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newbie
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See Gamdom CEO

he fails to even keep his promises

whatsapp coversations and telegram i have all evidential proof ... they stole my 20000$ and ban my account

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5408175.new#new
legendary
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The OP has not returned to post here with any wallet addresses which can be checked to calculate exactly how much he sent or received in his transactions with Gamdom. To a degree, he has been too vague on certain explanations and at the same time he has been over elaborative on others explanations. He comes across as being evasive and not open enough and not focused enough. Also the delay in him posting here regularly along with his lack of clarity has been detrimental to his cause and his claim.

At the same time, Gamdom have not provided their bitcoin hot wallet address therefore cannot prove it was empty at the time of the withdrawal attempt. Gamdom have not provided evidence in the form of a bitcoin wallet address to show they paid the OP $20,000 as compensation which was withdrawn immediately. By Gamdom sharing selective screenshots which do not even show 100% of a defence (proving events which they claim actually took place) is either incompetence on their part or a clever ploy to try to hide the full facts.

If Gamdom are not willing to defend themselves against serious scam allegations by engaging in the forum providing evidence to dispute what the OP is saying then anybody depositing funds or playing at Gamdom must consider the bigger picture. And that is if you ever make an allegation against Gamdom do not expect them to try to clear their name with verifiable evidence. Gamdom will never post here using an official account and will post screenshots that do not prove their case, yet will dispute they are scammers.

As Gamdom have no intention to clear their name against serious scam allegation by providing proof they are innocent, they cannot be trusted.

As the OP has claimed he has an unexpected medical condition this might or might not be the reason he has all of a sudden stopped posting here but on the evidence he provided it is not enough to prove he was scammed. His claim of a scam cannot be trusted 100% either because of lack of explanation and lack of evidence.

Time to unwatch, this is my last post in this thread.
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This is disgusting case. Reason I would never play at Gamdom.
legendary
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Sorry for my absence. Had some devastating news and couldn’t be bothered with the arguments online. I signed in via email to check private mails I had but never made the effort to check the comments.  I appreciate your patience.  If you’re a male in your 30s, check your balls. If you notice something, book an appointment don’t put it off.
I am very sorry to hear about the medical condition. I sincerely wish you the best of health.

ONE:
I never got paid out, never got a refund for their failure to uphold terms set out in terms of service. 

Every withdrawal attempt I got the same message “BTC BALANCE LOW SYSTEM NOTIFIED”

TWO:
In relation to the withdraws I accept;
$2000 paid by VIP host Wayne.  Not $20,000 Felix claims, nor $5000 the VIP host claimed he was going to and only gave $2000. Due to my account not receiving the correct bonuses, attached proof of every bonus on account as supplied by Wayne the VIP host.
Between your quotes ONE and TWO above, can you clarify which is correct and if you say both are correct can you at least explain the contradiction on how you said "never got paid out" and at the same time accept you received and "withdrew $2000"?

Can you also post the wallet addresses that you used to send funds to Gamdom, this is in order calculate all the deposits you made to them with date and time stamps.

What cannot be disputed by Gamdom are two very important comments they have made. First is they claimed they deposited $20,000 which "you withdrew instantly" but they have not provided a wallet address or transaction id as proof. Second, Gamdom also never provided their hot wallet address which they claim was empty at the time of your withdrawal attempts.

As it was Gamdom that made those claims they should provide evidence to back it up to defend their reputation and they have not, therefore I cannot accept their claim in blind faith and I am not sure many here will either until they provide substantial evidence.

I cannot speak for others but as of yet I have not seen enough evidence from yourself or Gamdom to say conclusively that a scam took place. I hope things become much more clear in the coming days.
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I wasn’t trying to be rude or create an argument.
I would advise you just as I did earlier, take things easy and relax because you keep saying you did not mean to come across as one thing but keep doing it.

Also, refrain from writing walls upon walls of text again and again because like me many are probably skipping past huge parts without reading them as it is almost impossible to fully understand what you write. I think this is down to you not articulating yourself in a manner that can be understood.

Check the two images below. Do not write a wall of text, keep your answer short and clearly state if these are every single deposit and withdrawal between yourself and Gamdom. Check the dates and times and amounts and so on.

As for you saying your accumulative BTC balance is not showing in the images, I noticed that too along with other information but leave that aside for a moment and take this process step-by-step:

- Which transactions do you dispute (and say either never took place or the BTC amounts are wrong)?
- Were there other deposits/withdrawals not listed in those images?

OK, as promised I wouldn't reply here until I had an official response from Gamdom.

Regarding their games and the claim of them being unlicensed copies, Felix's reply is below.

