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June 17, 2016, 05:25:44 PM
Hey, Mr. Trump: Confronting Homegrown US Problems Is First Step to Making America Great Again





Hillary Clinton Plays Trump Perfectly As GOP Nominee Flip Flops On Terror Watch List Gun Ban … Hillary Clinton is perfectly pulling Trump's strings as presumptive GOP nominee announced that he is flip-flopping and now supporting a bill that would prohibit people on the terror watch list from legally buying guns.  – Politico

According to this Politico article, Donald Trump has decided to support a bill that prohibits individuals on the terror watch list from buying guns.

Politico suggests that Trump has "flip-flopped" because Hillary is already supporting the bill, which  70 percent of the public also apparently endorse.

Trump:
I will be meeting with the NRA, who has endorsed me, about not allowing people on the terrorist watch list, or the no fly list, to buy guns.

Politico suggests that the NRA will not support Trump's new position and suggests that Trump has "confirm[ed] that he was lying to the NRA. Trump is not pro-gun. Trump is pro-Donald Trump."

Not so fast. Trump may have shifted his position, but critics believe that his new position is a "fake" one.

From the Huffington Post:

Anyone on a terror watchlist who tries to buy a gun should be thoroughly investigated by the FBI and the sale delayed while the investigation is ongoing….

That has been the position of Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX) and a majority of the U.S. Senate.

… Well, not really. The NRA-approved Cornyn amendment allows for just a 72-hour delay for investigation, and then the gun sale can go through even if the investigation isn't done.

So Trump is shifting his position but in a strategic way.

The article tells us that Cornyn's amendment has already failed, and that he guaranteed it would fail by demanding a restriction on federal funding to "sanctuary cities, or those who don't comply with federal immigration law."

The bill will include the same clause this time round. Thus, Trump is a willing supporter because it will fail again. The NRA apparently supports it as well and for the same reasons.

This all clever maneuvering, but  we've posted several articles now suggesting that Trump might actually be better off if he were forthright about the issues instead of positioning himself for political purposes.

Taking a position that people on an unconstitutional "terror watch" are guilty without a trial is probably unconstitutional itself.

In any event, the unconstitutional nature of the terror watch list, no fly list and other Homeland Security lists provide evidence that the fears of founders such as Thomas Jefferson have been realized.

Western governments have soured. More and more they are adversaries of their citizens rather than protectors.

Full honesty would involve explaining that the "war on terror" itself is a creation of Western intelligence agencies. Without an "enemy" to confront, the West's military industrial complex begins to run on empty.

And there are plenty of reports in the alternative 'Net media on how the FBI and other fedgov agencies seem in some sense to be enhancing or even arranging some of the "terror" attacks that have occurred.


Read more at http://www.thedailybell.com/news-analysis/hey-mr-trump-confronting-homegrown-us-problems-is-first-step-to-making-america-great-again/.


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Keep guessing dead media...

 Cheesy Grin Cheesy


legendary
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June 17, 2016, 05:06:51 PM
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Full honesty would involve explaining that the "war on terror" itself is a creation of Western intelligence agencies. Without an "enemy" to confront, the West's military industrial complex begins to run on empty.

And there are plenty of reports in the alternative 'Net media on how the FBI and other fedgov agencies seem in some sense to be enhancing or even arranging some of the "terror" attacks that have occurred.....

Bah.  With over 28000 terror attacks since 911, there's simply no need to invent them.  There are eager little jihaders all over.

www.thereligionofpeace.com

You don't seem to realize that a terrorist attack isn't any good for propaganda purposes unless it is done in just the right way at just the right time. That's why the 9/11 attack had to be an inside job.

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June 17, 2016, 03:19:53 PM
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Full honesty would involve explaining that the "war on terror" itself is a creation of Western intelligence agencies. Without an "enemy" to confront, the West's military industrial complex begins to run on empty.

And there are plenty of reports in the alternative 'Net media on how the FBI and other fedgov agencies seem in some sense to be enhancing or even arranging some of the "terror" attacks that have occurred.....

Bah.  With over 28000 terror attacks since 911, there's simply no need to invent them.  There are eager little jihaders all over.

www.thereligionofpeace.com
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June 17, 2016, 12:16:37 PM
Hey, Mr. Trump: Confronting Homegrown US Problems Is First Step to Making America Great Again





Hillary Clinton Plays Trump Perfectly As GOP Nominee Flip Flops On Terror Watch List Gun Ban … Hillary Clinton is perfectly pulling Trump's strings as presumptive GOP nominee announced that he is flip-flopping and now supporting a bill that would prohibit people on the terror watch list from legally buying guns.  – Politico

According to this Politico article, Donald Trump has decided to support a bill that prohibits individuals on the terror watch list from buying guns.

