is so funny, is like a kiddie conversation with lies, biggest cocks, etc...

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

I'm glad you find it funny because to make fun is one of my intentions. Those who get it will get it. Others will just think that I'm the bad guy. I didn't lie though. I was just not telling everything in the very beginning. There's a difference between outright lying and not telling the whole truth Cheesy

Huh, well truth will set you free, but...
... if you are employed as good coder or team leader than you should know what salary is about but the way you act here no matter what your coding skills are and experience is I wouldnt give you the job not even if you would accept to get paid in your future value of BTC. Strategy "I'll FUD you to death" unless you hire me is not the way to go Sherlock.

What the hell are you talking about? Who am I FUDding to death? I briefly investigated what Vanillacoin is because John Connor's shitty attitude made me think that it could be something good. I found some FUD about it so I posted it to ask the cult's opinion. Of course the cult explained the matter as expected but nevertheless explained it well. As a result, I am investing into Vanillacoin.

The "I wouldnt give you the job" part is kind of childish from you. Who cares about you, you're just some random dude trying to defend his cult leader. Do you even employ people? Do you understand that different countries have very different salaries? I know damn well what salaries local companies and organizations are willing to pay to good programmers but I know a little about the salaries in the bitcoin space where devs work from different countries.

Perhaps John wants to pay in Vanillacoins? I don't know that because he never told me it. I asked about the salary right away and I asked who is going to finance it. Later I discovered that John himself was the angel investor of Vanillacoin  Roll Eyes  Grin I wouldn't wonder if he expects to pay in premined vanillacoins. So as you can see, it's not all black and white, as usually. I'm still a bit sceptical about Vanillacoin.

Why is he hiring anyway? Maybe he wants to disappear and is looking for a replacement? Maybe he is hiring but does not intend to actually hire anyone? Just like I was sending the CV but was not intending to get hired Cheesy . Perhaps this is all a marketing stunt? He obviously wants a guy with established reputation. It means it's more about marketing than it is about finding a good coder. Marketing sure wouldn't hurt Vanillacoin at the moment Cheesy but is it the most optimal way? If his coin is so good, I would rather have some paid articles published about it.

Anyway, I like the guy who said that this conversation is like boys comparing their dicks Cheesy It's exactly how it always looks like if you have a debate about someone getting his job application rejected and he's still insisting that he should have been hired. Who gives a shit? Why did I even bring this up? To virtually lick the wounds of my ego? Cheesy It definitely looks like that in retrospective. Whatever the truth is, the excuse for me was to tell you my story so that other lurkers with similar faith could potentially find some relief from here.
sr. member
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Diamond good coin
Vanilla, Vanilla, I feel like the air smells burnt vanilla and frightened hamsters  Grin
hero member
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Thanks for this, couldn't have said it better!

Regards

Goldmaxx

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I can lurk no longer in this thread. To this post, I must reply.

WHO FUCKING CARES WHAT KIND OF PERSONALITY THE DEV HAS??

He doesn't like your 10 yrs experience. That doesn't matter. It's more likely he wants someone with this fancy network programming experience anyway, which is unlikely that you have.

Lots of talented people are painfully arrogant. You know why? Because everyone they interact with is technically incompetent by their standards and it gets a little frustrating.

If anyone sells because John Connor doesn't make a good guest at a dinner party, then they deserve to lose any and all money they lose. And they probably lose it on a regular basis.

sr. member
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I read that Vanillacoin aims to become anonymous. Is there any technical information available how it attempts to achieve anonymous transactions? So far all the coins that claim to be anonymous have actually a flawed anonymity which I wouldn't even call anonymity.


There's a whitepaper. I'd point you to it but according to crypto gurus I've talked to, it's too thin on details. Maybe I'll send one here to say why.
sr. member
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Hello everyone in this thread. Today someone posted a C++ job advertisement on the bitcoin's block chain:
http://cryptograffiti.info/?txnr=4054
the above link finally guides you here: https://talk.vanillacoin.net/topic/284/job-listings

So, out of curiosity I sent my CV to that John Connor dude. I have 10 years of C and C++ development experience and turned out it didn't satisfy John's needs (for whatever the actual reason was). His e-mails were rather cocky and his reasoning is sort of alien to me from the software developer's point of view. For example, if I was to look for a C++ programmer, I wouldn't immediately discard someone for 10 years of experience as if it was not enough. A good lead programmer chooses their team by the actual skills of people (testing them if needed) not just blatantly stating strange stuff such as "university experience does not count".

Since I'm also a cryptocurrency investor, I started to investigate whether Vanillacoin is worth investment. Here's one article about it that I found particularly interesting:
http://www.cryptocollectorsclub.com/vanillacoin-secrets.html

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the dev is a bit of an egomaniac, perhaps just doesn't care about the community or gaining fans early on?

I laughed when I read this because it proves that John Connor is actually an arrogant person and it was not just me who perceived him as such Cheesy

I then stumbled upon this reddit section:
https://www.reddit.com/r/VanillaCoin/comments/3b25f6/welcome_to_the_uncensored_vanillacoin_subreddit/

It doesn't paint a nice picture of neither Vanillacoin nor John Connor. I was going to buy some vanillacoins but after reading this stuff I am having second thoughts. Smells like Paycoin all over again. Any reason why this criticism should be discarded? I mean, this could all be just unintentional FUD by me. In that case, prove me wrong.


I can lurk no longer in this thread. To this post, I must reply.

WHO FUCKING CARES WHAT KIND OF PERSONALITY THE DEV HAS??

