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sr. member
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February 18, 2016, 02:33:49 PM

People have right on their money. Still due to the economic system followed over the past people have money and certain value assigned for money. So certain changes need to be done in economic system.

People think they have right on their money.
Whereas in reality they have right on nothing as they don't own money. Banks own money and people have bank credit that's all. If a bank closes you lose all your money.

 Not in my country, friend!  Our deposits are insured.  I get my money back if bank closes.  100% coverage up to 100k.



Well I don't know where you are, Iceland maybe? Switzerland?

 ...or the United States, Canada, Mexico, Saint Vincent, Caiman Islands, Argentina, Chile, Brazil, Uruguay, Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Poland, Portugal, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, United Kingdom, Belarus, Latvia, Norway, Russia, Switzerland, Turkey, India, Hong Kong, Malaysia, Thailand, Japan...

Deposit insurance, whether explicit or implicit, exists in effectively all countries that have a banking system though all might not cover 100% and limits will vary.



Hmm... Not if the banks go bankrupt no... Tell that to the Greeks!
It's not possible for the sole reason that banks actually own only 5% of the money they owe you so...
legendary
Activity: 3808
Merit: 7912
February 18, 2016, 02:21:19 PM

People have right on their money. Still due to the economic system followed over the past people have money and certain value assigned for money. So certain changes need to be done in economic system.

People think they have right on their money.
Whereas in reality they have right on nothing as they don't own money. Banks own money and people have bank credit that's all. If a bank closes you lose all your money.

 Not in my country, friend!  Our deposits are insured.  I get my money back if bank closes.  100% coverage up to 100k.



Well I don't know where you are, Iceland maybe? Switzerland?

 ...or the United States, Canada, Mexico, Saint Vincent, Caiman Islands, Argentina, Chile, Brazil, Uruguay, Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Poland, Portugal, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, United Kingdom, Belarus, Latvia, Norway, Russia, Switzerland, Turkey, India, Hong Kong, Malaysia, Thailand, Japan...

Deposit insurance, whether explicit or implicit, exists in effectively all countries that have a banking system though all might not cover 100% and limits will vary.

legendary
Activity: 1344
Merit: 1251
February 18, 2016, 01:22:10 PM

People have right on their money. Still due to the economic system followed over the past people have money and certain value assigned for money. So certain changes need to be done in economic system.

People think they have right on their money.
Whereas in reality they have right on nothing as they don't own money. Banks own money and people have bank credit that's all. If a bank closes you lose all your money.

 Not in my country, friend!  Our deposits are insured.  I get my money back if bank closes.  100% coverage up to 100k.



Well I don't know where you are, Iceland maybe? Switzerland?
legendary
Activity: 3808
Merit: 7912
February 18, 2016, 01:17:18 PM

People have right on their money. Still due to the economic system followed over the past people have money and certain value assigned for money. So certain changes need to be done in economic system.

People think they have right on their money.
Whereas in reality they have right on nothing as they don't own money. Banks own money and people have bank credit that's all. If a bank closes you lose all your money.

 Not in my country, friend!  Our deposits are insured.  I get my money back if bank closes.  100% coverage up to 100k.

sr. member
Activity: 308
Merit: 250
February 18, 2016, 01:13:15 PM
This is going to be very sad i think!
Many are not even aware of this.
They live their little lives spending more than can afford and believe to Government.
Pab
legendary
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February 18, 2016, 12:57:34 PM
We have  official US Debt celebration
now is 19 030 024 473 090,85
soon 20  and 104% GPD in fact more that compare  to  PIGS countrys
 
legendary
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February 18, 2016, 10:40:15 AM
People think they have right on their money.
Whereas in reality they have right on nothing as they don't own money. Banks own money and people have bank credit that's all. If a bank closes you lose all your money.
Money is promise that you will pay some debt.
So if you think you have money you have someone's debt in a pocket.
All that you can do with this is to watch how money losing its value over time through inflation and other hidden taxes.

Just like you are hold sand in your hands! Cool
sr. member
Activity: 476
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February 18, 2016, 03:56:48 AM

People have right on their money. Still due to the economic system followed over the past people have money and certain value assigned for money. So certain changes need to be done in economic system.

People think they have right on their money.
Whereas in reality they have right on nothing as they don't own money. Banks own money and people have bank credit that's all. If a bank closes you lose all your money.
legendary
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February 18, 2016, 12:51:20 AM
Ok but can someone explain to me how will bitcoin be used for store value in days after big crash?
Maybe bitcoin also will go down especially those mining farms.
  Without great secure network bitcoin will also be in crisis?
The great thing is that they can't seize your money to pay your banks debts like they did in Malta. A few months ago, I saw the topic of a man who lost 300'000$ because of this.
The big corporations and states didn't want to lose money so they just took the deposits in the bank.
Absolutely outrageous, but there is nothing the individual  can do about it. Just don't repeat the same mistake...

