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Topic: Untouchable Savings: Do you have it? - page 7. (Read 993 times)

legendary
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February 10, 2023, 03:34:22 PM
#52
The truth of the matter is that, money can never be compared to water, like in the tweet, water is a natural resources while money is not, if you are in the desert, and you ran out of water, there's always a chance that you would come across water some where, some how, even if it's a dirty water.
But on the other hand, money is man made and very difficult to come by, so just as water serve as a solution to thirst and other basic things like bathing, cooking etc, money on serve as a solution to majorly every thing in life including buying water, so as such, it is not wise for one to spend their money to the last kobo except the spending involves saving a life or lives, a man should have always savings, be it untouchable or not, savings is savings, and why do we save in the first place?
It's so that we will have a solution to unforseen circumstances and came without us being prepared for it.

Someone who have savings, and yet died of a sickness that could have been easily treated, by spending part of his or her savings, or even all, is a fool..
legendary
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February 10, 2023, 03:08:13 PM
#51
I have done that for many years, but when we reached the all-time-high price of $60 000+ ...I decided to sell some, because I wanted to change my life while I could still make a 800%+ profit on it. I do not care if it goes to $500 000 per coin, because it already changed my life.... and I can now say that I profited, before anything happens to it.  Cool
if you bought say 1btc at $7.5k to sell at $60k to make profit of 800%
keep ~5/8 profit. and put in 3/8 (~$22.5k) for the next cycle

it would mean you already turned $7.5k into $37.5k 400%(if you ignore re-investment amount)
a nice win in of itself

and a side lot of $22.5k that can turn into more in the next cycle

which because you are already $30k up. 400% (if you ignore re-investment amount)
then you can enjoy that win AND saving for the next roll around

or even just re-invest the 7.5k again. at 0.33coin and keep the other $52.5k to live on, enjoy
legendary
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February 10, 2023, 02:20:57 PM
#50
OP, yes.... we can apply this to all these Bitcoin hoarders.. that are gathering bitcoins like Scrooge McDuck and never selling any of it. Can you imagine paying thousands of Dollars for some bitcoins and then everything going ape shit and the Bitcoin price going to zero.  Roll Eyes

I have done that for many years, but when we reached the all-time-high price of $60 000+ ...I decided to sell some, because I wanted to change my life while I could still make a 800%+ profit on it. I do not care if it goes to $500 000 per coin, because it already changed my life.... and I can now say that I profited, before anything happens to it.  Cool
legendary
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February 10, 2023, 02:07:10 PM
#49
I stumbled upon this interesting tweet days ago.


https://twitter.com/SchrodingrsBrat/status/1622320014215856128?cxt=HHwWgIC-9aPd0YMtAAAA

Many of the comments are equally interesting. They apply the idea to all kinds of things including the game Resident Evil. And then I thought perhaps this is also true in the economic aspect of life. Perhaps this aptly applies to those whose economic lives are like the desert and whose little money they have they keep tightly for the hardest of days.

When I was studying in the university far from family and relatives or even family friends, I had a difficult time. Money is extremely scarce. Early mornings are usually for hot drinks-- coffee, chocolate, milk, tea, or whatever. I realized that what made those drinks important is that they are hot. So I learned to drink only a hot cup of water which I could easily ask for free from the eatery in front of where I stayed.

Come meal time, I would also request that the serving be made in half. That's to save money. But I had the money. I always made sure I have some. Emergencies and unforeseen expenses may arise anytime. So I need to have money all the time, but I won't touch it. Ironically, it also gave me hunger, inconvenience, discomfort at times.

My story is rather uninteresting, but let me know yours. Does this idea also apply to you? You could have the money to buy a new car to replace your old and broken one but you prefer not to touch it. Do you hold yourself from spending what you have to the point of depriving yourself of what you deserve? Do you keep significant savings for occasions that might only happen in your imagination? Or at what point would you allow yourself to be drained of your last penny?

Yes, in my opinion, every person should have savings.

This is due to the fact that unexpected catastrophic events can occur in the life of every person (loss of a hired job, illness, serious injury, etc.).

Also, a person may be faced with the need to make large financial expenditures. For example, a person may urgently need money for treatment, purchase of real estate, marriage, etc.  It is also possible that he will have a chance to earn a large amount of money, and for this he will need to make investments. Therefore, financial advisers recommend that 10 percent of all their income be directed to the Savings Fund.

