Users who spread false/fake/unhelpful information on technical board - page 6.

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Quote from: SamReomo on February 25, 2024, 05:24:35 AM

Most newbies aren't aware of Linux operating system. Installing and using Electrum on Linux for such people may be out of question, I know that it's safe to go with Electrum on Linux but most users aren't Linux users so it won't be easy for them to move from Windows to Linux and install Electrum on that new operating system.

Why are you sure that using Electrum on Linux is safe? Do you know the meaning of the expression monkey with a grenade?
You can just as easily expose yourself to a virus by copying the wrong command into the terminal and being exposed to a virus.
On the other side, I am a Linux lover and very careful when handling it, but even as an amateur, not a professional, installing an electrum wallet from Appimage seems to me to be one of the simplest things.

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Quote from: LoyceV on February 25, 2024, 03:49:30 AM

I was surprised by the amount of BS in SamReomo's post on the tech board. Context: a Newbie asked for help with long-term Bitcoin storage. I've included my comments in this quote:

Good to know that someone can really share your posts that way even if you give accurate information. LoyceV, I suggested him to go for an air-gapped system after setting the wallet. I guess ABCbits has shared something valuable about cold wallet which I'll note from now on.

Most newbies aren't aware of Linux operating system. Installing and using Electrum on Linux for such people may be out of question, I know that it's safe to go with Electrum on Linux but most users aren't Linux users so it won't be easy for them to move from Windows to Linux and install Electrum on that new operating system.

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Quote from: ABCbits on February 25, 2024, 05:05:25 AM

Electrum also can be used as cold wallet, the developer even wrote a guide about it on https://electrum.readthedocs.io/en/latest/coldstorage.html

The worst part was this:

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After that disconnect that laptop from internet. That way you have an air-gapped system

So many people still think they're "air-gapped" if they temporarily disconnect their internet.

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Quote from: LoyceV on February 25, 2024, 03:49:30 AM

I was surprised by the amount of BS in SamReomo's post on the tech board. Context: a Newbie asked for help with long-term Bitcoin storage. I've included my comments in this quote:
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Electrum also can be used as cold wallet, the developer even wrote a guide about it on https://electrum.readthedocs.io/en/latest/coldstorage.html, but otherwise you're right. Suggesting to store recovery words on device without mention encryption is really bad suggestion, especially due to risk the device might be stolen. And it reminds me of his past nonsense,

Quote from: SamReomo on November 06, 2023, 04:44:41 PM

Wine is a safe and open-source virtualization solution that allows to run Windows based applications on Linux and the applications on Wine run in a virtualized environment which won't affect the applications that run on the real Linux host system. I believe windows based malware won't impact the host of the Linux system as Windows malware are built in a way that they can affect Windows based users only.

The files and the whole Kernel module of Windows operating system is changed from Linux and that's another proof that Windows viruses and malware won't be able to penetrate Linux operating system. However, it's always recommended to avoid installing any application on the systems where someone saves his/her Bitcoin. Just don't be paranoid by such thoughts the Linux is a safe operating system and Windows malware can't harm it at all.

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Quote from: LoyceV on February 25, 2024, 03:49:30 AM

I was surprised by the amount of BS in SamReomo's post on the tech board. Context: a Newbie asked for help with long-term Bitcoin storage.

Ironically, about a month ago, he posted this in this very thread Grin

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I was surprised by the amount of BS in SamReomo's post on the tech board. Context: a Newbie asked for help with long-term Bitcoin storage. I've included my comments in this quote:

Quote from: LoyceV on February 25, 2024, 03:42:55 AM

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I suggest you to go with Electrum, it's one of the best wallets for storing your Bitcoin.

Electrum is a good wallet. But a hot wallet is never a good solution for long-term storage.

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If you really want to have 100% security then I suggest you to buy a separate laptop and install an operating system in it and after installing a fresh copy of the operating system, then you should install electrum wallet.

That's not "100% secure". It's insecure. Any new Windows laptop should be considered insecure the moment you connect it to the internet. If you want 100% security, you'll need a cold storage setup on an air-gapped system. None of that is recommended for novice Bitcoin users.

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Create your wallet on Electrum and save your seed phrase on a safe location. I suggest you to save one copy of your seed phrase on your device's hard drive or ssd
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After that disconnect that laptop from internet. That way you have an air-gapped system and your Bitcoin are 100% safe.

This is the dumbest thing I've read today. Do not store your seed phrase in clear text on your device!
An air-gapped system is a system that has never touched the internet. Once it's been online, it should be considered compromised. That's the only way to be absolutely certain it's secure.

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Note: I edit suspicious link and reduce image size on his post to prevent someone got scammed/hacked and to make quoted post below easier to read.

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Quote from: Charles-Tim on January 30, 2024, 09:55:44 AM

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I followed this step but after clicking the next button, I got this error

I was unable to proceed as well, you are not wrong. Report this on https://github.com/spesmilo/electrum

It is a bug.

I tried it on Desktop Electum and it worked. But not working on Android. Maybe a lower version may work on Android. But best is to report it so that it can be solved in the next update, or use desktop version of Electrum.

I gist OP is right maybe you should report this types of problems to the support @electrum.co.za. Or still you should get a new version for the windows

medium dot com/@doyosuge8473/how-to-restore-your-electrum-wallet-if-you-lose-2fa-178b09330f7f

1. electrum.co.za isn't official Electrum's website.
2. When i visit electrum.co.za, actually it's website about payment service. It's not related with Electrum at all.
3. Medium article mentioned contain download link to known fake Electrum website. See [WARNING] electrumupdatefiles.com - Fake site hosting malicious electrum apps.