You can comment here simply that all our games are fetched from Hub88 and we don`t have any copies of games or ever adjusted any potential outcomes, this can all be easily verified and I`ll challenge him to message providers, the guy is just trying to ruin our reputation.


Regarding the scam accusation,

> Felix .:
he deposited roughly 120k, he never had over 200k balance, he had to wait 36h for a withdrawal so he lost initial moneys of what he had and then later deposited like another 100k and lost it, we were low on btc balance in the hot wallet at that time and I was traveling so I couldn't refill. He was given around $20k in rewards after which he instantly withdrew, no strings attached. We banned his account because he made it seem like he is going to kill himself and we didn`t want to have such a player on the website

> Felix .:
he had maybe an issue once but here are all his transactions

https://gyazo.com/f676763bca66bade51988474cc30b99d

https://gyazo.com/67a527c67ef9b5fd72ea07d98db70665

This is Gamdom's official stance on the case.
Thank you for posting their official stance. Here are the images:


https://i.gyazo.com/67a527c67ef9b5fd72ea07d98db70665.png

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https://i.gyazo.com/f676763bca66bade51988474cc30b99d.png


Sorry for my absence. Had some devastating news and couldn’t be bothered with the arguments online. I signed in via email to check private mails I had but never made the effort to check the comments.  I appreciate your patience.  If you’re a male in your 30s, check your balls. If you notice something, book an appointment don’t put it off. .  

Anyways - dispute the withdrawals-
The withdrawals,  ($28, $1000, $1000, $10,000, $20,000 and final one $150)
My deposits were in USD and fluctuating amount; yet the apparent withdrawal always to the point? “$20,000 as opposed to $19,943 which my $20,000 shows as. I’d also point out how random the time frames of “withdraw requests” are in relation to my deposits, either within 30 secondsa deposit  or a few hours after gameplay deposits/
In relation to the withdraws I accept;
$2000 paid by VIP host Wayne.  Not $20,000 Felix claims, nor $5000 the VIP host claimed he was going to and only gave $2000. Due to my account not receiving the correct bonuses, attached proof of every bonus on account as supplied by Wayne the VIP host.  

I’ve been massively lucky on lil devil, multiple times.  It’s a game that will go nuts when it wants too;
I’ve had pragmatic bonuses return 2400x multiple times too, I’ve had 4321x on both Gates and Starlight.  The games run by scripts, game codes; it’s not uncommon to get the same return in percentage when you play these games the amounts I do.   (100s of thousands of spins on each of my favourite games.  I’d say Bonanaza - another huge multiplyer potential - I’ve had well over a million.   Had 6900x multiple times like it’s trolling me.  

Gamdom support wouldn’t acknowledge and pass off a win on another website if it didn’t happen on their site.  They simply state that it’s out of there reach, and out of their control, yet they then decide to lower it and also claim that was for another reason.  

Only the game I accuse them off btw.  All other games run to potentials, just not the one I hit (on Gamdom), and my conversations back this up.  
They have my play history; which is why they stated the other games I played haven’t changed. Only lil devil.

legendary
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It is an interesting piece of information, thank you.

The OP has gone uncharacteristically quiet ever since I asked him to confirm whether the details given in the images by Gamdom for deposits/withdrawals was correct but when he posts a reply it will be put forward to him to make a statement about the image you posted.

Can you provide a link?



Game Lil Devil by Big Time Gaming user account StonedTwat
sr. member
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Maybe OP refer to this screenshot https://postimg.cc/SYNkZ7f8 posted here indeed the winning balance is not included in the deposit/withdrawal transaction list
I already asked the OP to confirm or contest the data in the images provided by Gamdom. Considering he has been very vocal in this thread, it is strange to see he has gone quiet since I asked him to state his position. He has logged in several times but has not posted a response.

It's just that I don't know whether this screenshot is real or fake because OP gets almost the same win in another casino. Username, base bet, multiplier, game provider is almost the same https://imgur.com/Ohzpl0y  The current balance estimation is different because the price of BTC is down.
Can you provide a link?



Game Lil Devil by Big Time Gaming user account StonedTwat
legendary
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Maybe OP refer to this screenshot https://postimg.cc/SYNkZ7f8 posted here indeed the winning balance is not included in the deposit/withdrawal transaction list
I already asked the OP to confirm or contest the data in the images provided by Gamdom. Considering he has been very vocal in this thread, it is strange to see he has gone quiet since I asked him to state his position. He has logged in several times but has not posted a response.

