Topic: Use of AI on Bitcoin talk - page 2. (Read 1702 times)

Lol...You are now overstressing things and I guess you and I are not in this same forum, because if we are, I would surely notice what you are alleging. Many high-ranked members can be writing garbage, and this is applicable to those with high merits, but for them to use AIs and still get to that feat undetected is not so feasible.

You may be right with a few though, I can't possibly know everyone and read all posts, but the overemphasizing it is what I do not buy. But if you are sure of this, then you should not keep silent. You should report it at the appropriate sections of the forum, especially if they violate the moral ways of using AIs on this forum. The issue is that there are no vivid spelt rules regarding the use of AIs here, yet there are some plain use of it that would violate the rules of the forum, especially the plagiarism aspect of it.

There is no way one can be using AIs without plagiarising if they do not edit it as alleged, so you can have a valid point if you point us to those posts for us to also judge.

Now this is interesting.

What you stated seems to be the case without doubt for members who are simply trying to spam for their signatures or rank up but when you state you have seen AI constantly being used by several high ranked members I was unable to think of any name at all. If you will not name names, is it possible you can give an estimated number?

In some cases they probably do but that is when reported posts also help them.

I'm in 100% agreement with this statement. Its the people, the personalities, the ideas & the educators that make this forum what it is. Also the trolls & the smart-asses, but technology won't make them better either.


From what I understand, the strict interpretation is they were banned for spamming. A less strict interpretation would be they were banned for AI spam, and the least strict would be they were banned for using AI. Between me & others in the AI Spam Report Reference Thread, they had about 30 "AI spam" reports marked as "Good". He had been warned continuously about it since November...

Don't you know about the existence of a thread where you can report such posts? https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ai-spam-report-reference-thread-5456516
I wouldn't be so confident in saying that many high-ranking members are now using AI tools to write posts. Therefore, as an example, please show some examples.
Although the forum has not created clear rules for the use of AI tools for writing posts, such behavior is highly condemned.

I have seen a lot of high-ranked members constantly posting AI-generated posts and their posts are always identical and you can see that they aren't written by a human, what's worst is that they don't even edit them and you can sometimes find sentences and words that give it away that they are using an AI language model to generate those posts.
I wonder how difficult they find it to write posts themselves that they do this, I mean, if you have nothing to contribute, just don't make posts at all, but then again, they need to earn money from here. Signature campaign managers need to up their game identifying and catching AI users.

If I didn't know better (and I don't), I'd say the above post was AI-generated since it's totally generic and either comes from the mind of a simpleton shitposter or Tmoonz had some sort of "help" in the writing of it.  

I keep hearing that AI is getting better and better by the day and that pretty soon any online writing job--like blogging, journalism, etc.--is going to be done by AI.  That's fucking frightening to me.  And considering how many people participate in sig campaigns here and who, before AI was around, put in the least amount of effort possible, I have to think a lot of them are now just using programs to make posts that seem on-topic for any given thread and go undetected by members who happen to read them.

Technology is not going to make this forum better, I tell you.  Not even if that New Forum Software ever gets released--and that's a big LOL right there.

OK, but was that because of his use of AI or for some other reason?

It seems just as you were giving him some advice about posting he was banned, at least you tried to guide him but the inevitability eventually caught up with him.

I would have to agree. AI is being used in many formats across many different industries that are mostly going reap rewards of innovation. Granted there will be aspects to frown upon such as the obvious loss of jobs to AI but it is more-or-less being used for positive purposes in general. As you correctly cited, when it used for signature spamming it causes issues especially if the post contains incoherent ramblings or off-topic nonsense.

The person who may use these methods to produce publications may be proficient English language and able to communicate. Using artificial intelligence can also save time. Interacting with others requires time to read their posts, while when using AI, five posts can be produced in a few minutes.

As for posting on the forum, this cannot be considered an ethical act or beneficial to users. The forum administration does not need to set rules regarding this because it could be considered spam and the account will be banned. At the same time, I do not support the effectiveness of fraud detection applications because they are still inaccurate to use in judging any suspicious content.

AI is very good tool and have a various advantage but problem here is people misusing it. This forum is for sharing own idea, information and opinions and generating AI post and then just paste it here making no sense here especially when you are wearing signature and receiving payment then it is more worst. I have checked users posts and most of AI posters just want to rank up or spamming for signature posts. If we use this tool positively then there is no strict rules for example I used two or three times when I was getting error in table bb code. Chatgpt mark the mistake I done in the code.

The clarification which you were expecting have been made known to you by Nwada001 and it might be the right time to lock the thread to prevent trolls and spammers feeding here. Really, my English is not too furnished but since no body had complained, it means I am writing what  anybody can still be able to read and understand. I don't know how to use any tool to make my English better unless I have to practice how to do so with the tools that Nwada001 listed. Thanks Nwada001.

You already have about one in seven of your posts deleted by moderators – that's more than 14% of your total posts.  If you continue on this path, you'll likely get banned from the BitcoinTalk forum.