Why do you think there is a global push to move to a cashless society?

The bank bail in laws are already in place, doesnt take a genius to put it all together.

Either a haircut of your cash or a slow erosion through negative interest rates will achieve the same the goal.


There is no global push, nobody can tell people what to do with their money.
Every currency is based on trust. Bitcoin has to win that trust.

What I mean is that people hopefully will understand that the actual economic system is rotten and that if they want to store value they will have to diversify their assets (and that includes bitcoin).

People have right on their money. Still due to the economic system followed over the past people have money and certain value assigned for money. So certain changes need to be done in economic system.
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February 17, 2016, 01:43:28 PM
Ok but can someone explain to me how will bitcoin be used for store value in days after big crash?
Maybe bitcoin also will go down especially those mining farms.
  Without great secure network bitcoin will also be in crisis?
The great thing is that they can't seize your money to pay your banks debts like they did in Malta. A few months ago, I saw the topic of a man who lost 300'000$ because of this.
The big corporations and states didn't want to lose money so they just took the deposits in the bank.
Absolutely outrageous, but there is nothing the individual  can do about it. Just don't repeat the same mistake...

Why do you think there is a global push to move to a cashless society?

The bank bail in laws are already in place, doesnt take a genius to put it all together.

Either a haircut of your cash or a slow erosion through negative interest rates will achieve the same the goal.


There is no global push, nobody can tell people what to do with their money.
Every currency is based on trust. Bitcoin has to win that trust.

What I mean is that people hopefully will understand that the actual economic system is rotten and that if they want to store value they will have to diversify their assets (and that includes bitcoin).

So when the governments ban cash what are you going to do with your notes?

They are already looking to ban high value USD, GPB and euro notes and that is just the start.

I think you need to do a bit more reading -

https://www.google.co.uk/?gfe_rd=ssl&ei=IrLEVvTXB9TAaO_LmJAM#q=cashless+society

And by doing so fiat money implicitly loses value.
I know very well that governments want to control as much as possible cash transactions. The thing is each time they do so, people loses interest in cash (and thus cash loses value).
If they continue in this path people will be more inclined to use bitcoin as it's easier to use.

Bitcoin adoption is not an on/off thing, it's progressive.
If the state forbids big cash transactions, some people who used to do it would just switch to bitcoin (easier, no risk to get caught) to do them.
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February 17, 2016, 01:36:47 PM
Yes, just think, what can be the future decision of the debt - it is very large sum of money. I think no one even know what to do with this debt  Smiley
The problem is that even if the debt is meaningless, it still here and the system is built on it.
If there is a massive revolution in the financial system there will be a lot of instability in the short term. People might die during these times.
The change in the system will not be peaceful.
legendary
Activity: 2254
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February 17, 2016, 12:48:49 PM
Ok but can someone explain to me how will bitcoin be used for store value in days after big crash?
Maybe bitcoin also will go down especially those mining farms.
  Without great secure network bitcoin will also be in crisis?
The great thing is that they can't seize your money to pay your banks debts like they did in Malta. A few months ago, I saw the topic of a man who lost 300'000$ because of this.
The big corporations and states didn't want to lose money so they just took the deposits in the bank.
Absolutely outrageous, but there is nothing the individual  can do about it. Just don't repeat the same mistake...

Why do you think there is a global push to move to a cashless society?

The bank bail in laws are already in place, doesnt take a genius to put it all together.

Either a haircut of your cash or a slow erosion through negative interest rates will achieve the same the goal.


There is no global push, nobody can tell people what to do with their money.
Every currency is based on trust. Bitcoin has to win that trust.

What I mean is that people hopefully will understand that the actual economic system is rotten and that if they want to store value they will have to diversify their assets (and that includes bitcoin).

So when the governments ban cash what are you going to do with your notes?

They are already looking to ban high value USD, GPB and euro notes and that is just the start.

I think you need to do a bit more reading -

https://www.google.co.uk/?gfe_rd=ssl&ei=IrLEVvTXB9TAaO_LmJAM#q=cashless+society
sr. member
Activity: 476
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February 17, 2016, 12:22:32 PM
Ok but can someone explain to me how will bitcoin be used for store value in days after big crash?
Maybe bitcoin also will go down especially those mining farms.
  Without great secure network bitcoin will also be in crisis?
The great thing is that they can't seize your money to pay your banks debts like they did in Malta. A few months ago, I saw the topic of a man who lost 300'000$ because of this.
The big corporations and states didn't want to lose money so they just took the deposits in the bank.
Absolutely outrageous, but there is nothing the individual  can do about it. Just don't repeat the same mistake...

Why do you think there is a global push to move to a cashless society?

