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Nobody will pay even a bit of attention to anything he says.

Trump Endorses Israeli Land Theft, Opposes Palestinian Statehood







Read more at http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Article/199280-2016-06-25-trump-endorses-israeli-land-theft-opposes-palestinian-statehood.htm.

Agreed that people shouldn't be looking for leaders. But the system isn't changing anytime soon. And not everyone can move to belize either. For now an alternative to voting trump or hillary could be gary johnson. I know third parties haven't done well in america in a long time. But he wasn't doing too bad in the polls. 12%. With 15% he would be included in the debates. I don't agree with a lot he says. But it could be good to have a more libertarian perspective presented to people.

Wow.  We agree 100% here.   

Mwahahahahahaha!!!!!

What? Do you need me to do your research for you? Crawl back under your rock.

Google "Trump contradiction list" for starters. Near top on the list are:

Donald Trump’s Greatest Self-Contradictions - http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/05/donald-trump-2016-contradictions-213869 .

All statements involving Donald Trump - http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/ .

Stephen Colbert's All-Trump Debate Shows Just How Often Trump Contradicts Himself - http://digg.com/video/colbert-trump-debate .

And that's only 3 of at least dozens.

So, now you are going to tell me that those are simply honest mistakes that Trump made, and therefore not lies? Look up the dictionary definition of "lie." Even though most of it is outside of simple mistakes, some of the definition simply says that a simple falsehood is a lie.

Further, when you are running for President, and you don't take the time to be accurate, this means that your whole campaign is a lie.

Wake up.

I am hoping and wishing that Trump becomes the next president, I think he will be good for all, and hope to see good relations with every country he goes to visit.

My only reservation, is that the wrong people will advise him to be a cop out with foreign policy.
You know the type, the warmongers in Washington, but I can only see Clinton doing all the really bad stuff.

Trump deserves his chance, as no other contender comes close, not one.

Wahou, seems like we can agree on something xD

No, you have not shown that "Trump lies," with some allegation of "BS he talks about."

We all know that Hillary lies. We know it from her lying to Congress about the emails.

We know that Trump lies. Just look at all the BS he talks about all the time.

Get it through your heads. Government leaders are a bunch of lying, scheming bastards. Look what Hillary did in Benghazi.

The point is, if you are honest, you will wash your hands of everything pertaining to government. But if you want the best peace, you will vote for Hillary. Why? Trump is making waves with all kinds of things that have not been attempted yet. Hillary is attempting to carry on with what has been working - barely.

If you want a big fat mess, vote Trump.

If you want the status quo to continue for awhile longer, vote Hillary.

Both are doomed. Vote Trump for the mess not to be as bad, but to come quickly.

Vote Hillary for the mess to take longer to get here, but for it to be worse when it does get here.

Be an honest person and don't vote at all. Rather, move to Belize.

Washington DC, the District of Criminals. 

That's who we should / would leave.

No - thats not quite true. Is the UK the US's lapdog ? Yes. Has been for a long time - in or out of the EU. But have you ever considered that the EU itself might be the lapdog of the US ?

Reason I visited this thread (and I try not to visit Wilikons threads if I can help it) is to pass comment on Trumps comments today on the Brexit.
I personally voted Leave. And so it was with some surprise that when the journalists today tried to coax out of Trump a controversial remark about the referendum/Cameron/the leave vote, he merely chose to comment that the result was a good thing because it meant that the UK had taken back control of its own country - and that it would in no way alter the good relationship between the US and the UK.

I don't think he was bullshitting or riding the wave neither, I think he meant it. This is to his credit.

Seems like he would like the citizens of the US to take this kind of initiative also - but who are they going to leave ?

 

According to one ignorant person.

The Peasants Are Revolting – Disconnected Political Institutions Meet Their Monster Voters…




To say the last 24 hours have been historic could most certainly be an understatement.  However, we can be certain a wounded global media will put every possible liberal, progressive, multicultural and socialist voice onto television and into print to push back against the visible rise of a growing nationalist sentiment.