He doesn't like your 10 yrs experience. That doesn't matter. It's more likely he wants someone with this fancy network programming experience anyway, which is unlikely that you have.

Lots of talented people are painfully arrogant. You know why? Because everyone they interact with is technically incompetent by their standards and it gets a little frustrating.

If anyone sells because John Connor doesn't make a good guest at a dinner party, then they deserve to lose any and all money they lose. And they probably lose it on a regular basis.
legendary
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Hyena, you act like a hyena.

You lied in everything you said since you started writing here...

You ... the pro master, with big ego, and big knowledge, said to yourself... "john connor hiring 10 years coder like me? the motherfucker coder hyena of the universe?Huh" lets see how much he will pay me?

And you found another ego master of the universe, more motherfucker than you... which discarded you in few seconds... And you are angry now?  Cheesy

hahahah mate! all of this conversation is so funny, is like a kiddie conversation with lies, biggest cocks, etc...

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


Making jokes of writting brackets at the beginning of lines, as if that had something to do with quality of code. Do you know who Dennis Ritchie is? Then have a look at his code.

Someone didn't get the joke.

1- Why a good programmer with 10 years of experience like you is searching job  Huh You must be working in a big company!!
2- You didn't searched anything about the job you was sending CV???. Do you send your CV like mailshot???

dude your facts talk before you. If you judge others, others will judge you... Is the cause-efect.

Don't judge to don't be judged.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQaSRKP8Dho&feature=youtu.be&t=12

Good programmers such as myself often come with a cocky attitude

Okey okey enough of this bullshit already. I admit, I was not looking for a job as I am already employed and living good life. I was just curious what salary the guy would offer, who knows --- maybe it would have been worth it. So I literally threw in the e-mail as if I didn't care and I didn't, so you are right. I got what I deserved Cheesy and I'm upset only because the guy doesn't respect university experience and doesn't understand the fact that 10 years of experience and 15 years of experience are not that different. I have seen a C programmer (old fuck, 40 years old) with 20 years of experience who writes just horrific code. In fact, I was the one who insisted my team lead not to hire that guy. So anyone with a hiring strategy similar to John Connor's is either inexperienced or has some other beef with the candidate.
hero member
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Making jokes of writting brackets at the beginning of lines, as if that had something to do with quality of code. Do you know who Dennis Ritchie is? Then have a look at his code.

Someone didn't get the joke.

1- Why a good programmer with 10 years of experience like you is searching job  Huh You must be working in a big company!!
2- You didn't searched anything about the job you was sending CV???. Do you send your CV like mailshot???

dude your facts talk before you. If you judge others, others will judge you... Is the cause-efect.

Don't judge to don't be judged.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQaSRKP8Dho&feature=youtu.be&t=12

Good programmers such as myself often come with a cocky attitude

Okey okey enough of this bullshit already. I admit, I was not looking for a job as I am already employed and living good life. I was just curious what salary the guy would offer, who knows --- maybe it would have been worth it. So I literally threw in the e-mail as if I didn't care and I didn't, so you are right. I got what I deserved Cheesy and I'm upset only because the guy doesn't respect university experience and doesn't understand the fact that 10 years of experience and 15 years of experience are not that different. I have seen a C programmer (old fuck, 40 years old) with 20 years of experience who writes just horrific code. In fact, I was the one who insisted my team lead not to hire that guy. So anyone with a hiring strategy similar to John Connor's is either inexperienced or has some other beef with the candidate.

Huh, well truth will set you free, but...
... if you are employed as good coder or team leader than you should know what salary is about but the way you act here no matter what your coding skills are and experience is I wouldnt give you the job not even if you would accept to get paid in your future value of BTC. Strategy "I'll FUD you to death" unless you hire me is not the way to go Sherlock.
legendary
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lol, we poor humans, are bitter predictable ego driven creatures  Smiley
legendary
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Nice to see you in here hyena!!
Old school bit coin talk members are always welcome.
legendary
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Uh oh. 40 years old is an old fuck? I admit that when I was 20 I was a great coder. I went a different direction in my life, and could never code now like when I was young, however as a 20 year old I (and all 20 year olds) have not enough experience behind them or wisdom that only comes with age.  If you are just going to code Halo 5, you don't need experience or wisdom. If you are going to code a game changing crypto currency that has broad economic and privacy issues, it sure helps to not be 20.
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legendary
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Making jokes of writting brackets at the beginning of lines, as if that had something to do with quality of code. Do you know who Dennis Ritchie is? Then have a look at his code.

Someone didn't get the joke.

1- Why a good programmer with 10 years of experience like you is searching job  Huh You must be working in a big company!!
2- You didn't searched anything about the job you was sending CV???. Do you send your CV like mailshot???

dude your facts talk before you. If you judge others, others will judge you... Is the cause-efect.

Don't judge to don't be judged.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQaSRKP8Dho&feature=youtu.be&t=12

Good programmers such as myself often come with a cocky attitude

Okey okey enough of this bullshit already. I admit, I was not looking for a job as I am already employed and living good life. I was just curious what salary the guy would offer, who knows --- maybe it would have been worth it. So I literally threw in the e-mail as if I didn't care and I didn't, so you are right. I got what I deserved Cheesy and I'm upset only because the guy doesn't respect university experience and doesn't understand the fact that 10 years of experience and 15 years of experience are not that different. I have seen a C programmer (old fuck, 40 years old) with 20 years of experience who writes just horrific code. In fact, I was the one who insisted my team lead not to hire that guy. So anyone with a hiring strategy similar to John Connor's is either inexperienced or has some other beef with the candidate.
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