Topic: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. - page 2. (Read 1268 times)

Wow. Has the official Chinese media decided to spread propaganda on bitcointalk? That is very good. Actually, I think we do want to hear what the Chinese have to say to the world in terms of their plans for the world. On the face of it, Chinese really do not appear to be very trustworthy. You only have to look at the how hypocritical they are:
1. Have been known for coordinating cyber attack to steal IP for US universities and companies.
2. Begin their imperialistic actions as soon as they think that the world is not looking or is too weak to question. Like in the sea boundaries with SE countries.
3. Has a policy of using state power as well as state-controlled manpower to take over emerging markets like Africa. This isn't talked about much but the stratification of Chinese society ensures that they have an unending supply of labor at every level of skill with a very special property. They know their place in the scheme of things and will never say a word about "work conditions", "minimum wages" etc. like those in other democratic countries.
4. Bag of lies in relation to the Coronavirus.

The Chinese are a very effective machine. Yet, they show no remorse in using the worst of the times to further their interests. They have no self-correction mechanism to weed out unethical activities sponsored by the Govt like bribing, human right abuses, forced incarceration etc. As long as these activities contribute to maintaining some form of business advantage, the Chinese govt will continue to do it. In a country like US or UK, their own citizens will raise questions if the government activities get too exploitative in foreign lands.

The Chinese are quite clearly a cold-blooded, ruthless, untrustworthy lot.

that's not how it works. if US prints 4.2T last 3 months, it means that their debt is not worth $1Trillion anymore. remember that if you print more the more it loses value.
now what if China will also print more up to $4.2T worth of yuan? does it mean that the two will have to keep printing just to make sure their debt will be lessen?  china hasn't print anything yet. have they?

the only china did is focus more on digital yuan and i guess they are seeing this to happen in the future where the economic war will happen with digital currencies.

lets not judge china too quick  . just because china start the spread does that mean that they mean it ? no i guess  . world is suffering isnt because of china but because some people are not careful enough to them self and to the people around them    . u.s isnt poor and not helpless but u.s is a rich and strong country .  there could be another reason or issue on the past that havent been resolved yet before the covid issue came but lets hope both country will make peace not war

Also that America is the watching eyes of the world should make Trump to speak out on the evil to the world since all other president are not doing that. The world is in crisis about the pandemic and needs solution to live back to normal. China is the focus for this problem as we read through media and people are dying from this infection by daily basis.

I am curious to know what is driving you or motivating you to start a thread like this in a Bitcoin forum? Bitcoin does not care if you are a Communist or a Capitalist, because it is just another currency. Nobody is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to use it, like almost all governments (including China) are doing with Fiat currencies.

I admire some of the Chinese for their work ethic and their loyalty to a government that are crushing their freedom in many ways. We only have to look at the things happening in Hong Kong, to see what I am talking about. Even a dog is loyal to his owner, because he feeds him... The Chinese would have ruled the world, if they had a government like the US.  

Because of China whole world is suffering as we all know. War between US and China will never end. The US companies which were in China will definitely shift to other countries may be to india also. US is very strong country but now because of China US as become helpless and poor.

The method is through colonialization 5.0 with the narrative of the one belt one road (OBOR) program. Almost 23 countries have joined BRI (Belt Road Initiative).

By printing as many renminbi as long as there are productive multi-layered projects that do not use dollars but can bring foreign exchange to China.


To prepare for resilience like the Chinese. China is a country with a super jumbo population, a lot of mouths that need to be fed. Relying on domestic projects alone will not be enough to feed the Chinese people in the future. With OBOR's investment in Africa, China is opening new jobs and making sure the domestic industry continues to spin. Why Africa, many African countries are in fact poor countries, this is an advantage for China to enter the American and European markets especially after China and many Asian countries were dropped from the list of developing countries by America.

Yes exactly with a few modifications. China mimics exactly what America did when it siphoned off China's national assets in the form of cheap skilled labor in the 90s but China's strategy is more sophisticated because it can bind a country in the long run. China will not repeat America's mistakes. China will develop the African manufacturing sector for the European export market given the geographical distance between Africa and Europe is closer. China will make a New supply chain by sending semi-finished goods from China and processed into finished goods in Africa and then exported to Europe. Chinese manufacturing is running, projects in Africa are also on the way and the dollar is entering China.

i don't think China is trying to replace US being the strong and fit to lead in fact they were trying to protect themselves. there is nothing in the history of china that wants to control anyone except their own people. china has power but never have they been trying to attack unless threatened.  in South China Sea, they have been protecting that sea for they are vulnerable in that part.

and yes truth this is not time to attack each other. unless we really want to wipe out part of the world. China is capable of doing that as well.

"Because China is so rich that they can buy the entire Africa...."

Buy the entire Africa? how? and with worth?

Just a few question(s)
why is it that any country who desire to become a super-power will jump from own country into investment in Africa?
Are there no poor people in china or project that need to be funded in China?

I bet China is trying to follow the blueprint of most eu countries & America.

Note : A colleague of mine said to me the other day that the production of the CHINA VIRUS is a proof to American's & Eu that china has the potential to produce unique product!



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@peter0425,

"Them but of course in this situation attacking others is not really needs to be in place because there are so many dying people and sick that needs attention than this one...."   

Atleast, this is one comment that got my attention.

There is no need for china or USA to keep attacking each other. Any country who wants to prove that is the strongest & fit to lead should set a good example by finding lasting solution to this pandermic!

No offence, but, i think it's stupid for some folks who keep talking about power in such a crucial moment where everybody is living in fear of not knowing what might happen tomorrow.

