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Topic: U.S. bank closing all of my deposit accounts because of bitcoins - page 6. (Read 20566 times)

cp1
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Moving to a different bank isn't an easy task.
legendary
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This is why I'm terrified to use my bank account to buy bitcoins.  I know this guy was doing a lot of transactions, but if they closed down my account it would be terrible.

why? you could just move to a different bank.
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Its called money laundering...... you need a license and a clear  COC



What??? Arbitrage does not, in any way, equal money laundering. Christ, has everyone been brainwashed?
cp1
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This is why I'm terrified to use my bank account to buy bitcoins.  I know this guy was doing a lot of transactions, but if they closed down my account it would be terrible.
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here is what i got. it doesn say much. So when i called bank asking what rules i broke they told I was buying bitcoins . I didnt tell bank i was using it to buy bitcoins just ecurrencies. Somehow they find out
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/106526372/letter.jpg

What sorts of transactions were you doing related to bitcoins?
all i was doing is arbitrage. buying in one place sell them in other

Its called money laundering...... you need a license and a clear  COC

legendary
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I think the war on Bitcoins is only just starting, its a direct threat against BANKS. The only Bank that will support this is the "ANTI-BANKs" IE Credit Unions

I think banks make most of their money by giving out loans. Transaction fees probably don't count for that much. It's things like PayPal and credit card companies that can very easily become obsolete.

Not exactly... check out this article:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/halahtouryalai/2012/03/01/no-surprise-here-bank-of-america-looks-to-charge-more-fees/

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The fees mentioned in todays Journal story are related to basic checking accounts; $6 to $9 a month for an “Essentials” account while other account options being tested in some states carry monthly charges of $9, $12, $15 and $25, the Journal reports. Customers can avoid the fees by maintaining minimum balances, using a credit card or taking a mortgage with Bank of America.

This shouldn’t come as shocking news to anyone paying attention to the banking industry recently which is struggling with flat or decreased revenue numbers. As a result,  many of them are looking for new ways to make money.

Yep.... it's hard to make money on loans when the base rates are below 0.25% per year.
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USBank is fairly conservative and would not open an account of me a couple years ago when I told them I wanted to do currency exchange. If you're going to be regularly sending and receiving even moderate amounts of money, they're eventually going to want to see your AML and KYC bona fides. I would say it's better to be up front with them if you are opening an account but there's no guarantee that what a local branch manager will say will hold any sway at all when corporate's AML compliance team flags you. It's best to diversify bank wise and keep it to a personal level of exchange unless you're prepared to get licensed as necessary in the US/your state/your country.
legendary
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I think the war on Bitcoins is only just starting, its a direct threat against BANKS. The only Bank that will support this is the "ANTI-BANKs" IE Credit Unions

I think banks make most of their money by giving out loans. Transaction fees probably don't count for that much. It's things like PayPal and credit card companies that can very easily become obsolete.

Not exactly... check out this article:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/halahtouryalai/2012/03/01/no-surprise-here-bank-of-america-looks-to-charge-more-fees/

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The fees mentioned in todays Journal story are related to basic checking accounts; $6 to $9 a month for an “Essentials” account while other account options being tested in some states carry monthly charges of $9, $12, $15 and $25, the Journal reports. Customers can avoid the fees by maintaining minimum balances, using a credit card or taking a mortgage with Bank of America.

This shouldn’t come as shocking news to anyone paying attention to the banking industry recently which is struggling with flat or decreased revenue numbers. As a result,  many of them are looking for new ways to make money.
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all i was doing is arbitrage. buying in one place sell them in other

Were you doing the arbitrage on your own or using a third party like this:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/arbitrage-with-guaranteed-profits-with-bitcoin-brokers-251951

Banks keep tabs on your normal account activity so if you suddenly spiked up with higher activity (high cash deposit frequency, lots of wires, etc.) they might be covering their ass by shutting you down.  I would still try to find out what specific term or condition you violated as it will be beneficial to you and the rest of the community.  Ask for it in writing, don't just talk to some customer service agent.
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   There's more to this story than just "we're closing your account because of its association with bitcoins".  Some kind of fraud had to trigger an investigation or the OP was moving thousands of dollars (through bitcoin companies) and the bank dug around and didn't like what it saw.
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"all of my deposit accounts" how many accounts did you have? Huh
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I think the war on Bitcoins is only just starting, its a direct threat against BANKS. The only Bank that will support this is the "ANTI-BANKs" IE Credit Unions

I think banks make most of their money by giving out loans. Transaction fees probably don't count for that much. It's things like PayPal and credit card companies that can very easily become obsolete.
legendary
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This is actually pretty important.  Does anybody know of a list of bitcoin friendly banks?  i.e. Ones with a large amount of branches?

In my experience it is the smaller institutions that will give you less trouble.  I couldn't care less that my credit union doesn't have any branches outside of my state.  They refund all ATM fees anyway.
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This is actually pretty important.  Does anybody know of a list of bitcoin friendly banks?  i.e. Ones with a large amount of branches?
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I think the war on Bitcoins is only just starting, its a direct threat against BANKS. The only Bank that will support this is the "ANTI-BANKs" IE Credit Unions
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Is this the start of US government's war on Bitcoin?
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Get a new bank, problem solved.
well, i'm freaking out cause there is no guarantee other bank will not do the same. I'll give wells fargo try. Spoke to them they dont mind bitcoins.

when i called them to find out what the deal is they say cause i was buying bitcoins. I never told bank i will be using wires to buy bitcoins. I told them i will be buying e-currencies. I believe bitstamp account where i was wiring money to is flagged or something

Try the Internet Credit Union out: https://iafcu.org/ - they've gone on record at the Bitcoin 2013 Conference saying that they support Bitcoin, so you shouldn't have to worry about it with them.
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well, i'm freaking out cause there is no guarantee other bank will not do the same. I'll give wells fargo try. Spoke to them they dont mind bitcoins.

when i called them to find out what the deal is they say cause i was buying bitcoins. I never told bank i will be using wires to buy bitcoins. I told them i will be buying e-currencies. I believe bitstamp account where i was wiring money to is flagged or something
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