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February 16, 2016, 10:50:36 AM


Voluntary contribution i.e. noncoercedly paying dues if you find it in your interests to do so.

Ok so how do you pay the army for example? You hire soldiers and you tell them "ok everyone, you might get paid if we have enough donations. If we don't well you'll have to eat your hands but we might get enough don't worry!"
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February 16, 2016, 10:43:13 AM
Actually, Trump, right along with all the other candidates, is a detriment to society. The only possible candidate that might have done anything good was Paul, when he was running. Why? Because none of the candidates except Paul have any thoughts about shutting down the taxation system, and the Federal Reserve Bank.

Taxation is legalized robbery. Robbery that is legalized is still robbery. This means that it is unlawful, even though it is legal.

If people want government to do something, they should be able to donate, and get a receipt that shows where their money went. It shouldn't be stolen from them to be used for things that they don't want done.

IN OTHER WORDS, as long as there is a taxation system, the rest of it doesn't matter. Political BS is all BS. Taxation rules no matter who wins. If there was a President who dissolved the Federal Reserve, and got rid of taxation while replacing it with a donation system, only then might the position of Presidency be useful.

Smiley

No tax... So you have no tax funded country right? Because without tax you have no tax funded election, no tax funded government, no tax funded military, no tax funded police, no tax funded schools, no tax funded hospitals... Nothing Voluntary everything.

FTFY

Cause you have a no tax funded government or military? If you don't pay them through tax how do you do then?

Voluntary contribution i.e. noncoercedly paying dues if you find it in your interests to do so.
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February 16, 2016, 10:41:58 AM
Actually, Trump, right along with all the other candidates, is a detriment to society. The only possible candidate that might have done anything good was Paul, when he was running. Why? Because none of the candidates except Paul have any thoughts about shutting down the taxation system, and the Federal Reserve Bank.

Taxation is legalized robbery. Robbery that is legalized is still robbery. This means that it is unlawful, even though it is legal.

If people want government to do something, they should be able to donate, and get a receipt that shows where their money went. It shouldn't be stolen from them to be used for things that they don't want done.

IN OTHER WORDS, as long as there is a taxation system, the rest of it doesn't matter. Political BS is all BS. Taxation rules no matter who wins. If there was a President who dissolved the Federal Reserve, and got rid of taxation while replacing it with a donation system, only then might the position of Presidency be useful.

Smiley

No tax... So you have no country right? Because without tax you have no election, no government, no military, no police, no schools, no hospitals... Nothing.

That is the way the system works now, taxation, I mean. If it were all donation, it would work just as well. Why? Because people donate to their favorite cause all the time.

The major difference in a donation system would be that we would have wiser people in government. Why? Because the wealthy are smart enough to determine who is wise. They would donate to people who had wise causes. And being wealthy, they could donate more.

If the poor were that smart, they would determine how to not be so poor. Since they are poor, it is evident that they are not so smart, because they are still poor. Yet they get their say in determining which candidate gets elected. That's why we often get foolish people elected to government. And it all revolves around taxation rather than donation.

Smiley

Oh my god you're really an American...
So being wealthy means being smart and wise??
So reasons why the children of rich people are most of the time always rich too is because they're wise? Not because they've been helped by their parents?

This is really incredible I wouldn't have thought people like you exists...

I suppose then you're incredibly rich? Or you're stupid?
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February 16, 2016, 10:37:13 AM
Actually, Trump, right along with all the other candidates, is a detriment to society. The only possible candidate that might have done anything good was Paul, when he was running. Why? Because none of the candidates except Paul have any thoughts about shutting down the taxation system, and the Federal Reserve Bank.

Taxation is legalized robbery. Robbery that is legalized is still robbery. This means that it is unlawful, even though it is legal.

If people want government to do something, they should be able to donate, and get a receipt that shows where their money went. It shouldn't be stolen from them to be used for things that they don't want done.

IN OTHER WORDS, as long as there is a taxation system, the rest of it doesn't matter. Political BS is all BS. Taxation rules no matter who wins. If there was a President who dissolved the Federal Reserve, and got rid of taxation while replacing it with a donation system, only then might the position of Presidency be useful.