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Soldierwitlittlefaith

Was this called sinoism or something? The act of saying "china is good" basically, I can't really explain it all that well, nationalism in china? Well, zionism was related to Jewish race but sinoism was same thing but for Chinese I think and not just china. All in all China has nothing to do with USA as much as you think.

China thinks they are so powerful that even USA owes them 1 trillion dollars and "can't pay it back" when in reality USA basically printed out 4.2 trillion dollars just in last 3 months so there is no way they can't pay. And yes USA is doing horrible but attacking china is not the result of that. Trump is a racist person and he is willing to attack anyone, China, Russia, Europe, Canada he attacks basically everyone, because his voters are idiots who love racism as well and that is how he gets votes.

China is liable for all this so I feel President Trump will still attack China I feel this is often a really good decision. the results for the entire world for them are that everybody lives in crisis. Not just President Trump but all poisoned presidents should take some action against China. Everything started in China Meanwhile, China has also did not come up with a vaccine and isn't supplying the required pests they're keeping everything secret and conspiring to place the planet in additional crisis.

I believe that China is has more economic prowess than US today because of manufacturing power that china can produce and china got more resources. One thing that keeps Trump attacking china because of the alleged of covid-19 was made by china for world economic sabotage that really gave Trump a motive to hate china over and over again. With all this conflict to each nations, they should sit this a side momentarily because we got more powerful enemy we need to eliminate and give more priority to save more lives during this pandemic.

US + Trump = super power + megalomania = industry defense + economist at war = instability is always there by American design.

I not only see this from conspiracy theories but rather see this from the perspective of national interests. America needs a big budget to support the pentagon, the NSA, the CIA which has been getting funding from the "defense industry". Therefore the war must not disappear so that the demand for weapons remains high and the American arms industry continues to exist. Trump has calculated the benefits of war for America. American tactics have always maintained the war zone's status quo to keep its wares selling.

In 2018, the United States Secretary of Defense stated that "America is no longer focused on fighting terrorism. America is focusing on the growing threat of China and Russia". Trump disagreed with Mattis Mad Dog and then John Bolton who was replaced by Mark Esper and O Brien. Trump needs a war but a military war costs a lot of money. Then the less confrontational strategy is chosen, which is compartments China. China will be compartmentalized on four sides. North by Japan, the Peninsula is guarded by South Korea, Taiwan, and most recently the Southeast Asia region where the South China Sea is the region that is the largest concentration of China in its grand plan for controlling rare minerals. America has also begun to add India as a proxy for pressure on China.

This rare earth metal production has been monopolized by China and the majority of its resources are in southeast Asia. Trump is late in realizing China's move to energy self-sufficiency by the hegemony of the battery industry. The South China Sea is a vital location for the sustainability of China's food security in the future. So to put the brakes on China, America must ensure the status quo in the region. The Philippines has already given a green signal to the American military presence. Australia and America are building military bases in Papua New Guinea.

As the charm of crude oil decreases, the conflict will shift to the area of renewable energy sources and which is the backyard of the challengers of superpower. What would happen to the United States defense industry without rare earth metals.

I am also not a US citizen but I realize there is much shady in China. Data changes have been a violation and besides they do not seem to feel responsible for what the world is suffering. Covid-19 originated from China and it is considered an economic virus. Only strong enough to kill the elderly but making young people spend a lot of time to treat. There is so much restraint on the economies of many heavily affected countries. This time, European countries should accuse China and make them pay the right amount for them.

Well china has so many issue to face,and maybe that same way why Trump is attacking Them but of course in this situation attacking others is not really needs to be in place because there are so many dying people and sick that needs attention than this one.

for me?let start this kind of conversation once the pandemic ends and not now that we have need helping others first.

It’s the trump who decide what’s the number for your perusal, when trump said it number one it must be number one! When trump say it’s obama incompetence it’s the Obama’s fault, when trump said it’s the white people it must be the white people! When trump farting hard you all must smell it with wide open arm welcoming it! When trump said mangina you all said vagina. When trump said 5% you all say 5%! No question ask!

Actually, China is attacking the US by producing cheap products and send them into US and the other countries while the local companies can never produce such cheap good as China does. So, this is so predictable to see US trying to protected the local business by prevent and restrict importing goods from China. If you look deeply you will understand China is attacking but US is defending their economy as they should. We can never say china is poor innocent country since we all know how the crisis started while they are they pretended like nothing happened by secretly taking arrested the doctor who wanted to tell the truth.

Seriously, go see a vet about your eyes and comprehension as it seems you're way off in everything.

I'm giving numbers you're giving me a crapload of text with nothing but stupid discussions between two or more morons and some youtube channels?
Do you know what the ironic part is in that? That those clickbaitish clips are done for one purpose alone, clicks and views than transform in good old us dollar who everyone on this planet is after, even the Chinese.

US debt held, by Chinese? 5%. Nothing! What about the Chinese 10 trillion debt? Crickets!

Before barking like a mad dog and posting another wall of text with no meaning come with numbers! Number!!
Like the debt China has. Like its budget deficit! Like its inequality! Like the numbers of Chinese fleeing it for the US! Like the billions, they come with!
Numbers, not bullshit propaganda and rumors spoken by two lonely guys in a basement full of tin foil.


He is not Chinese, he is a nutcase, and those have no citizenship or race.

no one is diverting the discussion to anything but of course we have all different views in this matter so maybe better to take a look at those views and consider them as another pointers for your intention here.

I think He is Chinese (IMO according to His stand on this matter)
and this is the problem if no one wants to give way or the title because the effect can be felt around the globe and not only on their areas.
the truth?no one wins because the people are suffering from their rivalries and seems not going top stop in the soonest days.

as long as they wont let one to win over other?this will continue .