I understand the expediency of such financial discipline, but inflation in my country is very high and in order to maintain the same standard of living, I very often spend money from the Savings Fund. It's not very good ...
legendary
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February 10, 2023, 01:30:04 PM
#48
The idea of untouchable savings do not make too much sense to me, if it is untouchable by that logic it should also be not helpful at all. If you are not going to cash that out, will you basically die before you touch it? Will you leave it to your kids? If so, it will never have any impact on your life at all, makes no sense to me.

I personally believe that you should see every savings touchable so that it could have an impact on your life, selling and getting out before it reaches to that impact is a mistake and you shouldn't touch it until that point, but after it becomes big enough or it is a moment in your life that matters enough that you could sell and have an impact? Then you should sell.
legendary
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February 10, 2023, 07:56:31 AM
#47
When it comes to being thrifty and economizing throughout college, I hear you. Even I have had to learn to prioritize my expenditures and make do with less in order to make ends meet. Finding a happy medium between saving for emergencies and spending on necessities might be difficult, but I believe it is essential.

On the other hand, I think it's important to appreciate one's existence and not deny oneself the things that make life worthwhile. There's a narrow line between living for now and investing for tomorrow, but if you can walk it, you'll be able to enjoy both.

Setting financial goals and making a budget have helped me in the past with controlling my personal spending and saving. Knowing exactly how much money is coming in and going out each month helps me set financial priorities. To make sure you stay on track, it's also essential to regularly evaluate your progress toward your objectives and make any necessary adjustments to your budget.
sr. member
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February 10, 2023, 03:49:04 AM
#46
True be told, money gives me peace of mind, my mind will never be a rest if I don't at least have some fund saved somewhere, I prefer if something happens to me (death) while having some money, it is more better than having a long life with no money.

In 2016 I had a million in my local fiat currency that I couldn't touched, because I have goal that most be achieved, even when all my clothes turned rag I kept managing two for a year and a half, later, that money changed everything for me.

In early 2017 , I bought my first Asic and make money through the year into 2018, paid for my tailoring academy and later sold the asic in 2018 bear market, to cut the story short, that 1 million changed everything for me, till this day.
member
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February 10, 2023, 02:01:10 AM
#45
To be honest, I have a lot of untouchable savings and same as you, I don't intend to use it unless there are emergencies that I really need to take care of. We may have different reasons why we have shaped this mentality but overall, I believe a really horrible experiecence or a period of hard life leads to where we are. However, refusing to use the untouchable savings does not mean our life has been deprived of what we deserve. I certainly feel financially secure or at least confident with all savings and my standard of living is quite stable and reasonable because I get my needs satisfied. For example, I bought a new SUV nearly two years ago and that was basically for my family because at the time my daughter was newly born. The cost did not bother me much even if I took the money from my savings because I already made the equivalent money and put it into savings. Am I still holding the savings tight ? Yes of course but I am also open to any reasonale spending if that improves my life in general. Therefore, I would never be like the people who died in the desert with bottles full of water.
legendary
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February 09, 2023, 10:19:15 PM
#44
Rational people will have, if they can afford it (!), some savings they will not touch unless something big and bad happens. Does this means they'll die before spending all their money? Yes, and it's fine. Having a certain peace of mind has its costs.

You're probably right. In real life, however, it's more interesting. I have an uncle who died with much money. He was thrifty. He normally bought used clothes only. I guess he was a bit paranoid so he saved a lot for whatever extreme may come, probably health issues and costly hospital bills when he gets old. On his deathbed, ill, he told me he'll be recovering soon because he has yet to go to the Holy Land. That was apparently on his bucket list. He never made it there. He left more than $20,000 in his bank accounts.

It made me think, what if he lived to the fullest, spending all his money down to the last penny, and died penniless but satisfied? Would it have been better?

My aunty was a very hard-working woman that engaged in so many trades to ensure that she saved for her children. Due to her quest to save for my cousin, she always ate an unbalanced diet and visits quack doctors whenever she was ill. My mother will always advise her to take good care of herself but she refused to heed her advice. She died because she ensured that her savings are untouchable. A few months after her death, my cousins squandered all she had saved for them.

Such an unfortunate yet common scenario here in my country. I don't know if this has something to do with human nature or something cultural.

The same principles might apply to money. Actively spending and going broke could produce incentive and motivation to develop methods to amass more money. While rationing expenditures might produce an illusion of comfort and safety.

I appreciate your view. I love the idea.

