Topic: Unreasonable ban of Snork1979 account - page 6. (Read 2537 times)

I should have read this post before reading the OP's link in Russian (previously translated). Besides, it is clear that this guy does not understand that correlation does not imply causation.

but what the heck was that sentence suppose to mean?? Like, he felt some false sense of humiliation from his moderator cause he was opposed for an impartial political judgement or something?? "Our Ukrainian moderator" bla bla bla,... what does that even mean?
He ain't allowing complaints to be layed against him in Russian -- I mean, that's understandable cause I don't understand russian.

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looks like I'm a bit late to the party... I gotta read through Edit: Did you just say you realized this for the first time in 6 years??
Secondly, is the fact that you already created several alts alphabetically a way to further prove your nasty insubordination -- even to your local moderator?
Just had to look up and I seen you got a couple of red tags from your community members for obviously the same reason.
Again, was this SUPPOSED TO BE A BAN APPEAL thread?

Two years later? Kinda stretching the "after" here.

Write a letter to theymos. I am sure he will fix this asap. Otherwise nothing much you can do other than complaining of course. Sadly many parts of the internet are infected with people who carry the woke mind virus. Especially reddit. This forum is partly infected too but the global part is still (partly at least) fine imo. You might wanna leave your local board completely and express your opinions in global if Theymos doesn’t do anything about it. Remember: the Demo*rats are all for free speech as long as it benefits them. These freaks banned their own president from the social media not so long ago.

The way I see it, trust is only supposed to be given for trades. For P2P marketplace purposes.

Most of the negative trust nowadays is symbolic but let's be honest here, do you think anyone would do a trade with people like OP? Or even whether the OP himself would do such a trade? Most people who register here aren't looking to buy or sell.

It shouldn't have to do with whether or not the people who tagged him would make a deal with him. There's plenty of people I wouldn't deal with and I wouldn't leave them a red tag for it. It depends on whether or not behavior exhibited suggests they are "high risk." I suppose its subjective but based on what is written in the tags, they should all be neutral instead of red. It just happens that the war is a very contentious subject and sometimes people let their emotions get the best of them.

Thank you for your objective assessment of the situation.
As I have found, few people here are capable of that.
As I see it, most participants think that it is "normal" to put red tags for political reasons.

Yes, after 6 years on our forum, I finally understood why many participants create several accounts )
Fortunately, there is very weak protection against creating multiple accounts, as I have already seen in the last two weeks. There is not even verification and confirmation of e-mail or anything else. And therefore, creating a new account takes no more than 2 minutes.

Yes, icopress made a bet with me.
He lost to me then and paid the money.
After which he gave me a red tag.

I don't see it that way. A red tag means that the person who leaves it believes that dealing with the one in the profile is high risk. In this case the red tags have a political origin and in principle it might seem that they are not justified but do you think that any of the three who left him a red tag would make any kind of economic deal with the OP? This is a case of not trusting someone because of how they behave on the forum, even if you have not had any economic dealings with them.

The other reason for not moving it is its a form of ban evasion to post outside of Meta while your primary account is banned.

You have a point that the red tags on your account aren't really justified. However, it appears that the ban is. When you are unbanned, try not to troll so much so it doesn't happen again. Good luck.

After seeing the comments I saw above, I have nothing to say here, but one thing I did not like at all is that the important members of the forum explained everything to him so beautifully, but he kept replying to every word without listening to anyone. I found this very bad. Everyone explained it so beautifully and in a friendly manner, yet he is talking about a different ego.

Sonk1979_ I have some important things for you, I hope you have got a very good answer to the problem you posted here. And there is no need to create multiple accounts like this, you talk everything with one account, don't create so many alt accounts, it is ruining your reputation in the forum.

This may seem like this to you, but it does not seem like this to me because the way he talks, it seems that he is not a new member here, he is a very old and well-understanding member. I think he is doing this on purpose by creating new accounts. You may have seen on the reporting board that for a few days now, a new member has been creating multiple accounts and posting different types of posts, and despite giving him good advice, he hasn't stopped. I wonder if something similar has started here too.

But you still provoked the moderator to ban you. I would say that politics still concerns you.
As I said before, there are better places than Bitcointalk for a dramatic discussion of politics, and you are proof of that. Legendary member when you wrote about Bitcoin & crypto, banned when you moved to the political part.

Man, you'll be very surprised, but I got my legendary status on our forum precisely for discussions related to Bitcoin and crypto (I don't care about politics as long as it doesn't concern me).
So I know exactly what that forum is about.