Smiley

No tax... So you have no tax funded country right? Because without tax you have no tax funded election, no tax funded government, no tax funded military, no tax funded police, no tax funded schools, no tax funded hospitals... Nothing Voluntary everything.

FTFY

Cause you have a no tax funded government or military? If you don't pay them through tax how do you do then?
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February 16, 2016, 07:18:14 AM
Actually, Trump, right along with all the other candidates, is a detriment to society. The only possible candidate that might have done anything good was Paul, when he was running. Why? Because none of the candidates except Paul have any thoughts about shutting down the taxation system, and the Federal Reserve Bank.

Taxation is legalized robbery. Robbery that is legalized is still robbery. This means that it is unlawful, even though it is legal.

If people want government to do something, they should be able to donate, and get a receipt that shows where their money went. It shouldn't be stolen from them to be used for things that they don't want done.

IN OTHER WORDS, as long as there is a taxation system, the rest of it doesn't matter. Political BS is all BS. Taxation rules no matter who wins. If there was a President who dissolved the Federal Reserve, and got rid of taxation while replacing it with a donation system, only then might the position of Presidency be useful.

Smiley

No tax... So you have no country right? Because without tax you have no election, no government, no military, no police, no schools, no hospitals... Nothing.

That is the way the system works now, taxation, I mean. If it were all donation, it would work just as well. Why? Because people donate to their favorite cause all the time.

The major difference in a donation system would be that we would have wiser people in government. Why? Because the wealthy are smart enough to determine who is wise. They would donate to people who had wise causes. And being wealthy, they could donate more.

If the poor were that smart, they would determine how to not be so poor. Since they are poor, it is evident that they are not so smart, because they are still poor. Yet they get their say in determining which candidate gets elected. That's why we often get foolish people elected to government. And it all revolves around taxation rather than donation.

Smiley
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February 16, 2016, 07:00:23 AM
Actually, Trump, right along with all the other candidates, is a detriment to society. The only possible candidate that might have done anything good was Paul, when he was running. Why? Because none of the candidates except Paul have any thoughts about shutting down the taxation system, and the Federal Reserve Bank.

Taxation is legalized robbery. Robbery that is legalized is still robbery. This means that it is unlawful, even though it is legal.

If people want government to do something, they should be able to donate, and get a receipt that shows where their money went. It shouldn't be stolen from them to be used for things that they don't want done.

IN OTHER WORDS, as long as there is a taxation system, the rest of it doesn't matter. Political BS is all BS. Taxation rules no matter who wins. If there was a President who dissolved the Federal Reserve, and got rid of taxation while replacing it with a donation system, only then might the position of Presidency be useful.

Smiley

No tax... So you have no tax funded country right? Because without tax you have no tax funded election, no tax funded government, no tax funded military, no tax funded police, no tax funded schools, no tax funded hospitals... Nothing Voluntary everything.

FTFY
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February 16, 2016, 06:49:52 AM
Who came out as the winner in the SC debate?  Did anyone seem to come out ahead?

Seems Trump broke the golden rule of Republican politics and revealed that we were not entirely without blame when it comes to 9/11.

I have started to see the Facebook posts about "Trump blames America for 9/11!!!".

In South Carolina you need to talk up war and the military. The south is very pro-military and pro-war and very anti-logical when it comes to why people might hate the US.

So Trump got in trouble for telling the truth.  I think he's a little crazy and I'm not a supporter, but every once in a while he says things that make sense.
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February 16, 2016, 06:26:31 AM
Actually, Trump, right along with all the other candidates, is a detriment to society. The only possible candidate that might have done anything good was Paul, when he was running. Why? Because none of the candidates except Paul have any thoughts about shutting down the taxation system, and the Federal Reserve Bank.

Taxation is legalized robbery. Robbery that is legalized is still robbery. This means that it is unlawful, even though it is legal.

If people want government to do something, they should be able to donate, and get a receipt that shows where their money went. It shouldn't be stolen from them to be used for things that they don't want done.

IN OTHER WORDS, as long as there is a taxation system, the rest of it doesn't matter. Political BS is all BS. Taxation rules no matter who wins. If there was a President who dissolved the Federal Reserve, and got rid of taxation while replacing it with a donation system, only then might the position of Presidency be useful.

