Topic: US is so poor that president trump constantly attack China. - page 4. (Read 1239 times)

I'm being honest here, I don't have the attention span (or even the necessary interest) to read a long rant like the OP here.  But Trump attacking China doesn't really have much to do with how each country's economy is performing relative to each other--nor is the United States "poor".

I don't know what the real truth is behind how this strain of coronavirus got released into the world, but if it originated in China then that's what happened.  Trump is being unreasonably antagonistic every time he refers to COVID-19 as "the Chinese virus" even if it's true.  If we eventually find out that the virus was released maliciously or there was some sort of coverup, then that's another discussion but as of now not all the facts are known.

I'm not a big fan of China, believe me, but I'm not going to pretend that I'm outraged that the outbreak started there.

Business with China is divided into two, namely business with private Chinese usually for domestic Chinese business and business with Chinese State-Owned Enterprises for trade affairs or projects outside China.

What is scary is that China makes it look like a developed country with a lot of development, but development is not followed by economic growth. Because China regulates that as little money as possible spin outside China.

China built several infrastructure projects in Indonesia, namely the nickel and other rare metals processing smelters. When the smelter construction project began, the majority of project materials such as machinery, furnaces, and even steam power plants were all prepared by China, even the workers who carried out construction work ranging from workers to expert technicians, all from China. China lobbies with Indonesian officials to regulate the procedure for exporting and buying and selling metals rarely to make it profitable and allow China to monopolize.

The raw material for infrastructure projects from China means that China's industry is moving and the surplus continues. Then the logistics side both domestic and the cross country also moves. Workers are also required from China on the pretext that those who understand the technology are the Chinese people. Then China made the Indonesian government issued a ban on the export of raw metals which directly means Chinese smelter companies in Indonesia can buy, of course, at low prices.

While Indonesia where the project exists and the smelter stands only get the dirt of Chinese people who live in Indonesia and a little turnover of money to pay for routine Indonesian overhead. The title is the mega smelter project in Indonesia, but in reality, the money is revolving in China, not in Indonesia. So that the more prosperous the Chinese. Developing countries are just wondering what happened.

I am not a big fan of USA neither and I think they are run very corruptly and I think you are right in many aspects of your attacks against USA, they are not even as democratic and free as they claim to be as well.

However trying to show how powerful China is by saying they could buy the whole continent of Africa is not a way to promote China neither. Are they very powerful? Sure they are, but their government is the one that is so powerful, Chinese people are still living a lot worse than many people in European countries, even the small and economically bad ones, Americans live better than Chinese as well, almost everyone lives better than Chinese, these are the people who call 1 dollar per day as living wage versus 10 bucks an hour in USA.

Moreover, China is known for their recent horrible treatment of Uyghur Turks and also what they did to Hong Kong. Having a powerful dictatorship doesn't make you a good country, it just makes you a powerful dictatorship, its same as promoting Nazi Germany on their best period.

China is very clever, they grab all the raw resources from the 3rd world countries and then turn that into products to sell it back to the 3rd world countries and even the USA for a massive profit. Their workforce in China is very disciplined and hard working and also cheaper than first world workers in countries like the USA with all their Unions and human right and basic conditions of employment requirements.   

The people in the US are getting massive salaries, compared to workers doing the same work in the USA. So you cannot blame China for using their own cheaper workforce and also investing into their own economy. 

^ yeah that’s it, that’s how president trump are feeling right now, president trump get so mad because it’s you who also behave like president trump. So mad that he want to ban China, so mad that you want to ban me, why can’t discuss about US debt in this section? Is it a moderated keyword? Admin can clarify?

I feel like this topic needs to be a part of the Politics section since you are constantly deriding the USA and glamorizing China by highlighting all the so-called benefits that China has over the US. Every country has a mountain of debts which is why China is not an exception.

Lol. What? China owns US? Both countries have powerful economies. Comparing them is a big debate. It seems like you are trying to defend China incessantly since the entire world is blaming them for the COVID situation currently.

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US always want to be the number one even in the context of who get the most tax income from apple, US try to claim they’re the biggest beneficial from apple becoming the most powerful and valuable business.

No business in this world pay more taxes to the China government than apple did, how much did Apple pay the tax to China government? Nobody know, but one thing everybody know, China own nearly all US debt, and that’s the money China collected from tax income to purchase US debt, where does China get so much US dollar to buy so much debt from the US besides collecting tax money from big US business??? China was in 2004 just a debt ridden poor country with nothing to show, nobody want to be China in 2004, only apple want to go to China, because Apple want to explore the Buddhist soul in the India, and convert into Buddist, the ironic is more and more US company move to China to find the same souls inspiration, that include Zuckerberg, the latest installation being blizzard.

China literally have zero debt and have a lot of USD reserve in their coffers, that’s standing at $3 trillions after acquiring almost all US debt. Yeah from no USD reserve in 2004 into $3 trillions USD reserve in 2020, how did China get so much USD reserve from, nobody know how China could have so much USD reserve, no one want to question that. US is already owned by China in financial means, that’s China basically buyout the entire US, it’s just US refuse to acknowledge, and refuse to move out, like a tenant who refuse to pay rent but not willing to leave too, it’s how the business world work, you don’t pay rent then get out of the house!

^ Obviously these two countries are competitors in many aspects but they both have different approaches when it comes to government including other countries. All of us are entitled to our own opinion and depending on our preference we may be on the side of one party to the extent that we may become bias. Because of our preferences, we also tend to love, fight, or sometimes idolized the one that suits our preferences. We probably get into an argument if we encounter someone whose preference is the exact opposite of ours. US and China have different beliefs but at the end of the day, their aim is always for the good of many like for livelihood, security, education, etc. But if we are going to talk about sovereignty China is doing all of these just to defeat the US to have the absolute power for the entire globe since China has started doing that even in my country because they keep on trying to expand their territory to defeat the US easily.

I don’t know why the discussion will get distorted into this direction,  it as always most of them who’s like to give generic answer, they would just blame everything on racist, inequality, sexism, white, left wing, right wing, and many people seem to buy into this idea.

Nope, Trump is getting mad, it’s the money that drive anybody into racist, it’s the wealth that make people fall into jealousy, it’s all about money, the reality is China is so rich it even have impact on billionaire, nothing can drive any guy into insanity than money, you can dismiss it, but it’s you who’s racist trying to call the rest is racist, hypocritical people always do the same.

How is your daily routine during lock down, are you sure you don’t feel poorer at all time? Are you sure you can compare to China spending habit? Are you sure you’re not fearing on getting poorer? I think many people has loss their jobs, without source of income, and it would be very long terms, might be last for a few years, that’s gonna change many people life tremendously, and their daily routine would never be the same again, I’m very curious, to know are you doing any better by now, and what’s your plan or you’re just simply being hostile to the lock down by being unable to be yourself, totally clueless, just at the mercy of lock down, shameless, I think white monkey in China might have more freedom than you’re in your home land.