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June 07, 2016, 12:11:53 PM
I think another candidate will jump in at the last minute. Am I alone in that feeling?
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legendary
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June 07, 2016, 07:48:30 AM
Thanks for the videos but of course the financial and the militar sides are well connected.
Don't misunderstand me but China is doing what the USA are doing since they started living. Why are they not allowed to do that?

I know China is playing with fire but this is politics, unfortunately.

The following is a reference only
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_the_United_States


Is this map describing "politics as usual"?


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I am not saying China is acting in a wise or forward-looking way, I am only stating the fact and I really don't know which state to fear the most between China and U.S.A. They scare me likewise.
This is my point all along and that's why I said previously that I see no difference in Trump or Hillary: they represent the same two faced coin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDrfE9I8_hs

He is really addicted to China! Is he afraid of China buying loads of gold, silver and oil with paper dollars thus reducing their link with the U.S.A. (financially speaking)?
Crazy about China

He is telling the truth. China is using slave labor from North Korea to produce ultra-cheap electronics and textiles, and then they dump these products into the United States and the European Union. The locally made products can't compete with them, and millions of Americans are being made jobless. Time has come to end this madness.

I understand what you mean but please tell the other dark side of the moon. You should know better than me how the U.S. spoiled the third world (and conquered the other two worlds) lately.


Americans Europeans Push Back Against Beijing in the South China Sea

June 6, 2016.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2016/06/06/europeans-push-back-against-beijing-in-the-south-china-sea/


legendary
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June 07, 2016, 01:20:38 AM
Thanks for the videos but of course the financial and the militar sides are well connected.
Don't misunderstand me but China is doing what the USA are doing since they started living. Why are they not allowed to do that?

I know China is playing with fire but this is politics, unfortunately.

The following is a reference only
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_the_United_States


Is this map describing "politics as usual"?


snip


I am not saying China is acting in a wise or forward-looking way, I am only stating the fact and I really don't know which state to fear the most between China and U.S.A. They scare me likewise.
This is my point all along and that's why I said previously that I see no difference in Trump or Hillary: they represent the same two faced coin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDrfE9I8_hs

He is really addicted to China! Is he afraid of China buying loads of gold, silver and oil with paper dollars thus reducing their link with the U.S.A. (financially speaking)?
Crazy about China

He is telling the truth. China is using slave labor from North Korea to produce ultra-cheap electronics and textiles, and then they dump these products into the United States and the European Union. The locally made products can't compete with them, and millions of Americans are being made jobless. Time has come to end this madness.

I understand what you mean but please tell the other dark side of the moon. You should know better than me how the U.S. spoiled the third world (and conquered the other two worlds) lately.
legendary
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June 07, 2016, 12:50:56 AM
Trump is finally a candidate that is America first. The mere thought of a president that won't sell out America is throwing the political elite into a tailspin. Moreover, simple demographics with the never ending refuge/ illegal alien invasion says this will be the last chance to right the ship.

I think that it is already too late. Just around 45% of the newborns are non-Hispanic whites, and that number is declining every year. Within a generation, the United States will be majority non-white, be it Mexican, Black, or Asian. The living standards will nosedive, and the majority of the population will be living off welfare payments.
legendary
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June 06, 2016, 11:14:53 PM
Well, I'm not a Democrat & not interested in 2-party propaganda.

You make a good point, though, @Spendulus, and I have to admit, Gore rolled over like a puppy without a fight.

I understand.  I just think we don't advance anything by mindlessly repeating the propaganda of the past that was couched in the two party right or wrong, good vs evil.  So like to me it's just an issue to examine.   Did he steal the election, facts, examine, yes/no/maybe.  Thats all.
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Tip of iceberg: Google. https://www.google.com/?ion=1&espv=2#q=bush+stole+election

I'm sure I could google the opposite side, however, with equally convincing results.  Smiley
legendary
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June 06, 2016, 11:08:09 PM
Well, I'm not a Democrat & not interested in 2-party propaganda.

You make a good point, though, @Spendulus, and I have to admit, Gore rolled over like a puppy without a fight.

