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legendary
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Considering how high the current liquidity there ... it should be a 'warning' for every market participants that investment in the US stock market it's been considered too expensive and can also be an indication of financial difficulties in the near future.

Just like in 2007 ( actually i can't fully compare to that condition ) , the 'financial crisis' getting closer especially after that famous china - US trade war. They are not ok , they should be afraid.
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Do not forget that the media are created in order to manipulate public consciousness. Therefore, each of us must independently collect information and analyze it in order to maximally objectively assess the situation and protect ourselves from various kinds of circumstances. A crisis is inevitable, but it is not known when it will be.
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There was a lot of talk about recession in the last days and the media responded with analytics that shows that the US economy is still growing. For example in their output, employment rate and so on..
the stock market is stable for now but what do you think? Is it worth it to invest in big tech firms now or should we wait a year for a possible slump if recession really hit?
We still should wait, because the longer the war lasts, both China and the US will undoubtedly be affected.
Their output and employment ratios remain good because of the capital of foreign investors. They are giving the US more opportunities than China.
But if this war were to take place in the long run, the consequences would be deficits in some electronics manufacturing industries in the US and agriculture.
Therefore, we still should wait, do not be too rushed before the trade war ends.
sr. member
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Under the much-hated POTUS Donald Trump, economic figures are not really that bad and even the liberal media has been reporting about it (though of course, they loathed the current occupant of the White House to the highest degree). The economy of USA is not yet in recession though it does not mean that the weaknesses and problems are already cured as these good figures can just be temporary maybe lasting for some years and can be reversed once there can be a new president in 2020.
hero member
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It seems to me that we still need to understand the fact that there are a lot of enemies of the dollar and the United States of America.  And it is not necessary to assume that the US government prints counterfeit dollars or not supported by gross domestic product, because I believe that any enemy can do this by throwing bad money into circulation.  Based on this government we love the way it will protect the dollar, as well as many countries too, because their economy also depends on the dollar.
Aside the enemies that you said do print bad money, there are many of their citizens also that are into bad stuff like cocaine and the rest, they also print bad money and then circulate it within the country which till now, some of them has still not been caught, if US needed to print more money, they would have just done it legally, but they all know the repercussion of over printing of money and how it can damage the economy completely, so they would rather just borrow than to print.

We could see the high debt that the united states is in presently and how they are trying to come out of it, so I could never believe such a thing that the united states would be printing fake money. They are facing the little challenge they have now because of debt that they own and also due to their little bad economy which they will surely come out of it.
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The thing is that, statistics have shown the US economy had experienced crashes at an average of every 10 years ever since the creation of the Fed. Now, they're trying to prevent it from happening and you know how they're ensuring that?? By printing more "fake" money and that's why Us in in trillions of Bucks of debts.
It seems to me that we still need to understand the fact that there are a lot of enemies of the dollar and the United States of America.  And it is not necessary to assume that the US government prints counterfeit dollars or not supported by gross domestic product, because I believe that any enemy can do this by throwing bad money into circulation.  Based on this government we love the way it will protect the dollar, as well as many countries too, because their economy also depends on the dollar.
jr. member
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The thing is that, statistics have shown the US economy had experienced crashes at an average of every 10 years ever since the creation of the Fed. Now, they're trying to prevent it from happening and you know how they're ensuring that?? By printing more "fake" money and that's why Us in in trillions of Bucks of debts.
legendary
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That type of logic still stands to this day, Rothschild may have started it but lets remember Warren Buffet gave a loan to a huge bank from himself, not even from his company! Himself! At the amount of couple billion dollars, that is a lot of money to give a bank by a person but he is one of the richest people in the world and considering he holds most of his wealth on stocks and basically papers he must be capable of selling some and funding these sort of things.