My observation here is that this is usually the case with the people who are daily wage earners or those who are living with side hustles only. Near my place is a slum. Some of the people who live there are my friends. I noticed that they are also the people who don't think twice of spending whatever money they have. I can even go as far as saying they normally have better food on the table than those with permanent jobs. I'm even awed at their ability to disregard what you call the "illusion of comfort and safety." They're not afraid to go broke. I guess it's not a risk for them. They're living their lives day by day. Having no money simply means they need to look for some work.

I have Untouchable Savings. I keep in usdt as i believe savings should be liquid at all times. Any banks for storage are highly unreliable. Keeping Untouchable Savings in gold and the like is also unreliable.

This looks bad to me. I don't agree, and I don't encourage this. USDT is more unreliable than gold and money kept in banks.
hero member
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February 09, 2023, 09:19:13 PM
#43
I think this kind of mindset tends to show itself as we grow older, and more intelligent on the financial side of things. But when we are young, we don't know how to save for the rainy days and think of our future.

That's why it really good to let the young generations knows a thing or two with regards to investment specially assets like bitcoin. It should be in the long run and what we all preach, invest what you can afford to lose.
legendary
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February 09, 2023, 07:34:16 PM
#42
Well, yes. I tend to allot my budget for the whole month and that includes personal savings and emergency funds separately. I am fully aware that there will be times that those alloted money could be spent for any reason possible but atleast, if you planned where those funds will really be used, you'd resist not to use all of it to another thing which it wasn't meant to. On a long run, having savings would really be helpful especially in times of need and for future purposes ofcourse. But I won't judge those who does not have it simply because we are going through different circumstances; ofcourse anyone would dream to have a savings but not all would be capable especially if the salary itself won't be enough for a daily living.
hero member
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February 09, 2023, 07:30:22 PM
#41
Personally, your way of saving is way too extreme; I'm not going to start eating less in order to save money. Yes, I will avoid buying junk food, such as chips, chocolate, candy, etc., but not cut down on food. I'm also not going to be drinking plain hot water; I'll buy a coffee or a hot chocolate every now and then; it's no biggie; I'm still saving money. I'm not going to become obsessed with money by living my life poorly.

Moreover, as Lucius already mentioned, an older car might be more expensive to run in the long run. My previous one kept breaking down and requiring repairs much more frequently than my newer one, which I've only replaced a resistor on so far, which I did myself.
legendary
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February 09, 2023, 07:14:59 PM
#40
I have Untouchable Savings. I keep in usdt as i believe savings should be liquid at all times. Any banks for storage are highly unreliable. Keeping Untouchable Savings in gold and the like is also unreliable.
hero member
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February 09, 2023, 07:07:38 PM
#39
I would rather spend less than don't touch it to deprive more of yourself. Although, you can't help it because when you really needed it you will have to get it but of course, you still have to control yourself from spending them all at once or buying unnecessary things that you don't want right now.

Maybe if I try the untouchables savings, it will need a year or so before I touch it again, depending on the needs. But overall, there's always something left to that savings since I don't spend them all like what most people do. They get to work then get their salary and spend it like a millionaire on a single day then deprive their selves again for another month or most likely they will take loan which is adding more problem but they don't bother it anyway as long as they have money but they didn't think how expensive they were when trying to live.
Everything should really be in control or simply in moderation because spending too much is always been bad and there's no way that you wont really suffer out and this is where people been thinking or should be thinking
on which spending on something that is important which should be prioritize first and be practical as much as possible.We know that we cant be healthy forever on which there's a time that we might be needing
soo much money specially when health issues do able to hit up us hard where finances would be mainly be affected.In overall your riches cant really be brought into your grave and this is why
some people do really spend up on something which they do enjoy their lives.
sr. member
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February 09, 2023, 06:59:03 PM
#38
I would rather spend less than don't touch it to deprive more of yourself. Although, you can't help it because when you really needed it you will have to get it but of course, you still have to control yourself from spending them all at once or buying unnecessary things that you don't want right now.

Maybe if I try the untouchables savings, it will need a year or so before I touch it again, depending on the needs. But overall, there's always something left to that savings since I don't spend them all like what most people do. They get to work then get their salary and spend it like a millionaire on a single day then deprive their selves again for another month or most likely they will take loan which is adding more problem but they don't bother it anyway as long as they have money but they didn't think how expensive they were when trying to live.
hero member
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February 09, 2023, 06:20:11 PM
#37
I stumbled upon this interesting tweet days ago.


https://twitter.com/SchrodingrsBrat/status/1622320014215856128?cxt=HHwWgIC-9aPd0YMtAAAA

Many of the comments are equally interesting. They apply the idea to all kinds of things including the game Resident Evil. And then I thought perhaps this is also true in the economic aspect of life. Perhaps this aptly applies to those whose economic lives are like the desert and whose little money they have they keep tightly for the hardest of days.