I understand.  I just think we don't advance anything by mindlessly repeating the propaganda of the past that was couched in the two party right or wrong, good vs evil.  So like to me it's just an issue to examine.   Did he steal the election, facts, examine, yes/no/maybe.  Thats all.
legendary
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June 06, 2016, 10:35:14 PM
Trump is finally a candidate that is America first. The mere thought of a president that won't sell out America is throwing the political elite into a tailspin. Moreover, simple demographics with the never ending refuge/ illegal alien invasion says this will be the last chance to right the ship.

Even so, he will have to pick a VP running mate absolutely stinking of politics, if he wants to win this thing.
legendary
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June 06, 2016, 09:51:22 PM
Exactly.

Jeb Bush (Florida Gov., with FLA Supreme Court,) helped DUH-Bull-You (George W.) steal the election from Al Gore in 2000.

I was quite peeved about this theft when it happened and afterward.  ....


It always seemed to me that if "Bush stole it," Gore should have won at LEAST ONE of the recounts.  But he didn't.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_election_recount

The Florida vote was ultimately settled in favor of George W. Bush, by a margin of only 537 votes out of almost 6 million cast, when the U.S. Supreme Court, with its final ruling on Bush v. Gore, stopped a recount that had been proposed by the Florida Supreme Court. The outcome of the original vote count, and all subsequent recounts resulted in Bush winning Florida, which in turn, gave Bush a majority of votes in the Electoral College, winning the overall presidential election.[1]

The only reason Bush won was that votes are private and anonymous. If Gore could have introduced even one person to the Supreme Court who could have assured the Court that such and such a vote was his, the whole thing would have had to have been done over. Gore simply wasn't clever enough to find one good liar who would acknowledge one vote as his own.

Cool
That paragraph you wrote makes no sense.  

My comment was a critique on the statement that "Bush stole the election."  I seriously think that if that was the case, there should be some evidence for it, not just the assertion.  Of course, the assertion, repeated over and over for decades, will serve a propaganda purpose for the Democrats.  For this goal truth is not a requirement.



You simply haven't realized yet, that voting and vote counts are political, and in the realm of "paperwork." A man, standing in his human capacity as a man, and stating a fact that nobody can controvert, is stronger than politics and paperwork and codes, and even in many cases, the law.

Well who would get up and state for a fact, on oath, on first hand knowledge, that the man was lying, especially if he wasn't?

Cool
legendary
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June 06, 2016, 09:31:34 PM
Well, I'm not a Democrat & not interested in 2-party propaganda.

You make a good point, though, @Spendulus, and I have to admit, Gore rolled over like a puppy without a fight.
legendary
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June 06, 2016, 09:19:56 PM
Exactly.

Jeb Bush (Florida Gov., with FLA Supreme Court,) helped DUH-Bull-You (George W.) steal the election from Al Gore in 2000.

I was quite peeved about this theft when it happened and afterward.  ....


It always seemed to me that if "Bush stole it," Gore should have won at LEAST ONE of the recounts.  But he didn't.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_election_recount

The Florida vote was ultimately settled in favor of George W. Bush, by a margin of only 537 votes out of almost 6 million cast, when the U.S. Supreme Court, with its final ruling on Bush v. Gore, stopped a recount that had been proposed by the Florida Supreme Court. The outcome of the original vote count, and all subsequent recounts resulted in Bush winning Florida, which in turn, gave Bush a majority of votes in the Electoral College, winning the overall presidential election.[1]

The only reason Bush won was that votes are private and anonymous. If Gore could have introduced even one person to the Supreme Court who could have assured the Court that such and such a vote was his, the whole thing would have had to have been done over. Gore simply wasn't clever enough to find one good liar who would acknowledge one vote as his own.

Cool
That paragraph you wrote makes no sense.  

My comment was a critique on the statement that "Bush stole the election."  I seriously think that if that was the case, there should be some evidence for it, not just the assertion.  Of course, the assertion, repeated over and over for decades, will serve a propaganda purpose for the Democrats.  For this goal truth is not a requirement.

legendary
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June 06, 2016, 08:43:59 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDrfE9I8_hs

He is really addicted to China! Is he afraid of China buying loads of gold, silver and oil with paper dollars thus reducing their link with the U.S.A. (financially speaking)?
Crazy about China

He is telling the truth. China is using slave labor from North Korea to produce ultra-cheap electronics and textiles, and then they dump these products into the United States and the European Union. The locally made products can't compete with them, and millions of Americans are being made jobless. Time has come to end this madness.
legendary
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June 06, 2016, 05:50:17 PM
Thanks for the videos but of course the financial and the militar sides are well connected.
Don't misunderstand me but China is doing what the USA are doing since they started living. Why are they not allowed to do that?