The bank bail in laws are already in place, doesnt take a genius to put it all together.

Either a haircut of your cash or a slow erosion through negative interest rates will achieve the same the goal.


There is no global push, nobody can tell people what to do with their money.
Every currency is based on trust. Bitcoin has to win that trust.

What I mean is that people hopefully will understand that the actual economic system is rotten and that if they want to store value they will have to diversify their assets (and that includes bitcoin).

Actualy the government and the banks can decide what you do with your money. Especially as most people own nothing but bank loans...
sr. member
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February 17, 2016, 12:21:41 PM
Ok but can someone explain to me how will bitcoin be used for store value in days after big crash?
Maybe bitcoin also will go down especially those mining farms.
  Without great secure network bitcoin will also be in crisis?

Why would it go down? If the whole economic world crashes, the value will be stored in things that are outside this economical trends, such as btc Wink
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hero member
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February 17, 2016, 10:13:44 AM
Yes, just think, what can be the future decision of the debt - it is very large sum of money. I think no one even know what to do with this debt  Smiley
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February 17, 2016, 10:08:52 AM
Ok but can someone explain to me how will bitcoin be used for store value in days after big crash?
Maybe bitcoin also will go down especially those mining farms.
  Without great secure network bitcoin will also be in crisis?
The great thing is that they can't seize your money to pay your banks debts like they did in Malta. A few months ago, I saw the topic of a man who lost 300'000$ because of this.
The big corporations and states didn't want to lose money so they just took the deposits in the bank.
Absolutely outrageous, but there is nothing the individual  can do about it. Just don't repeat the same mistake...

Why do you think there is a global push to move to a cashless society?

The bank bail in laws are already in place, doesnt take a genius to put it all together.

Either a haircut of your cash or a slow erosion through negative interest rates will achieve the same the goal.


There is no global push, nobody can tell people what to do with their money.
Every currency is based on trust. Bitcoin has to win that trust.

What I mean is that people hopefully will understand that the actual economic system is rotten and that if they want to store value they will have to diversify their assets (and that includes bitcoin).
legendary
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Merit: 1043
February 17, 2016, 09:46:08 AM
Ok but can someone explain to me how will bitcoin be used for store value in days after big crash?
Maybe bitcoin also will go down especially those mining farms.
  Without great secure network bitcoin will also be in crisis?
The great thing is that they can't seize your money to pay your banks debts like they did in Malta. A few months ago, I saw the topic of a man who lost 300'000$ because of this.
The big corporations and states didn't want to lose money so they just took the deposits in the bank.
Absolutely outrageous, but there is nothing the individual  can do about it. Just don't repeat the same mistake...

Why do you think there is a global push to move to a cashless society?

The bank bail in laws are already in place, doesnt take a genius to put it all together.

Either a haircut of your cash or a slow erosion through negative interest rates will achieve the same the goal.

hero member
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February 17, 2016, 09:40:23 AM
Ok but can someone explain to me how will bitcoin be used for store value in days after big crash?
Maybe bitcoin also will go down especially those mining farms.
  Without great secure network bitcoin will also be in crisis?
The great thing is that they can't seize your money to pay your banks debts like they did in Malta. A few months ago, I saw the topic of a man who lost 300'000$ because of this.
The big corporations and states didn't want to lose money so they just took the deposits in the bank.
Absolutely outrageous, but there is nothing the individual  can do about it. Just don't repeat the same mistake...
hero member
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February 17, 2016, 08:43:24 AM
Ok but can someone explain to me how will bitcoin be used for store value in days after big crash?
Maybe bitcoin also will go down especially those mining farms.
  Without great secure network bitcoin will also be in crisis?
sr. member
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February 17, 2016, 06:42:08 AM
Better question is how survive this scenario? And what we can see after this collapse?
Probably many people will be at the edge of starvation.
More homeless more sad stories..

 Rest of the world i won't mention same will follow.

"US unemployment rate fell 0.1 percentage points in January 2016 to 4.9%.
The unemployment rate peaked in October 2009 at 10.0% and is now 5.1 "
from: http://www.deptofnumbers.com/unemployment/us/

More than 500,000 people homeless in the United States in 2015 but i can't get info about 2016.

And will be worse!

Probably best solution is go back to nature far from city and create small self sufficient communities..
This is going to be only hope for many people i think.
Grown your own food and be more economical don't throw your money on
expensive unnecessary thing today. Save gold and silver and BTCs.
Learn new skills !
http://economicoutlook2015.com/economic-collapse-2015-51  *Maybe they mishit a year but read in any case.

Ah!

Wanna know what will happen if everything crashes?
People will finallt understand that money is nothing. Just a mean of exchange. They'll understand there is no reason for 5 banks and 4 companies to own the world! We gonna behead them and take back what's rightfully ours.
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