After he loaned to a bank because of the 2008 crisis, he started to make so much that it returned to him as 7 billion dollars, bank even tried to buy back the loan as a whole so they wouldn't pay the interest but warren declined because there was no option in the contract like that so he took advantage of it.
legendary
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But don't worry too much about it, just make sure to protect yourself. People make the most money AFTER crashes - everything becomes cheap and if you got the cash you can buy them all

I wouldn't be overly optimistic about that

And yes, I know about the famous saying credited to Baron Rothschild, the founder (if I'm not mistaken) of the Rothschild banking family, that tells you "to buy when there's blood in the streets, even if the blood is your own" (no plagiarism intended). Everything becomes cheap after a crash, but it doesn't in the least make it worth "buy them all"

You should still be choosy what to buy. So while a crisis certainly makes everything cheap and you can in fact buy worthy assets for pennies, it won't make you rich if you buy trash which is not going to survive. In short, regular and time-tested rules of due diligence still apply even in the streets filled with blood, and still more so if it is your blood

True. What assets would you suggest people save for for such crashes? I'm thinking that real estate would be great since normally they'd be quite expensive and if the recovery is taking too long to flip them over, they can be rented out in the meantime. People would always need homes

Help yourself to guns and ammo

Physical gold is the best option in such a scenario. But keep in mind that gold is a passive investment and if this scenario doesn't come to fruition, gold is unlikely to give you any profits. Real estate also seems to be more of a passive option. A more active one would be buying the stock of companies which have good chances to survive but unless you are very familiar with the field, it is hard to tell in advance (read, do your own due diligence at all times)
sr. member
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But don't worry too much about it, just make sure to protect yourself. People make the most money AFTER crashes - everything becomes cheap and if you got the cash you can buy them all

I wouldn't be overly optimistic about that

And yes, I know about the famous saying credited to Baron Rothschild, the founder (if I'm not mistaken) of the Rothschild banking family, that tells you "to buy when there's blood in the streets, even if the blood is your own" (no plagiarism intended). Everything becomes cheap after a crash, but it doesn't in the least make it worth "buy them all"

You should still be choosy what to buy. So while a crisis certainly makes everything cheap and you can in fact buy worthy assets for pennies, it won't make you rich if you buy trash which is not going to survive. In short, regular and time-tested rules of due diligence still apply even in the streets filled with blood, and still more so if it is your blood

True. What assets would you suggest people save for for such crashes? I'm thinking that real estate would be great since normally they'd be quite expensive and if the recovery is taking too long to flip them over, they can be rented out in the meantime. People would always need homes.
legendary
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But don't worry too much about it, just make sure to protect yourself. People make the most money AFTER crashes - everything becomes cheap and if you got the cash you can buy them all

I wouldn't be overly optimistic about that

And yes, I know about the famous saying credited to Baron Rothschild, the founder (if I'm not mistaken) of the Rothschild banking family, that tells you "to buy when there's blood in the streets, even if the blood is your own" (no plagiarism intended). Everything becomes cheap after a crash, but it doesn't in the least make it worth "buy them all"

You should still be choosy what to buy. So while a crisis certainly makes everything cheap and you can in fact buy worthy assets for pennies, it won't make you rich if you buy trash which is not going to survive. In short, regular and time-tested rules of due diligence still apply even in the streets filled with blood, and still more so if it is your blood
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the stock market is stable for now but what do you think? Is it worth it to invest in big tech firms now or should we wait a year for a possible slump if recession really hit?
investing in big tech firms today is an opportunity that will continue to be profitable. Technology companies such as green energy, electric vehicles, and IoT are less noticed today but will be very profitable in the future.

Ah, this is just like in 2008. Band playing before the ship sinks. When people tell you not to be afraid, that's when you should.  Grin
it's important to do your own research because not everything what the media or other people say is the reality, maybe they hide something, stay alert...
hero member
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Maybe at this time the US economy is growing but the US economy is still likely to decline and experience a recession in the next year. For me, I will invest in gold because gold is less likely to be affected by the impact of this global recession. Just look at the US-China trade war yesterday, gold prices skyrocketed.