It's just that I don't know whether this screenshot is real or fake because OP gets almost the same win in another casino. Username, base bet, multiplier, game provider is almost the same https://imgur.com/Ohzpl0y  The current balance estimation is different because the price of BTC is down.
Can you provide a link?
sr. member
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No, not according to yahoo62278. You need to pay more attention to what is being said. Yahoo spoke with the casino's owner and the owner is the person who claims OP never had $200k in his account, not yahoo62278. Yahoo only copied what the owner told him. 

Yes, that was very clear, but since the owner of Gamdom (i.e. Felix) doesn't want to respond directly and using a messenger then I was referring to Felix through his messenger, and by all means not implying Yahoo is the problem here.

Felix claims the OP never had $200k balance in his account, the OP claims the opposite - who's right? Like you and like JollyGood said I'm only interested in the bottom line here, without all the dust behind it.


Maybe OP refer to this screenshot https://postimg.cc/SYNkZ7f8 posted here indeed the winning balance is not included in the deposit/withdrawal transaction list
It's just that I don't know whether this screenshot is real or fake because OP gets almost the same win in another casino. Username, base bet, multiplier, game provider is almost the same https://imgur.com/Ohzpl0y  The current balance estimation is different because the price of BTC is down.


sr. member
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No, not according to yahoo62278. You need to pay more attention to what is being said. Yahoo spoke with the casino's owner and the owner is the person who claims OP never had $200k in his account, not yahoo62278. Yahoo only copied what the owner told him. 

Yes, that was very clear, but since the owner of Gamdom (i.e. Felix) doesn't want to respond directly and using a messenger then I was referring to Felix through his messenger, and by all means not implying Yahoo is the problem here.

Felix claims the OP never had $200k balance in his account, the OP claims the opposite - who's right? Like you and like JollyGood said I'm only interested in the bottom line here, without all the dust behind it.
legendary
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@yahoo62278 - can you explain what happened to the $220k balance?
I thought it would be clear by now to anyone who has read this thread that yahoo62278 isn't a Gamdom casino representative or part of their team. He managed their signature campaign on this forum. How can he explain what has happened to an account and the balance of a player?

According to you, Yahoo:

he never had over 200k balance
One of you is lying, one of you is telling the truth.
No, not according to yahoo62278. You need to pay more attention to what is being said. Yahoo spoke with the casino's owner and the owner is the person who claims OP never had $200k in his account, not yahoo62278. Yahoo only copied what the owner told him. 
legendary
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I wasn’t trying to be rude or create an argument.
I would advise you just as I did earlier, take things easy and relax because you keep saying you did not mean to come across as one thing but keep doing it.

Also, refrain from writing walls upon walls of text again and again because like me many are probably skipping past huge parts without reading them as it is almost impossible to fully understand what you write. I think this is down to you not articulating yourself in a manner that can be understood.

Check the two images below. Do not write a wall of text, keep your answer short and clearly state if these are every single deposit and withdrawal between yourself and Gamdom. Check the dates and times and amounts and so on.

As for you saying your accumulative BTC balance is not showing in the images, I noticed that too along with other information but leave that aside for a moment and take this process step-by-step:

- Which transactions do you dispute (and say either never took place or the BTC amounts are wrong)?
- Were there other deposits/withdrawals not listed in those images?

OK, as promised I wouldn't reply here until I had an official response from Gamdom.

Regarding their games and the claim of them being unlicensed copies, Felix's reply is below.

You can comment here simply that all our games are fetched from Hub88 and we don`t have any copies of games or ever adjusted any potential outcomes, this can all be easily verified and I`ll challenge him to message providers, the guy is just trying to ruin our reputation.


Regarding the scam accusation,

> Felix .:
he deposited roughly 120k, he never had over 200k balance, he had to wait 36h for a withdrawal so he lost initial moneys of what he had and then later deposited like another 100k and lost it, we were low on btc balance in the hot wallet at that time and I was traveling so I couldn't refill. He was given around $20k in rewards after which he instantly withdrew, no strings attached. We banned his account because he made it seem like he is going to kill himself and we didn`t want to have such a player on the website

> Felix .:
he had maybe an issue once but here are all his transactions

https://gyazo.com/f676763bca66bade51988474cc30b99d

https://gyazo.com/67a527c67ef9b5fd72ea07d98db70665

This is Gamdom's official stance on the case.
Thank you for posting their official stance. Here are the images:




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newbie
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The “screenshots” show “deposits and withdrawals” not balance amounts.
The btc price you’re seeing is the price of btc at time of deposits. Not balance

Fair enough then.
@yahoo62278 - can you explain what happened to the $220k balance?

According to you, Yahoo:

he never had over 200k balance

One of you is lying, one of you is telling the truth.

Without BSing this thread with nonsense - who is telling the truth here?


