Users who spread false/fake/unhelpful information on technical board - page 4.

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Quote from: OgNasty on January 31, 2024, 02:15:41 PM

I think in order to be mad at someone for spreading misinformation you have to determine if it’s being done because the person is an idiot and doesn’t understand something that they think they do, or if they are genuinely trying to spread FUD.

In this case they are just pasting stuff from ChatGPT, which is often wrong when it comes down to the technical details of how bitcoin works. I remember seeing one such poster post about how the internet isn't required to make cryptocurrency transactions. But they posted it in Altcoin Discussion so it didn't matter as much, because nobody really reads what's in there.

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I think in order to be mad at someone for spreading misinformation you have to determine if it’s being done because the person is an idiot and doesn’t understand something that they think they do, or if they are genuinely trying to spread FUD. Both are possible, but one is evil. This is why we should be very thankful for the knowledgeable people who sit in that section all day and help people with difficult solutions for no pay.

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Quote from: Mrbluntzy on January 30, 2024, 01:44:53 PM

I do come across wrong information too on other board of this forum and I wish a thread can also be specifically created where user can report members who are steadily passing wrong and misleading information to readers.

@OP, I like the idea of this your topic. I don't contribute yet on the technical board because I don't know much about Bitcoin technical and I am still learning from the technical boardboard, until I have a good knowledge about technical related issues, that is when I can comfortably make comment there.

It is better to keep mute or ask questions when someone don't have any knowledge about what is being discussed else they will just give wrong information.

Yeah, wrong information happens on all boards. But on technical board it's especially worse since there's expectation people know what they're talking about.

Quote from: ABCbits on January 30, 2024, 06:13:01 AM

User: Life_Saving

This user continue to spread false/fake information.

Quote from: Life_Saving on January 30, 2024, 07:02:21 AM

Electrum primarily supports Bitcoin. If your friend is dealing with a different cryptocurrency, they should check whether Electrum supports that specific coin. Importing private keys or seed phrases comes with security considerations. Make sure your friend understands the risks and takes appropriate measures to keep their private information secure. o import cryptocurrency into Electrum, your friend will need the private keys or seed phrase associated with their wallet. Ensure they have the necessary information before attempting any import. Electrum itself doesn't charge fees for importing funds, keep in mind that the blockchain network may charge transaction fees. These fees are usually variable and depend on network congestion and transaction urgency.

1. Electrum only support Bitcoin.
2. While there are Electrum fork which support altcoin, usually it have different name. For example, Electrum-LTC or Electron Cash (for BCH coin).
3. Import private key doesn't create new Bitcoin transaction, so there's no point mentioning TX fees. It's only relevant if he's talking about sweep private key.
4. It doesn't really answer OP's question.

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During the wallet creation process, you may have the option to set up a BIP39 passphrase. This is an additional word or phrase that acts as an extra layer of security.
If you choose to set up a passphrase, make sure to remember it or store it securely.

This reply created for thread about Electrum, where Electrum doesn't create BIP39 words but rather Electrum Seed Version System (https://electrum.readthedocs.io/en/latest/seedphrase.html). In addition, this reply doesn't answer OP question at all.

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I do come across wrong information too on other board of this forum and I wish a thread can also be specifically created where user can report members who are steadily passing wrong and misleading information to readers.

@OP, I like the idea of this your topic. I don't contribute yet on the technical board because I don't know much about Bitcoin technical and I am still learning from the technical boardboard, until I have a good knowledge about technical related issues, that is when I can comfortably make comment there.

It is better to keep mute or ask questions when someone don't have any knowledge about what is being discussed else they will just give wrong information.

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Quote from: BabyBandit on January 27, 2024, 02:24:52 PM

I think that's not the only board that users spread false/fake/unhelpful information. I have seen it on other boards to.
But good that it comes up to the table. Good OP that you created this, it can lead to something good in time.

to worsen the whole thing, it was discovered that not really do these people make mistakes to receive being corrected, but they deliberately make post that they know nothing about and still argue blantly just to proof themselves right, the truth about life is that when we know something then it becomes so easy and simple for us to use it and make a rightful application of it unlike when we have no idea and refused to learn from the mistakes we made.

ABCbits

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Edit: there's possibility this user also use AI to create posts, see https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63583674.

User: Life_Saving

Quote from: ?? on ??

initiating a reindexing process can help optimize the database and reduce the size of the chainstate folder.

