Topic: updated no bounty for pointing out logic mistakes on this thread. - page 3. (Read 3858 times)

Being nice to children doesn't mean anything really. It's called grooming when paedophiles do it. So are you saying you believe it was more likely one of the other three just because they didn't like him?

So in addition to the blood and nail scrape, the body was found in his apartment and he has no alibi? If he's not guilty, I hope he has a good lawyer.

Who are you suggesting did it then? Possibly one of the three Christian guys or somebody else? Did his aunt and Uncle give him an alibi or was there still a timeframe when he could have committed the murder as well?

They may or may not have been hostile towards him, but what are you suggesting by this?

Oh well, that changes everything - not guilty. Do you have an agenda here? Are you implying that they found him guilty because he was a Muslim and not a Christian? 

What was Mr. Met's alibi/testimony to events? I understand that English is not his strong suit.

Probably not a good one. Was all this evidence you provided not brought up in court?

Edit. Reading up on the case she was found in his apartment with blood all the place. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2542689/Esar-Met-guilty-killing-Hser-Ner-Moo-7.html

I suppose it all depends on how much blood was found under his nails and how long after the murder, but can people confirm that he used to play around with her?

who was Mr. Met's lawyer?

DNA under her finger nails establishes physical contact and blood on his jacket establishes the fact that she was bleeding in his presence. The possible injuries the accused has on his body indicate he has been in a violent altercation. In the eyes of a jury these facts are rather damning. It is unlikely in their minds that all of these circumstances just coincidentally occurred at the same time as the murder.

I don't know the details of the case but people have been convicted with far less evidence.     

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kangaroo_court

the best narrative wins, from my "Decision-Making and the Brain" class

http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/juryseminar/storymodel.html
^not from the class I took, but from a google search for "the story model"

framing and perception management go a long way

Updated. The original bounty on this thread is finished.
Now I'll pay 20 hbn to each person who is first to bring to my attention any error of fact I made in my posts.
I know I've made several, incuding the number of roommates and the fact that Met's shower area may not have been a common area used by all roommates. The first post that points out an error is paid.

In addition there is still a 200hbn bounty for anyone who finds real evidence in any of the news articles that shows Met is. guilty. There is a fairly high standard for this proof, it cannot just be "it seems possible he might have done it". The main proof I am aware of is posted on the bounty thread at https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/5-hobonickels-instabounty-easy-money-645898   The bounty is for adding something meaningful to the discussion, not for whining about the standard of proof the bounty requires.

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A fellow recently was sentenced to life in prison without the chance of parole for an extremely violent murder of a young child. The bounty is for anyone who can explain the evidence against this person in a way that will help me understand that he is guilty beyond a reasonable shadow of a doubt.

I will pay the bounty to the best answer and will pay it to someone even if no one can find a reasonable answer. A hundred hobonickels isn't much, about ten us dollars, not sure how much it is in european pesos or any others.

The person is Esar Met and here is a start on looking for the evidence that convinced the judge and jury he was guilty.

He is a Burmese refuggee who speaks no English. He was living with three other refugees in Utah. He was friendly with a neighbor's child, who was later violently murdered. The forensic people said the violence of the attack was extreme.

He used to give piggyback rides to the victim and other children, called 'elephant rides'by Burmese. The victim had a cut on her finger at some point, the parent's of the victim said, and it seems likely some of the blood from this cut got on the back of Mr Met's jacket.

Additionally there were microscopic traces of dna from Mr Met under the fingernails of the child. This seems more consistent with horseplay than violence. Most people will have microscopic traces of dna under their nails of people they have been in close physical contact with.



Other evidence seems even weaker, but as I said, anyone who simply trirs to help me understand the evidence that convinced the judge and jury is eligible for the bounty.

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