Politico suggests that Trump has "flip-flopped" because Hillary is already supporting the bill, which  70 percent of the public also apparently endorse.

Trump:
I will be meeting with the NRA, who has endorsed me, about not allowing people on the terrorist watch list, or the no fly list, to buy guns.

Politico suggests that the NRA will not support Trump's new position and suggests that Trump has "confirm[ed] that he was lying to the NRA. Trump is not pro-gun. Trump is pro-Donald Trump."

Not so fast. Trump may have shifted his position, but critics believe that his new position is a "fake" one.

From the Huffington Post:

Anyone on a terror watchlist who tries to buy a gun should be thoroughly investigated by the FBI and the sale delayed while the investigation is ongoing….

That has been the position of Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX) and a majority of the U.S. Senate.

… Well, not really. The NRA-approved Cornyn amendment allows for just a 72-hour delay for investigation, and then the gun sale can go through even if the investigation isn't done.

So Trump is shifting his position but in a strategic way.

The article tells us that Cornyn's amendment has already failed, and that he guaranteed it would fail by demanding a restriction on federal funding to "sanctuary cities, or those who don't comply with federal immigration law."

The bill will include the same clause this time round. Thus, Trump is a willing supporter because it will fail again. The NRA apparently supports it as well and for the same reasons.

This all clever maneuvering, but  we've posted several articles now suggesting that Trump might actually be better off if he were forthright about the issues instead of positioning himself for political purposes.

Taking a position that people on an unconstitutional "terror watch" are guilty without a trial is probably unconstitutional itself.

In any event, the unconstitutional nature of the terror watch list, no fly list and other Homeland Security lists provide evidence that the fears of founders such as Thomas Jefferson have been realized.

Western governments have soured. More and more they are adversaries of their citizens rather than protectors.

Full honesty would involve explaining that the "war on terror" itself is a creation of Western intelligence agencies. Without an "enemy" to confront, the West's military industrial complex begins to run on empty.

And there are plenty of reports in the alternative 'Net media on how the FBI and other fedgov agencies seem in some sense to be enhancing or even arranging some of the "terror" attacks that have occurred.


Read more at http://www.thedailybell.com/news-analysis/hey-mr-trump-confronting-homegrown-us-problems-is-first-step-to-making-america-great-again/.


Cool
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June 17, 2016, 11:52:14 AM



Asians for Trump: Andy Nguyen Speaks at Donald Trump Rally in Dallas, TX












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June 15, 2016, 05:50:00 PM
But who in the list of donors is donating to Trump, he did say he was not accepting did he not?


This will be easy to verify in a few days....


Now I understand how the US media works:











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June 15, 2016, 05:42:18 PM
But who in the list of donors is donating to Trump, he did say he was not accepting did he not?
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June 15, 2016, 05:37:46 PM



Could it be the DNC leaked it themselves? I mean democrats are famous for very strong email firewalls...

 Roll Eyes




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Worldwide known cyber security company CrowdStrike announced that the Democratic National Committee (DNC) servers had been hacked by “sophisticated” hacker groups.

I’m very pleased the company appreciated my skills so highly))) But in fact, it was easy, very easy.

Guccifer may have been the first one who penetrated Hillary Clinton’s and other Democrats’ mail servers. But he certainly wasn’t the last. No wonder any other hacker could easily get access to the DNC’s servers.

Shame on CrowdStrike: Do you think I’ve been in the DNC’s networks for almost a year and saved only 2 documents? Do you really believe it?

Here are just a few docs from many thousands I extracted when hacking into DNC’s network.

They mentioned a leaked database on Donald Trump. Did they mean this one?

https://guccifer2.wordpress.com/2016/06/15/dnc/



DNC chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz said no financial documents were compromised. Nonsense! Just look through the Democratic Party lists of donors!



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June 15, 2016, 05:32:23 PM



Could it be the DNC leaked it themselves? I mean democrats are famous for very strong email firewalls...

 Roll Eyes




Quote
Worldwide known cyber security company CrowdStrike announced that the Democratic National Committee (DNC) servers had been hacked by “sophisticated” hacker groups.