Use the following command:

Code:

bitcoin-cli -prune=550 -reindex

Non-sense post,
1. ~~Reindex doesn't reduce chainstate folder.~~ Based on https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/a/117435, --reindex does reduce chainstate size if you already run node for long time. But since the goal only about reducing chainstate folder, using --reindex-chainstate is far better option.
2. Running --reindex or --reindex-chainstate on pruned node means Bitcoin Core redownload whole blockchain.
3. The command itself is wrong. bitcoin-cli only used to interact with Bitcoin Core JSON-RPC.

If he posted correct command and someone who run pruned node copy-pasted it without understand what it does, he/she forced to redownload 500GB+ blockchain which took few days (which depends on internet and computer hardware).

Quote from: ?? on ??

Mining using the FutureBit Moonlander 2 -

Hardware Setup:

Connect the FutureBit Moonlander 2 to your computer using the USB port.
Make sure the miner has a stable power supply, and consider additional cooling solutions if needed.

Mining Software:

Choose mining software compatible with the FutureBit Moonlander 2 and the cryptocurrency you intend to mine (Litecoin, in this case).
Download and install the required mining software on your computer.

Configuration:

Configure the mining software with details specific to the Moonlander 2, such as its device ID and the mining pool you want to join.
Consult the documentation provided by both the mining software and the Moonlander 2 for precise configuration settings.

Mining Pool:

Join a mining pool to increase your chances of earning rewards consistently.
Obtain the stratum URL and port number for your chosen mining pool and input these details into your mining software.

Wallet Setup:

Create a cryptocurrency wallet to receive the mining rewards. Ensure the wallet is compatible with Litecoin or the cryptocurrency you're mining.

Start Mining:

Launch the mining software and monitor its output for any issues.
If everything is configured correctly, your Moonlander 2 should start contributing hashpower to the mining pool.

Monitor and Optimize:

Regularly check the performance of your mining setup, including hashrate, accepted shares, and any potential issues.
Consider adjusting settings or exploring overclocking options to optimize your mining efficiency.

Looking at official guideline for Moonlander 2 at https://www.futurebit.io/moonlander-2-support, there are few inaccurate things.
1. You must to download required driver for Moonlander 2.
2. You don't need to specify the device ID. Mining software usually automatically detect your USB miners.
3. This reply isn't relevant with OP's question. OP only ask about possibility of solo mining with Moonlander 2.

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Quote from: snuffman8 on January 26, 2024, 12:53:16 PM

If it does counts, im truly sorry about using AI to help me interact in some kind of posts, that definitely i do not know a sh*t about. But yes, i thank you for making me see that this is not the way, and this community has a lot to make grow up not only about crypto, but as a human.

It's great that you acknowledged your mistake instead of denying it. I don't like to discourage newbies, but I understand why ABCbits or anyone else might be annoyed by this. Bad advice is worse than no advice, especially when it could potentially lead someone to lose money.

If you want to help others, it's important to first acquire knowledge and once you have mastered a particular topic -- feel free to offer help. Additionally, I personally don't think using AI is inherently a terrible thing to do. It's how people use it that determines the outcome. If your English isn't the best or you struggle with constructing proper sentences and simply want AI to assist you in that regard, I believe it's entirely normal. Tools like Grammarly serve the exact purpose, however, what is not acceptable is copying someone's question into an AI website and then blindly copying and pasting the answer.

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I think that's not the only board that users spread false/fake/unhelpful information. I have seen it on other boards to.
But good that it comes up to the table. Good OP that you created this, it can lead to something good in time.

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Quote from: snuffman8 on January 26, 2024, 12:53:16 PM

If it does counts, im truly sorry about using AI to help me interact in some kind of posts, that definitely i do not know a sh*t about. But yes, i thank you for making me see that this is not the way, and this community has a lot to make grow up not only about crypto, but as a human.

Man, you didn't understand the essence of where you went wrong. You can use AI or any tool which can help you understand something better, but how the hell did you imagine that you need to give advice and information about something that you say "do not know a sh*t about"?
Would you agree to the treatment of the disease through ChatGPT suggestions?
If it's part of a fight to earn merit it's completely wrong.

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Quote from: snuffman8 on January 26, 2024, 12:53:16 PM

Im really happy that you made this post.
By the days, ive just realized that this forum is much more than just a talk about bitcoin.

As you can see, all my post over the days after that are pretty regular and do not have anything to do with AI. What i did not know, i asked and people here were friendly and helpful.