After checking your account; I’ll attest you’re not a bot.
I won’t be negative towards you anymore I thought you was a scam account
sr. member
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The “screenshots” show “deposits and withdrawals” not balance amounts.
The btc price you’re seeing is the price of btc at time of deposits. Not balance

Fair enough then.
@yahoo62278 - can you explain what happened to the $220k balance?

According to you, Yahoo:

he never had over 200k balance

One of you is lying, one of you is telling the truth.

Without BSing this thread with nonsense - who is telling the truth here?
newbie
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https://gyazo.com/f676763bca66bade51988474cc30b99d

https://gyazo.com/67a527c67ef9b5fd72ea07d98db70665

7+15= 22
70,000 + 150,000 = 220,000.

No one got paid using your false service stop commenting.

I'm not against you, first of all, and I want the right thing to be done here. The "official" response from Gamdom is these 2 screenshots (links above) - they don't show $220k so are they lying?



The “screenshots” show “deposits and withdrawals” not balance amounts.
The btc price you’re seeing is the price of btc at time of deposits. Not balance
sr. member
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https://gyazo.com/f676763bca66bade51988474cc30b99d

https://gyazo.com/67a527c67ef9b5fd72ea07d98db70665

7+15= 22
70,000 + 150,000 = 220,000.

No one got paid using your false service stop commenting.

I'm not against you, first of all, and I want the right thing to be done here. The "official" response from Gamdom is these 2 screenshots (links above) - they don't show $220k so are they lying?

newbie
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> Felix .:
he deposited roughly 120k, he never had over 200k balance, he had to wait 36h for a withdrawal so he lost initial moneys of what he had and then later deposited like another 100k and lost it, we were low on btc balance in the hot wallet at that time and I was traveling so I couldn't refill. He was given around $20k in rewards after which he instantly withdrew, no strings attached. We banned his account because he made it seem like he is going to kill himself and we didn`t want to have such a player on the website

> Felix .:
he had maybe an issue once but here are all his transactions

https://gyazo.com/f676763bca66bade51988474cc30b99d

https://gyazo.com/67a527c67ef9b5fd72ea07d98db70665

This is Gamdom's official stance on the case.

Taking my balance to $223,000

OP, why did you initially claim you had a $200k balance in the site whilst in fact this is wrong?




7+15= 22
70,000 + 150,000 = 220,000.

No one got paid using your false service stop commenting.
sr. member
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> Felix .:
he deposited roughly 120k, he never had over 200k balance, he had to wait 36h for a withdrawal so he lost initial moneys of what he had and then later deposited like another 100k and lost it, we were low on btc balance in the hot wallet at that time and I was traveling so I couldn't refill. He was given around $20k in rewards after which he instantly withdrew, no strings attached. We banned his account because he made it seem like he is going to kill himself and we didn`t want to have such a player on the website

> Felix .:
he had maybe an issue once but here are all his transactions

https://gyazo.com/f676763bca66bade51988474cc30b99d

https://gyazo.com/67a527c67ef9b5fd72ea07d98db70665

This is Gamdom's official stance on the case.

Taking my balance to $223,000

OP, why did you initially claim you had a $200k balance in the site whilst in fact this is wrong?
newbie
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I like that BitCoinTalk tells you when your posts are deleted. 
What’s being hidden here?
The reply in which the owner claims I was paid and compensated?
Sus
https://postimg.cc/ZWLPZxQk/655dbef4


Do you actually read? Seriously, you're starting to aggravate the piss outta me with your constant accusations. I deleted your goddamn post in my managers thread but quoted it and other replies before deleting them. They're still there but in 1 post so I could delete some trash in my thread.





I do indeed actually read” A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave.”


I read that and thought what’s being hidden.

I didn’t check the thread dates to see if you had edited, cleaned up your thread, or as the message indicated to me that I read, deleted the post.  This is why I brought it to the attention of others.
I’ve made no accusations against you in the way you have to me, ive not displayed any hostility against you as a person so what’s the issue with me my dude?

If I annoy the piss out of you, imagine the body fluids you’d loose if this disgusting exploitation would occur against you.

Not sure why you’re so upset though.  Gamdom kept their word and  actually paid you for pushing their exploiting casino to the public.  

Terms of service exploitation from the casino side is a big no no
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I like that BitCoinTalk tells you when your posts are deleted. 
What’s being hidden here?
The reply in which the owner claims I was paid and compensated?
Sus
https://postimg.cc/ZWLPZxQk/655dbef4


Do you actually read? Seriously, you're starting to aggravate the piss outta me with your constant accusations. I deleted your goddamn post in my managers thread but quoted it and other replies before deleting them. They're still there but in 1 post so I could delete some trash in my thread.


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