I’m very pleased the company appreciated my skills so highly))) But in fact, it was easy, very easy.

Guccifer may have been the first one who penetrated Hillary Clinton’s and other Democrats’ mail servers. But he certainly wasn’t the last. No wonder any other hacker could easily get access to the DNC’s servers.

Shame on CrowdStrike: Do you think I’ve been in the DNC’s networks for almost a year and saved only 2 documents? Do you really believe it?

Here are just a few docs from many thousands I extracted when hacking into DNC’s network.

They mentioned a leaked database on Donald Trump. Did they mean this one?

https://guccifer2.wordpress.com/2016/06/15/dnc/
legendary
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June 15, 2016, 05:24:26 PM
Blame game on Russia again, tut tut.

Hmmm...don't know why I fell for that. Prolly because I don't care that much about who did it. Tongue
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June 15, 2016, 05:19:51 PM



Could it be the DNC leaked it themselves? I mean democrats are famous for very strong email firewalls...

 Roll Eyes


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June 15, 2016, 05:13:22 PM





Russian government hackers penetrated the computer network of the Democratic National Committee and gained access to the entire database of opposition research on GOP presidential candidate Donald Trump, according to committee officials and security experts who responded to the breach.

The intruders so thoroughly compromised the DNC’s system that they also were able to read all email and chat traffic, said DNC officials and the security experts.

The intrusion into the DNC was one of several targeting American political organizations. The networks of presidential candidates Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump were also targeted by Russian spies, as were the computers of some GOP political action committees, U.S. officials said. But details on those cases were not available.

A Russian Embassy spokesman said he had no knowledge of such intrusions.

Some of the hackers had access to the DNC network for about a year, but all were expelled over the past weekend in a major computer cleanup campaign, the committee officials and experts said.

The DNC said that no financial, donor or personal information appears to have been accessed or taken, suggesting that the breach was traditional espionage, not the work of criminal hackers.

The intrusions are an example of Russia’s interest in the U.S. political system and its desire to understand the policies, strengths and weaknesses of a potential future president — much as American spies gather similar information on foreign candidates and leaders.

The depth of the penetration reflects the skill and determination of the United States’ top cyber adversary as Russia goes after strategic targets, from the White House and State Department to political campaign organizations.


“It’s the job of every foreign intelligence service to collect intelligence against their adversaries,” said Shawn Henry, president of CrowdStrike, the cyber firm called in to handle the DNC breach and a former head of the FBI’s cyber division. He noted that it is extremely difficult for a civilian organization to protect itself from a skilled and determined state such as Russia.

“We’re perceived as an adversary of Russia,” he said. “Their job when they wake up every day is to gather intelligence against the policies, practices and strategies of the U.S. government. There are a variety of ways. [Hacking] is one of the more valuable because it gives you a treasure trove of information.”

Russian President Vladimir Putin has spoken favorably about Trump, who has called for better relations with Russia and expressed skepticism about NATO. But unlike Clinton, whom the Russians probably have long had in their spy sights, Trump has not been a politician for very long, so foreign agencies are playing catch-up, analysts say.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/russian-government-hackers-penetrated-dnc-stole-opposition-research-on-trump/2016/06/14/cf006cb4-316e-11e6-8ff7-7b6c1998b7a0_story.html






Blame game on Russia again, tut tut.

Any hacker that is worth his salt, can hide behind multiple IPs, lot of hacker use Russian ones, even today I was using a diff IP, as my provider does not like me using a certain file sharing site.
I was downloading from Germany  Cheesy but if I was hacking from Germany, they would get the blame.
So I knew this news was suspect from the very start, incompetent even.

DNC Hacker Releases Trump Oppo Report
"Guccifer 2.0" claims credit for breaching party's networks


http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/crime/dnc-hacker-leaks-trump-oppo-report-647293
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June 15, 2016, 09:02:56 AM
Trump seems to be getting quite popular outside the United States as well. Hindu Sena celebrates the birth day of Donald Trump in New Delhi, India:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4ma7t9DmvI



http://qz.com/706357/at-donald-trumps-birthday-party-in-india-the-journalists-outnumbered-fans/

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Little-known right wing group Hindu Sena on Tuesday celebrated US Republican party candidate Donald Trump’s birthday at Jantar Mantar in the national capital. With a birthday cake, balloons and posters — including one showing Trump brandishing a gun,  the group celebrated Trump’s birthday. The Hindu Sena called Trump the ‘saviour of humanity’ and the ‘messiah against Islamic terror’.