Smiley

No tax... So you have no country right? Because without tax you have no election, no government, no military, no police, no schools, no hospitals... Nothing.
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February 16, 2016, 05:21:09 AM
Bush Brothers Swipe at Donald Trump

NORTH CHARLESTON, S.C. — The Bush family, a dynasty that defined Republicanism for decades, clashed on Monday with the new and irreverent face of the party, Donald J. Trump, in one of the most vivid and powerful confrontations in the presidential primary campaign so far.

Jeb Bush, facing increasing pressure in South Carolina after lackluster showings in early contests, brought his older brother, George W. Bush, and the former first lady, Laura Bush, to vouch for his decency and judgment here in a race that has been driven in recent weeks by coarse language, anger and personal insults.

“There seems to be a lot of name-calling going on, but I want to remind you what our good dad told me one time — labels are for soup cans,” the former president told a crowd that the campaign estimated at 3,000 people at a civic center here. “The presidency is a serious job that requires sound judgment and good ideas, and there’s no doubt in my mind that Jeb Bush has the experience and the character to be a great president.”


http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/16/us/politics/bush-brothers-swipe-at-donald-trump.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0

When you have a couple of brothers whose grandfather was a big-time Hitler supporter, and you have a bunch of people who elect or want to elect the brothers as President, what does that tell you about the ignorance of the people?

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February 16, 2016, 05:17:27 AM
Actually, Trump, right along with all the other candidates, is a detriment to society. The only possible candidate that might have done anything good was Paul, when he was running. Why? Because none of the candidates except Paul have any thoughts about shutting down the taxation system, and the Federal Reserve Bank.

Rand Paul was leading with 14% to 15% of the vote almost an year ago, before Carson had a big spike. Unfortunately for Rand, he peaked too early. It was a disappointment, but he is very young and he will come back much stronger in 2020. If not 2020, then perhaps in 2024. Right now, I don't think that the Americans deserve Rand as their president. Too many of them are brainwashed and in favor of the establishment system.

we do not need Paul or anyone that is in politics already they are all corrupt.  This is the reason I lean towards Trump.  Anyone of them that has been a governor or anything in this country should not be elected.  We need a change in venue.  Get away from all the corrupt politicians.  

Also everyone is concerned about Trumps mouth and his profanity.  Almost everyone I know says shit, damn , and so on.  Who cares if he uses profanity.  We are all adults and not kids in 1st grade.

This is true.

The benefits of a government that does what is right would be more beneficial that no government.

Rather than dump the current government, Paul would convert it into something that is right in the best ways that he knows how. The others are not interested in straightening government out.

Paul would probably fail, but we don't know that for sure.

The people have the ability to change government entirely if they want... and almost on an individual basis, without using politics, but by using two two words in the courts, and by standing as a man/woman, unrepresented, in their own law suit outside of a government law suit, or o top of a government law suit. The two words are property and wronged.

The thing that is wrong with Trump is, he wants to keep the system and its corruption. He simply would attempt to maneuver things in a slightly different direction. He would fail, because Congress would overrule him in anything important.

Cool

EDIT: If people elected Paul by writing him in, he would probably accept.
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February 16, 2016, 05:14:11 AM
Bush Brothers Swipe at Donald Trump

NORTH CHARLESTON, S.C. — The Bush family, a dynasty that defined Republicanism for decades, clashed on Monday with the new and irreverent face of the party, Donald J. Trump, in one of the most vivid and powerful confrontations in the presidential primary campaign so far.

Jeb Bush, facing increasing pressure in South Carolina after lackluster showings in early contests, brought his older brother, George W. Bush, and the former first lady, Laura Bush, to vouch for his decency and judgment here in a race that has been driven in recent weeks by coarse language, anger and personal insults.

“There seems to be a lot of name-calling going on, but I want to remind you what our good dad told me one time — labels are for soup cans,” the former president told a crowd that the campaign estimated at 3,000 people at a civic center here. “The presidency is a serious job that requires sound judgment and good ideas, and there’s no doubt in my mind that Jeb Bush has the experience and the character to be a great president.”


http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/16/us/politics/bush-brothers-swipe-at-donald-trump.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0
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February 16, 2016, 04:48:08 AM
Who came out as the winner in the SC debate?  Did anyone seem to come out ahead?