What has happened with the U.K. referendum is going to send reverberations around the globe; but this outcome should not come as a complete surprise to most CTH readers. What happened in Great Britain is the visible rise of their national Monster Vote.

People from across political parties, conservative (Tory) and democrat (Labour), joined together to unite against the institutional political systems (EU) who construct the rules of their lives without the consent of the governed.

When you recognize the bipartisan nature of the Brexit coalition, you remove the political shroud and begin to get down to brass tacks.


This same structural defect, born of self-centered political Oligarchs, exists in the U.S. political system and we call it the UniParty.

Progressive leaders from both Democrat and Republican parties working in concert to deliver the legislative priorities of the group who funds them, Wall Street.

The representative image of the sentiment behind the U.K. LEAVE campaign exists in the United States in the presidential candidate Donald Trump.  Trump supporters are essentially anti-globalists, much like the U.K. nationalists were/are anti-European Union.

Almost identical issues confront both electorates: Trade, Immigration, and the demand for a representative political voice that looks out for their best interest.  The EU is essentially a bureaucratic open-border political system, where they consider themselves the enlightened ones – and the citizenry of the various EU nations represent pawns to be governed by the elitists’ magnanimity.

You can just as easily transpose the mind-set within Brussels as an overlay of the same disconnected political outlook seen in Washington DC.  Two bureaucracies governing despite the will of the electorate, not on their behalf.

And make no mistake in the analogy, the overarching globalist views of the political elites within the EU and within Washington DC are essentially the same.







The uprising against this political outlook cuts across both parties in the U.S. just like it did within the U.K.

Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump supporters have a commonality in the identification of the problem, the divergence is within the solution. When this aspect is understood, we begin to see the possibility of, and attraction to, cross-party voters who support Donald Trump.

It’s the system, the institutional political system, that is fundamentally flawed.

Almost no-one within the system has the capability to deconstruct the problems because they are systemic and structural.   This structural issue is easily represented by the opposition to Donald Trump found within both the Democrat and Republican parties.  This structural issue is what also binds the largest potential voting block, the Monster Vote.

Against the overwhelming scope of the unified affiliation, the progressive media are forced to work overtime in their attempts to prop-up the corporate interests attached to the political body.  This is why the media predictions are also disconnected from the outcomes.





In an effort to retain relevance, the mainstream corporate media is forced to “gaslight” their audience with increasingly transparent falsehoods, manipulation, willful blindness and intentional deception.  However, there are ongoing signs surfacing which show the scope of the American common sense electorate.

There simply are more of us than them and there’s only so much the media can continue to do to try and hide that reality.  In addition we are tuned in to the schemes and techniques used to manufacture the Potemkin village they seek to build around us.

Often people ask what they can do to help further the awakening electorate.  One of the most important activities is to learn to spot the gaslighting efforts, spot the deception, and then teach your friends and family if they fall victim.

If we are going to defeat the Globalists we must give our team the tools to see through media propaganda. Simultaneously, we must make a conscious effort to keep a positive outlook and boost the morale of those around us.
….In short, we must train minds and support hearts.





https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/06/24/the-peasants-are-revolting-disconnected-political-institutions-meet-their-monster-voters/#more-117897



 

Seems like USA won this one. UK had the choice between becoming USA good little dog and staying in EU, they chose!
It doesn't change a lot of things in the end but that's a sad day to see a strong independant country completely accepting its slavery towards USA :/

And anti gun and pro gov and pro open borders, according to the video...

Johnson is pulling votes as much from Hillary as from Trump.

He left the GOP because they treated him like Ron Paul because he is pro-marijuana and against wars/crony capitalism.

Gary Johnson is just a puppet created by Hitlery, to steal votes from Trump supporters. He is closely linked to the establishment wing of the GOP. If you remember, he was the governor of New Mexico from 1995 to 2003, and at that point of time, he was solidly affiliated with the GOP. He was expelled from the GOP for his dubious political deals with the Democrats.

Gary Johnson is Not A Libertarian, And We're Under Attack By Zealots, So I Will Support Donald Trump