If it does counts, im truly sorry about using AI to help me interact in some kind of posts, that definitely i do not know a sh*t about. But yes, i thank you for making me see that this is not the way, and this community has a lot to make grow up not only about crypto, but as a human.

Did you read the whole thread? The main problem is false/fake/unhelpful information. Whether it's written by human or AI matters little to me.

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Quote from: _BlackStar on January 22, 2024, 05:43:46 PM

Regarding this case - I remember one thread about; Newbie, stop teaching.
Newbie and other users don't need to talk about something if they are not experts. Of course they can learn first - but if they start without knowledge then this is not responsible behavior even if they want to appear knowledgeable about the topic. IMO - this will only make things worse and make harm other users. Now he is only harming himself because he posted that content and many other posts with AI.

I’m surprised to see this user visits the technical discussion section, just two days ago, he created a topic in beginners & help asking about wallets. From his posts on that thread, you could tell that he is a new to crypto and doesn’t have any real knowledge about crypto. So what’s he doing giving advice to people in regards to the technical aspects of bitcoin.

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Im really happy that you made this post.
By the days, ive just realized that this forum is much more than just a talk about bitcoin.

As you can see, all my post over the days after that are pretty regular and do not have anything to do with AI. What i did not know, i asked and people here were friendly and helpful.

If it does counts, im truly sorry about using AI to help me interact in some kind of posts, that definitely i do not know a sh*t about. But yes, i thank you for making me see that this is not the way, and this community has a lot to make grow up not only about crypto, but as a human.

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Quote from: SamReomo on January 21, 2024, 09:18:44 AM

Those people really don't know that the text they are generating with those AI generators is mostly wrong and they're sharing that wrong information with others. The user who made those posts is a newbie and he/she might not be aware that the information which AI generates is wrong and not useful at all.

Regarding this case - I remember one thread about; Newbie, stop teaching.
Newbie and other users don't need to talk about something if they are not experts. Of course they can learn first - but if they start without knowledge then this is not responsible behavior even if they want to appear knowledgeable about the topic. IMO - this will only make things worse and make harm other users. Now he is only harming himself because he posted that content and many other posts with AI.

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Quote from: blckhawk on January 21, 2024, 01:56:36 AM

He wants to appear to have mastered but the problem is that he wasn't able because he didn't have an any amount of knowledge to at the very least check what the hell is the AI generated text talking about, if he knows something, then there wouldn't a be a thread like this that will talk about his issues.

Even AI does not technically have complete control over Electrum if it chooses to use AI technology assistance in creating the post.
It's better to be honest about things that are beyond our abilities.

If we don't understand it, the smart choice is to frequently visit discussion topics about wallets and read one by one the posts of those who are discussing it.
I'm embarrassed and not confident to say that I can pass by making a post about it.

Whether you have above average knowledge about Electrum and other Bitcoin wallets, let you judge for yourself. If I have said that I still haven't mastered it.

Quote from: blckhawk on January 21, 2024, 01:56:36 AM

I guess this is also a call out to those people that want to talk about things, make sure that you know what you're talking about or you risk getting laughed at.

Something that's not bad. Call out to ourselves before calling out to others.

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That guys post proves that AI doesn't really understand much about Electrum and Bitcoin and the ones who rely on it often get caught due to such misinformation. Although in some tasks AI text generators like ChatGpt can help the ones but in most cases the information they produce is totally useless and unreliable.

Those people really don't know that the text they are generating with those AI generators is mostly wrong and they're sharing that wrong information with others. The user who made those posts is a newbie and he/she might not be aware that the information which AI generates is wrong and not useful at all.

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Quote from: NotATether on January 20, 2024, 12:29:42 PM

Quote from: ABCbits on January 20, 2024, 08:40:32 AM

--snip--

It definitely looks like he's just running his posts through ChatGPT.

ChatGPT usually create more formal text though, although i know user can ask it to be less formal.

Quote from: NotATether on January 20, 2024, 12:29:42 PM

Although on an unrelated note, all my transactions have 00000000 locktime which disables it.

Yeah. I mentioned risk of accidentally locked coin for long time since i recall it happened to someone on technical board.

Quote from: NotATether on January 20, 2024, 12:29:42 PM

If you have the time, do stop by in the thread to leave your advice about this as it would be appreciated.

I already stopped by before creating this thread. But i couldn't think any suggestion that might be helpful, so i just left merit to post which is likely to be helpful.

Quote from: stompix on January 20, 2024, 10:11:38 AM

But this case is still weird because AI usually give better advice than the ones posted in the technical support section.