Seems Trump broke the golden rule of Republican politics and revealed that we were not entirely without blame when it comes to 9/11.

I have started to see the Facebook posts about "Trump blames America for 9/11!!!".

In South Carolina you need to talk up war and the military. The south is very pro-military and pro-war and very anti-logical when it comes to why people might hate the US.
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February 15, 2016, 04:37:07 PM
Who came out as the winner in the SC debate?  Did anyone seem to come out ahead?
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February 15, 2016, 02:59:16 PM
Actually, Trump, right along with all the other candidates, is a detriment to society. The only possible candidate that might have done anything good was Paul, when he was running. Why? Because none of the candidates except Paul have any thoughts about shutting down the taxation system, and the Federal Reserve Bank.

Rand Paul was leading with 14% to 15% of the vote almost an year ago, before Carson had a big spike. Unfortunately for Rand, he peaked too early. It was a disappointment, but he is very young and he will come back much stronger in 2020. If not 2020, then perhaps in 2024. Right now, I don't think that the Americans deserve Rand as their president. Too many of them are brainwashed and in favor of the establishment system.

we do not need Paul or anyone that is in politics already they are all corrupt.  This is the reason I lean towards Trump.  Anyone of them that has been a governor or anything in this country should not be elected.  We need a change in venue.  Get away from all the corrupt politicians. 

Also everyone is concerned about Trumps mouth and his profanity.  Almost everyone I know says shit, damn , and so on.  Who cares if he uses profanity.  We are all adults and not kids in 1st grade.
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February 15, 2016, 01:16:12 PM
Actually, Trump, right along with all the other candidates, is a detriment to society. The only possible candidate that might have done anything good was Paul, when he was running. Why? Because none of the candidates except Paul have any thoughts about shutting down the taxation system, and the Federal Reserve Bank.

Rand Paul was leading with 14% to 15% of the vote almost an year ago, before Carson had a big spike. Unfortunately for Rand, he peaked too early. It was a disappointment, but he is very young and he will come back much stronger in 2020. If not 2020, then perhaps in 2024. Right now, I don't think that the Americans deserve Rand as their president. Too many of them are brainwashed and in favor of the establishment system.
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February 15, 2016, 10:07:36 AM
Actually, Trump, right along with all the other candidates, is a detriment to society. The only possible candidate that might have done anything good was Paul, when he was running. Why? Because none of the candidates except Paul have any thoughts about shutting down the taxation system, and the Federal Reserve Bank.

Taxation is legalized robbery. Robbery that is legalized is still robbery. This means that it is unlawful, even though it is legal.

If people want government to do something, they should be able to donate, and get a receipt that shows where their money went. It shouldn't be stolen from them to be used for things that they don't want done.

IN OTHER WORDS, as long as there is a taxation system, the rest of it doesn't matter. Political BS is all BS. Taxation rules no matter who wins. If there was a President who dissolved the Federal Reserve, and got rid of taxation while replacing it with a donation system, only then might the position of Presidency be useful.

Smiley
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February 15, 2016, 09:22:19 AM
I was expecting a small dip in the support levels for Trump. However, he seems to have increased it from 36% to 42%.

And I am glad to see the evangelicals turning to Trump. They form one of the core GOP voting blocs. Finally they are realizing that the establishment guys such as Rubio and Bush are having a secret plan to destroy the United States, through uncontrolled immigration.

Damned I forget that religion is actually a thing in USA xD
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February 14, 2016, 09:12:25 PM
I was expecting a small dip in the support levels for Trump. However, he seems to have increased it from 36% to 42%.

And I am glad to see the evangelicals turning to Trump. They form one of the core GOP voting blocs. Finally they are realizing that the establishment guys such as Rubio and Bush are having a secret plan to destroy the United States, through uncontrolled immigration.
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February 14, 2016, 07:05:23 PM
Flat Earth x Trump

Somehow it didnt surprise me lol
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February 14, 2016, 03:28:34 PM
The guy can over-sell a football stadium with his speeches all while giving the cold shoulder to the gals at Fox who really do appear to be reptilians in human disguise. I'm gonna call it at this point.
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