I know China is playing with fire but this is politics, unfortunately.

The following is a reference only
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_the_United_States


Is this map describing "politics as usual"?






legendary
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June 06, 2016, 04:12:47 PM
Thanks for the videos but of course the financial and the militar sides are well connected.
Don't misunderstand me but China is doing what the USA are doing since they started living. Why are they not allowed to do that?

I know China is playing with fire but this is politics, unfortunately.

The following is a reference only
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_the_United_States
legendary
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Merit: 1001
minds.com/Wilikon
June 06, 2016, 01:04:53 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDrfE9I8_hs

He is really addicted to China! Is he afraid of China buying loads of gold, silver and oil with paper dollars thus reducing their link with the U.S.A. (financially speaking)?
Crazy about China


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8qo3h50OHc



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVH68ysyIv0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YPFGRkI4XQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZWJAlwGALQ

China is not addicted to power...
 Roll Eyes


legendary
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June 06, 2016, 10:36:52 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDrfE9I8_hs

He is really addicted to China! Is he afraid of China buying loads of gold, silver and oil with paper dollars thus reducing their link with the U.S.A. (financially speaking)?
Crazy about China
legendary
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June 06, 2016, 09:38:06 AM
You think draft-dodging donald is the answer or the problem?

Chicken donald will end up being worse than dubya.

Hillbill doesn't seem much better.

Anyone voting for the libertarian party?

I voted for Gary Johnson in the first election I could participate in, but I was young and naive then, coming fresh off the (modern) liberal hoopla boat, still harboring enthusiasm for the impractical. This time, I'm still rather agorist, but I came to see that maybe I can get that, but I have to work in baby steps getting there, and Trump has a greater-than-decent chance, more than most anyone else as evidenced by his effecting so far in American politics and society, at being a great transitional leader towards this aim of mine (freedom).
legendary
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June 06, 2016, 08:32:01 AM
Exactly.

Jeb Bush (Florida Gov., with FLA Supreme Court,) helped DUH-Bull-You (George W.) steal the election from Al Gore in 2000.

I was quite peeved about this theft when it happened and afterward.  ....


It always seemed to me that if "Bush stole it," Gore should have won at LEAST ONE of the recounts.  But he didn't.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_election_recount

The Florida vote was ultimately settled in favor of George W. Bush, by a margin of only 537 votes out of almost 6 million cast, when the U.S. Supreme Court, with its final ruling on Bush v. Gore, stopped a recount that had been proposed by the Florida Supreme Court. The outcome of the original vote count, and all subsequent recounts resulted in Bush winning Florida, which in turn, gave Bush a majority of votes in the Electoral College, winning the overall presidential election.[1]

The only reason Bush won was that votes are private and anonymous. If Gore could have introduced even one person to the Supreme Court who could have assured the Court that such and such a vote was his, the whole thing would have had to have been done over. Gore simply wasn't clever enough to find one good liar who would acknowledge one vote as his own.

Cool
legendary
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June 06, 2016, 06:43:31 AM
Exactly.

Jeb Bush (Florida Gov., with FLA Supreme Court,) helped DUH-Bull-You (George W.) steal the election from Al Gore in 2000.

I was quite peeved about this theft when it happened and afterward.  ....


It always seemed to me that if "Bush stole it," Gore should have won at LEAST ONE of the recounts.  But he didn't.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_election_recount

The Florida vote was ultimately settled in favor of George W. Bush, by a margin of only 537 votes out of almost 6 million cast, when the U.S. Supreme Court, with its final ruling on Bush v. Gore, stopped a recount that had been proposed by the Florida Supreme Court. The outcome of the original vote count, and all subsequent recounts resulted in Bush winning Florida, which in turn, gave Bush a majority of votes in the Electoral College, winning the overall presidential election.[1]
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June 06, 2016, 06:33:51 AM
You think draft-dodging donald is the answer or the problem?

Chicken donald will end up being worse than dubya.

Hillbill doesn't seem much better.

Anyone voting for the libertarian party?
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