Another thing that makes me believe that a recession will occur is my suspicion of Trump's words to make peace with China. I am sure that the US has failed in the trade war this time, they have created their own boomerang. Well the global recession is still very high for me and I will try to invest in a safer market.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/15/world/asia/donald-trump-hong-kong.html
If they are making moves to make sure that the recession does not occur, I don’t see why it should still happen, like I once said to someone, yes they know that the economy is getting bad and they will never come openly to declare it to the world being that they are respected and being that they are giants of the world, we could see signs of it from everything that trump was trying to implement by making sure that they spend less, and also making sure that they generate more money, and we could also see how he has been so strictly about some of the illegal foreigner in their country, so I believe trump is doing everything possible to ensure that the recession does not happen, and if he has to make peace with china, then nothing wrong.
hero member
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Well this year the growth of dollar wasn't this good, apparently but you can't always expect it to go up... Every now and then it is gonna take ups and downs but that's what an economy is all about , you cannot always expect good days ..
I think it is more or so Trump ... He is actually trying to make America strong by making other countries weak ,..this won't stay up for long time ...it is bound to happen sooner of later...the sooner they change the president..the sooner it will be better for everyone.
newbie
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The american economy is growing, but what happens when your president is a guy that wants to buy land that's miles away from his country?
You should not look forward on what the media says about the US economy. Just look at the numbers and be objective.

I suggest you to look for the GDP, inflation and unemployment rate. Those are the things you can trust in  Smiley
sr. member
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Ah, this is just like in 2008. Band playing before the ship sinks. When people tell you not to be afraid, that's when you should.  Grin

But don't worry too much about it, just make sure to protect yourself. People make the most money AFTER crashes - everything becomes cheap and if you got the cash you can buy them all.
sr. member
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There was a lot of talk about recession in the last days and the media responded with analytics that shows that the US economy is still growing. For example in their output, employment rate and so on..
the stock market is stable for now but what do you think? Is it worth it to invest in big tech firms now or should we wait a year for a possible slump if recession really hit?
I think the world is getting more sophisticated, all kinds of systems in the world are starting to be based online. By that thing its become our opportunity and signal for us to begin shift our eyes to firms tech to invest, because in the future companies like facebook, microsoft, twitter, apple, etc. will dominate the world stock market.
hero member
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Personal tip: Data will become the biggest commodity in next 5-10 years of time. Invest in such companies who controlls data of the masses. That may be beneficial for the future!

I agree here.

I asked someone about how he's doing and he told me he's doing great and also asked him what is a good investment these days since we usually follow him when it comes to it. He did not say anything but he did pointed the same tip as you posted. Maybe it will be a big thing in the future and I think it will really be a good investment.
legendary
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What would you expect the wealthy owners media to say to you about the politician they are backing?

Think about it this way, you are super rich, you have a president that you can talk anytime you want, he allows you to pay less taxes, he makes your legal problems go away, you give him air time that makes him look good and in return he helps you get more viewership via special interviews, then economy goes bad and there is a risk of him not getting elected again and someone you do not like or they don't like you will be elected instead.

What would you do? Show how bad trump is running the country? Of course not, you would show him as the greatest person who ever lived in order to keep him in office to squeeze more money out of him, that is whats going on.
legendary
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There are things american should be afraid of and there are things they should not be, you gotta figure out how the financial system works to understand that. Right now in USA the rich people and companies combined make %1 of the country whereas earn 90% of the income, we have all known that for a long time now, even in wall street resistance that was obvious and known.

Bernie Sanders has been saying that for decades now. Politicians get bribes from companies and even get gifted shares from companies to make stuff legal for them so they can make more profits, be able to dump toxic waste, be able to kill trees, basically do anything that would normally be illegal turn to legal for them for more profits. If Americans can't stop this system of rich getting beyond law to get richer and poor paying the price for it, then country will keep getting worse and worse.
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