When I was studying in the university far from family and relatives or even family friends, I had a difficult time. Money is extremely scarce. Early mornings are usually for hot drinks-- coffee, chocolate, milk, tea, or whatever. I realized that what made those drinks important is that they are hot. So I learned to drink only a hot cup of water which I could easily ask for free from the eatery in front of where I stayed.

Come meal time, I would also request that the serving be made in half. That's to save money. But I had the money. I always made sure I have some. Emergencies and unforeseen expenses may arise anytime. So I need to have money all the time, but I won't touch it. Ironically, it also gave me hunger, inconvenience, discomfort at times.

My story is rather uninteresting, but let me know yours. Does this idea also apply to you? You could have the money to buy a new car to replace your old and broken one but you prefer not to touch it. Do you hold yourself from spending what you have to the point of depriving yourself of what you deserve? Do you keep significant savings for occasions that might only happen in your imagination? Or at what point would you allow yourself to be drained of your last penny?
It surely applied to me at one point, especially the same as your situation OP. Back then funds aren't as easy to come as when you're employed, given the fact that I was forced to study only to "focus more" on getting that degree. That being said it made me very stingy of the very little money I get every week. The very little money I have however, is spent on things that are of value to me. Things that I know would help me later down the line, so in essence it's not really untouchable money. But during the time and the eventuality of me saving money, I'd find myself thinking that I'd rather save than starve the next day, I only ever really stopped when I realized it's causing some huge detriments on my health too.

One thing that I'd just like to put out as a rule of thumb for people out here who are in the same spot. The money you save by jeopardizing your health and your well-being will be gone when you have to pay for hospital bills. So it's fine if you couldn't save for now, health is wealth as they say.
sr. member
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February 09, 2023, 05:59:07 PM
#36
My story is rather uninteresting, but let me know yours. Does this idea also apply to you? You could have the money to buy a new car to replace your old and broken one but you prefer not to touch it. Do you hold yourself from spending what you have to the point of depriving yourself of what you deserve? Do you keep significant savings for occasions that might only happen in your imagination? Or at what point would you allow yourself to be drained of your last penny?
Not spending your savings is fine as long as it serve its purpose and personally, I have some savings that I’m still not using because its intended for a different purpose like for emergency purposes but I’m not depriving myself into anything since I can still get what I want even if I save money. I believe how you handle your finances will matter here, don’t be too hard with yourself, if you have the money to spend on important things then spend it, and buying your wants sometimes is fine. Having a limited budget will force you to be more strict with your money, I’ve been into this situation and its really not easy to spend your hard earned money.
sr. member
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February 09, 2023, 05:55:27 PM
#35
It is quite hard to have an untouchable savings since I am an active investors, sure I have untouched savings but the moment that is to be touched and use when I hit the needed amount for my planned investment.

For a person that is earning just almost enough for family budgets, it is quite hard to save, we really need to budget things accordingly and avoid expenses that is unnecessary.  The better approach is to take side jobs which can earn us more and enable us have the luxury of having an untouchable savings.
sr. member
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February 09, 2023, 05:31:09 PM
#34
My story is rather uninteresting, but let me know yours. Does this idea also apply to you? You could have the money to buy a new car to replace your old and broken one but you prefer not to touch it. Do you hold yourself from spending what you have to the point of depriving yourself of what you deserve? Do you keep significant savings for occasions that might only happen in your imagination? Or at what point would you allow yourself to be drained of your last penny?
I could say that im a bit different on which i would be having the mindset is that on what im really working for? on where or which i do save up? Its understandable or something really that in default on having a

savings but making yourself limiting into things that you do want then you arent really living your life to the fullest because you are worrying on something.Its true and it isnt bad to be prepared via having those
savings in preparation or in accumulation but it cant really be just denied out that excessive savings could lead up on unhappy life considering that you are depriving yourself on buying
on what you do really like to have or its impossible that we dont have any wishlist or something.
hero member
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February 09, 2023, 05:20:43 PM
#33
Untouchable Saving is a sort of preparation for whatever happens to us like for emergencies and many people are doing this. It is actually we can do this if we wanted to do it and have a plan but in your case OP, I don't think we need to sacrifice our health just to spend less and save some money because it might lead to huge expenses if our health got compromised. We can do savings in the other way, what I did before is to walk from school to our house to save my fair and keep it.

Savings is good but we are also affected by the inflations. It was better to save less but invest more.

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