It seems you didn't read carefully.
The global moderator @hilariousandco wrote directly that this discussion should be in Meta.
And suchmoon answered my simple question "A or B?" with "Yes" and didn't write anything more intelligible.

Try to understand that many who are experienced have advised you to post it on the reputation board. @hilariousandco (Global Moderator) and @suchmoon already responded.

The best solution is if you move it to the reputation board.

Man, the Bitcointalk forum is mainly focused on discussions related to Bitcoin and crypto. OK, other discussions outside the cryptosystem are also allowed, but certainly, any political rampage is not something we want here. If you want unlimited discussions about politics and war, surely there are more friendly places for that. Bitcointalk.org is not one of those places.

To me, this looks like a person who can't remember the password until the next login, so it's easier for him to create a new account.

I am very pleased that my topic has generated such interest in our crypto community.
Thank you!

I will answer in order:

I have also been on this forum for a long time and have never been banned here with such wording before.
They only started banning this year and only those who support Russia.
If you support Ukraine, you won't be banned in the Russian section for trolling, off-topic, or even for posting photos of corpses and wishing death to all Russians.
That's the kind of double moderation standards we have now.

80 years ago, people who refused to support the Nazi regime of the Third Reich were sent to concentration camps.
Now, people who refuse to support Ukraine are given negative trust and banned.
Nothing has fundamentally changed in 80 years. Isn't that right?

Excellent lesson!
In addition to "religion, race or nationality", I would also add "political views".
Perhaps you could tell our "respected forum members 1miau, Icopress and GazetaBitcoin" about this lesson?
And they will stop giving negative trust to people who have different political views?

Simple answer: to write on our forum.
When Xal0lex banned me for 30 days for my support of Russia, I simply left the forum for 30 days. But now I will not remain silent.
So I create a new account and write under it (without spam and offtopic). Then Xal0lex comes and bans this new account.
Then I create a new account and continue writing under it.

I am here to challenge the illegal actions of our moderator Xal0lex.

Unfortunately, this law is not followed in the Russian part of the forum.
If trolling and off-topic are now subject to ban, then why were none of my opponents banned? Given that there is much more trolling and off-topic on their part than on mine.
But, as I already said, only those users who support Russia are banned.
Xal0lex does not ban users who support Ukraine.

I am a citizen of Russia and I support Russia.
Xal0lex is a citizen of Ukraine and he supports Ukraine.
I understand this perfectly well. And there are no claims against him for this reason.
But using moderator powers for personal purposes is a violation.

Yes, it took me several days and several new accounts to get this information.

There is no word "global" in Xal0lex's profile.
But that doesn't stop him from banning users he doesn't like.

It's very easy to write about empathy when the war doesn't affect you and your country.
I hope the war never affects you.

I second @NotfuzzyWarm' s opinion. I mean what better way is there to continue your mindless rant and obviously senseless charade than to cook up more accounts when the previous ones get flagged for breaking the rules? Everyone is entitled to their opinions but it's important that we show a little empathy for thosr warring nations and the fact that you aren't happy with the other side that is affected by the way doesn't mean you have to use hateful words on them.

 The thing with some of these spammers and trolls is that they are the ones to cry foul and immediately seek redress like they were unnecessarily penalized or mistreated but when you check deeper, you'd find out that they are deserving of the punishment meted on them.

I am not sure that the moderator of your local board can ban you. Unless he is a global moderator. I don't know if Xal0lex is now a global moderator.
Again, reading the feedback on your profile shows that you are a troll and supports Putin invasion of Ukraine to a large extent. The negative tag should be ok, maybe you broke a different rule that led to your ban.

Forum issues belong in meta and given it's about a staff member Meta is the place for it.

Are you here to make an appeal or to question the moderators responsibilities.


we have more than millions of users on this forum and this has been from time to time and am just coming across something like this for the first time from an inconsiderate user like you, if there is no law, there is no sin, you go against the law and you receive the consequences, why the worry.


Yes, because no one is above the law, including the admin.


This forum is called bitcointalk, everyone has the freedom of talking, but not for you to abuse the privilege that through such you get banned, you wont ever state your own reason for gettign banned, i know that, moreover i expect you to engage mostly in making arguments or discussions about bitcoin and not political, which may renders all your efforts here irrelevant.

Because the OP is apparently a self-righteous asshat on a crusade?