AI usually give bad/wrong advice when when the topic is really specific (like sequence number on Bitcoin transaction).

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Quote from: AprilioMP on January 20, 2024, 10:21:12 AM

He wants to appear to have mastered the technical part, most likely, but if what he says can mislead other people who read it, of course people who don't really understand the wallet field will think what he says is true.

He wants to appear to have mastered but the problem is that he wasn't able because he didn't have an any amount of knowledge to at the very least check what the hell is the AI generated text talking about, if he knows something, then there wouldn't a be a thread like this that will talk about his issues. I guess this is also a call out to those people that want to talk about things, make sure that you know what you're talking about or you risk getting laughed at.

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Quote from: ABCbits on January 20, 2024, 08:40:32 AM

Quote from: ?? on ??

The sequence number in your input is set to 2147483648. This value might trigger some network-related behavior, especially when combined with RBF. You may want to experiment with different sequence numbers.

The topic ask about invalid script, which isn't related at all. Suggesting using different sequence is also irresponsible where someone could accidentally lock their coin for really long time.

It's also worth to mention this user is suspected of using AI on this post, https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63518321.

It definitely looks like he's just running his posts through ChatGPT. Although on an unrelated note, all my transactions have 00000000 locktime which disables it. If you have the time, do stop by in the thread to leave your advice about this as it would be appreciated.

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I was confused when I read his post about wallet.dat and its relationship to the Electrum wallet posted under NotATether's post. Yes, I don't want to comment on anything because I don't really understand the technical details of wallets.

He wants to appear to have mastered the technical part, most likely, but if what he says can mislead other people who read it, of course people who don't really understand the wallet field will think what he says is true.

ABCbits. Thank you for the explanation.
I think it's better to ask to know something than to make a wrong post.

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Quote from: nutildah on January 20, 2024, 09:51:12 AM

Based on Sapling's analysis, I probably wouldn't report that post in particular... It probably got a lower score because the last sentence starts with "I" (not typical of AI-generated posts -- he probably altered it a bit). But most of this account's posts are completely AI-generated. Let's take a look at the most obvious ones:

Quote from: ?? on ??

Congratulations on realizing your dream of opening your own bar! It's truly inspiring to see your perseverance and hard work pay off, especially after patiently waiting for the right opportunity. Your dad's support with the generous contribution of #2,000,000 is a fantastic boost, and it's wonderful that you've used it to set up your bar with a variety of drinks.

Using Bitcoin as a medium of payment for your business is a forward-thinking move, considering the increasing interest in cryptocurrency in your country. The picture you provided of the transaction from your dad, along with your BTC SegWit address and the settings of your bar, gives a clear insight into your journey.

I understand the concerns about high transaction fees and congestion in the mempool. It's a common challenge, but as the crypto space continues to evolve, we can hope for improvements in scalability solutions. In the meantime, offering both BTC and fiat payment options is a smart approach to cater to a broader customer base.

Wishing you tremendous success with your new venture in 2024! May your bar become a thriving hub for locals, and may you continue to grow and prosper in your business endeavors. If there's anything the community can do to support you or if you have updates to share, feel free to keep us posted. Cheers to a prosperous year ahead!

Wow, I would have ignored it as AI generated as I've forgotten you can ask it to look impressed or use any kind of emotion when writing a reply, and yeah , that text is basically what chatGPT gives you when copy pasting the OP story:

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I've been longing
~
please help wish me well in my new achievement for the year 2024.

Chatgpt:

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Congratulations on achieving your dream of opening your own bar! It's truly a significant accomplishment, and I wish you the very best in your new venture for the year 2024. Your determination and hard work in transforming the funds your dad provided into a furnished and equipped bar are commendable.

Using Bitcoin as a medium of payment is an innovative idea, especially considering the increasing interest in cryptocurrency in your country. While the high transaction fees and mempool congestion can be challenges, it's great that you've made provisions for your BTC address. As the cryptocurrency space evolves, solutions may emerge to address these issues, making Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies more accessible for everyday transactions.

It's essential to stay informed about the developments in the cryptocurrency space and adapt your business strategies accordingly. I hope your bar becomes a successful and popular establishment in your community, attracting patrons both in fiat and cryptocurrency.
Once again, congratulations on your achieve

Is it able to actually write good responses if you copy paste the first post and ask it to give a reply that looks human generated?
I'm going to have some fun later on asking it to write stuff that should not be detected as AI generated text!

But this case is still weird because AI usually give better advice than the ones posted in the technical support section.

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