Yep.

 Smiley

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June 14, 2016, 11:17:18 PM
Trump seems to be getting quite popular outside the United States as well. Hindu Sena celebrates the birth day of Donald Trump in New Delhi, India:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4ma7t9DmvI



http://qz.com/706357/at-donald-trumps-birthday-party-in-india-the-journalists-outnumbered-fans/

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Little-known right wing group Hindu Sena on Tuesday celebrated US Republican party candidate Donald Trump’s birthday at Jantar Mantar in the national capital. With a birthday cake, balloons and posters — including one showing Trump brandishing a gun,  the group celebrated Trump’s birthday. The Hindu Sena called Trump the ‘saviour of humanity’ and the ‘messiah against Islamic terror’.
legendary
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June 14, 2016, 11:22:47 AM
Dont you feel ashamed to publicly support ISIS and censorship of free speech?
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June 14, 2016, 11:21:58 AM
I don't like politics and I don't vote or take sides but I came across this article earlier and I'd be curious to know what you Trump supporters make of it

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jun/14/donald-trump-bans-washington-post-from-officially-covering-his-campaign

Whatever happened to free speech? So now it's about snuffing out anything that's not holy? If so then where does it end?
I know what my questions sound like but believe it or not, I think his move is perfectly okay. I just want to hear what you guys have to say.
What I think is banning the WP reporters from his events hurts the WP economically.  And that's the way to hurt a media organization.

Censorship and muslim apologist.

Thats what muslim dictators say: We dont censor anything we just dont invite the free press to our land.

 Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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June 14, 2016, 11:21:05 AM





Russian government hackers penetrated the computer network of the Democratic National Committee and gained access to the entire database of opposition research on GOP presidential candidate Donald Trump, according to committee officials and security experts who responded to the breach.

The intruders so thoroughly compromised the DNC’s system that they also were able to read all email and chat traffic, said DNC officials and the security experts.

The intrusion into the DNC was one of several targeting American political organizations. The networks of presidential candidates Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump were also targeted by Russian spies, as were the computers of some GOP political action committees, U.S. officials said. But details on those cases were not available.

A Russian Embassy spokesman said he had no knowledge of such intrusions.

Some of the hackers had access to the DNC network for about a year, but all were expelled over the past weekend in a major computer cleanup campaign, the committee officials and experts said.

The DNC said that no financial, donor or personal information appears to have been accessed or taken, suggesting that the breach was traditional espionage, not the work of criminal hackers.

The intrusions are an example of Russia’s interest in the U.S. political system and its desire to understand the policies, strengths and weaknesses of a potential future president — much as American spies gather similar information on foreign candidates and leaders.

The depth of the penetration reflects the skill and determination of the United States’ top cyber adversary as Russia goes after strategic targets, from the White House and State Department to political campaign organizations.


“It’s the job of every foreign intelligence service to collect intelligence against their adversaries,” said Shawn Henry, president of CrowdStrike, the cyber firm called in to handle the DNC breach and a former head of the FBI’s cyber division. He noted that it is extremely difficult for a civilian organization to protect itself from a skilled and determined state such as Russia.

“We’re perceived as an adversary of Russia,” he said. “Their job when they wake up every day is to gather intelligence against the policies, practices and strategies of the U.S. government. There are a variety of ways. [Hacking] is one of the more valuable because it gives you a treasure trove of information.”

Russian President Vladimir Putin has spoken favorably about Trump, who has called for better relations with Russia and expressed skepticism about NATO. But unlike Clinton, whom the Russians probably have long had in their spy sights, Trump has not been a politician for very long, so foreign agencies are playing catch-up, analysts say.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/russian-government-hackers-penetrated-dnc-stole-opposition-research-on-trump/2016/06/14/cf006cb4-316e-11e6-8ff7-7b6c1998b7a0_story.html



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June 14, 2016, 11:11:51 AM
I don't like politics and I don't vote or take sides but I came across this article earlier and I'd be curious to know what you Trump supporters make of it

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jun/14/donald-trump-bans-washington-post-from-officially-covering-his-campaign

Whatever happened to free speech? So now it's about snuffing out anything that's not holy? If so then where does it end?
I know what my questions sound like but believe it or not, I think his move is perfectly okay. I just want to hear what you guys have to say.
What I think is banning the WP reporters from his events hurts the WP economically.  And that's the way to hurt a media organization.


The Amazon Post. Bezos is a big harpy clinton supporter.



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