Edit: According to BPIP.org, profile has been Autobanned

Its not that you're using AI to correct your words (which you shouldn't do anyway), its that you're using it to generate entire thoughts for you. You're telling me that you actually know a way to bridge out bitcoin testnet to bitcoin signet? These are not your words:


Copyleaks: AI content detected
Hive: 100% likely to be AI generated
Sapling.ai: 100% fake

In addition to this being entirely AI generated, it contains false information. You shouldn't be posting in this section at all. At least 9 of your posts written this month are AI generated, even though you were warned about that 4 times between Nov and Jan. If you don't want your posts deleted, stop using AI.

Well the rules are very ok because it help us to be able to write very well in English,than to use AI because by using AI it just like someone who is doing expo in the classroom and it will not help us anywhere if we continue to use AI,but when you do your best with your brain it's preferable even though you sentence is not long enough,but at least the little that you were able to put down is commendable more than the good write up you have stolen from the AI..

Again please is there any moderator who can monitor all this,and be able to identify this AI write up and finish them out or how did get the find out who uses AI write?

It is an important saying that what ever have an advantage also have a disadvantage, it not ethical using AI to generate a forum post, it makes the human brain less functions by lowering productivity and creativity. AI should only be a quide and to completely rely on , one of it's disadvantage is that it works only with existing ideas and not a new idea, information from AI should not be use without contrasting it to you own language.

It can be so, and it's much better if others will see it. Because if you don't know how to write well something and rely on AI, you can miss when it will say something not exactley what you wanted. And when the entire text will look like it was written by a professional, people may think that some disgusting idea was the thing you really wanted to say. And if your text is not perfect, people usually think that it was just a mistake because of problems with formulating. AI is not a good friend, it is dangerous tool which should be used with all possible caution, if we are not talking about using it for fun.

And you can always make a reference that AI was used for writing your text not to mislead others.

the law of not using AI in creating post is rather contextual than it literal connotation.

If I have a topic I intend creating and maybe I am not all that good at writing from scratch, I can use AI as a tool that will help me pass my message in a readable and easily compressive manner. That's way different from asking AI to write a post that is Bitcoin related for me. From reading through a post, it wouldn't take time before you will be able to differentiate between an organic post and one that is generated by AI.

I think the way we are looking at the use of this AI of a thing is rather strange. The Essene of the use of AI is to serve as an aid that will guide you while doing a particular task.

Sometimes if I'm writing an application letter for a particular job, I can decide to give chat GPT the details that I need to be included in my writing and I tell it to write it in a professional way. I know it can't give me the standard of application letter that I want but I will allow it to generate something for me and then I combine it with what I have written down already and I come up with one of the best application letter you can ever see. It's not to say that I'm giving any false details about my qualification or stuff like that but its more of presenting myself in a moderate and easy to understand manner.

Of course as I have stayed a bit longer in the forum, one of the main thing I have learnt is that people actually love it when you're real and apart from sourcing for fact before making some statement in the forum, I just prefer to write my thing to the extent of my knowledge and that's just it.

LOL. Maybe for you. Every piece of writing (blog or otherwise) I've ever done came 100% from my own brain. I would expect anyone else to do the same. Personally I can't stand reading regurgitated text and I can spot it almost immediately. I guess if you are lacking in creativity and don't care to put any effort into your work, then text spinning a suitable alternative, but it will never drive as much clicks or engagement as original content, SEO-wise.


It doesn't really matter what Google does. Use of text spinners has been disallowed on this forum for quite some time. When you paste AI-written text without crediting it as such, you are basically attempting to trick the reader into thinking your post is a product of your own brain when it is not. It is dishonest and deceitful.

Sure, it makes life easier if you are posting from several different accounts, but nobody will read your posts, and the employers of your sig campaigns will notice this.

It seems like I'm far behind in the discussion this time, but I want to add a little. Don't know if anyone said this or not

Plagiarism is usually prohibited as it relates to copyright and can bring one into legal jurisdiction. Meanwhile, blog writing techniques are usually known as re-writing and copy-writing, namely the technique of combining writing and rewriting in your own language. In the past, Google's algorithm did not prohibit rewriting because no patent violations were found, so I don't think AI is part of plagiarism even though I also don't like AI, and it seems that the latest Google algorithm also quite hates writing created by AI.

It’s not bad to seek answers through AI as it can be helpful actually but the moment you commanded AI to provide you an answer, that makes it so wrong, it’s like you only copy its idea without having your own. It still falls on plagiarism which is certainly not allowed in the forum. If you continue doing that, you will be banned permanently once caught.

However, if AI becomes one of your basis only and you interpreted it on your own and give your personal opinion or idea, that is sharing what you have understand, and not copying from AI. Sometimes, using words from AI can initiate clues, and that’s where you start formulating your own words and phrases based on how you comprehend on the topic or thread.

You're all right, there's no point in making post without giving credit to the source and the content are not directly from the experience we had, so what's the point coming out in this, someone will make a post and will not identify the credit to the source of the post be it AI or not, so i dont see it as nothing than pure plagiarism in disguise.

This is not about the requirements by the signature campaigns, here we are talking about someone making a true and genuine post in a thread, and not lending from the robot to make contributions.