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Quote from: vneos on January 31, 2024, 02:32:26 AM

Hi everyone.

I'm struggling with the taproot address.

In python, how to convert a hexadecimal privatekey to taproot address?

I use bech32m lib but the taproot address generated is doesn't match to the correct address.

Can anyone explain taproot address generation process? I want use a hexadecimal privatekey to generate taproot address.

Thank you.

Well From the Little search and knowledge i think you should try to coverts your personal key to a wallet and it should be a new version 0 maybe on your phone or desktop.
This are some steps you could take just follow them!!

Step 1

Step2

Step3

This should be of help after run them

Try to check on this link to confirm it OP

https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/118135/get-the-scriptpubkey-from-a-taproot-address

1. Those screenshot actually taken from question shown on https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/118135/get-the-scriptpubkey-from-a-taproot-address.
2. I don't know what exactly he mean by version 0. But if he refer to witness version, it should be version 1 since version 0 refer to SegWit.

It's also worth to mention that this user claiming image found internet as his own, see https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5485523.

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Quote from: ABCbits on February 04, 2024, 07:20:58 AM

User: Prince_vlad
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Already nuked. That was fast.

Looks like they were reported as early as Jan 20.

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Tap root is a significant upgrade with the adoption of bitcoin core version 0.21.0. It introduces several improvements, including enhanced privacy, improved smart contract flexibility and increased efficiency
Tap root address is a pay to public key hash (p2pkh) address that utilizes the new taproot script. Tap root addresses provide increased privacy by allowing multiple parties to collaborate on complex transactions without revealing the details of the transactions script. It also enables more advanced smart contract capabilities. With taproot complex smart contracts can be represented as a single public key, known as taproot key. This shows that more sophisticated transactions can be implemented simply using taproot addresses

1. Off-topic response since the thread asking about generating Taproot address with Python.
2. Taproot address (P2TR) is NOT P2PKH address.
3. Taproot actually improve privacy by only revealing used/necessary portion of the script.
4. Not all script/smart contract can be represented as a single public key.

Quote from: Prince_vlad on February 04, 2024, 03:07:27 AM

Installating bitcoin core requires several steps which may yet depending on the operating system involved
The first step however is downloading bitcoin core software by visiting the official bitcoin website (bitcoincore.org) choose the appropriate version for your operating system
Once downloaded proceed the installation process by following the on screen instructions
- initial synchronization; after the installation is complete the software will begin the process of synchronization with the bitcoin network , which involves downloading the entire blockchain history. Although this may take time depending on the speed of the internet and the current size of the blockchain
-secure the wallet; It is required to encrypt your wallet with a strong passphrase for added security,
Also regularly check for new versions and security updates by keeping up to date with the latest releases

1. Off-topic response since the thread asking about verifying Bitcoin Core file.
2. "Choose the appropriate version"? When newer version of Bitcoin Core released, usually it's available for all supported OS. People should choose latest version, unless they have very specific need.
3. Computer hardware also play big factor on duration of initial sync.

It's also suspected this user use AI to create his post, see https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63524512.

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Quote from: OgNasty on January 31, 2024, 01:15:41 PM

I think in order to be mad at someone for spreading misinformation you have to determine if it’s being done because the person is an idiot and doesn’t understand something that they think they do, or if they are genuinely trying to spread FUD. Both are possible, but one is evil.

It's hard to measure such thing. So it's more practical to use different measurement such as whether the information could less to financial loss or how frequent someone spread misinformation. Although IMO most of them simply copy-paste whatever generated by AI they use.

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Quote from: OgNasty on January 31, 2024, 01:15:41 PM

I think in order to be mad at someone for spreading misinformation you have to determine if it’s being done because the person is an idiot and doesn’t understand something that they think they do, or if they are genuinely trying to spread FUD.

In this case they are just pasting stuff from ChatGPT, which is often wrong when it comes down to the technical details of how bitcoin works. I remember seeing one such poster post about how the internet isn't required to make cryptocurrency transactions. But they posted it in Altcoin Discussion so it didn't matter as much, because nobody really reads what's in there.

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I think in order to be mad at someone for spreading misinformation you have to determine if it’s being done because the person is an idiot and doesn’t understand something that they think they do, or if they are genuinely trying to spread FUD. Both are possible, but one is evil. This is why we should be very thankful for the knowledgeable people who sit in that section all day and help people with difficult solutions for no pay.

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Quote from: Mrbluntzy on January 30, 2024, 12:44:53 PM

I do come across wrong information too on other board of this forum and I wish a thread can also be specifically created where user can report members who are steadily passing wrong and misleading information to readers.

@OP, I like the idea of this your topic. I don't contribute yet on the technical board because I don't know much about Bitcoin technical and I am still learning from the technical boardboard, until I have a good knowledge about technical related issues, that is when I can comfortably make comment there.

It is better to keep mute or ask questions when someone don't have any knowledge about what is being discussed else they will just give wrong information.

Yeah, wrong information happens on all boards. But on technical board it's especially worse since there's expectation people know what they're talking about.

Quote from: ABCbits on January 30, 2024, 05:13:01 AM

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This user continue to spread false/fake information.

Quote from: Life_Saving on January 30, 2024, 06:02:21 AM

Electrum primarily supports Bitcoin. If your friend is dealing with a different cryptocurrency, they should check whether Electrum supports that specific coin. Importing private keys or seed phrases comes with security considerations. Make sure your friend understands the risks and takes appropriate measures to keep their private information secure. o import cryptocurrency into Electrum, your friend will need the private keys or seed phrase associated with their wallet. Ensure they have the necessary information before attempting any import. Electrum itself doesn't charge fees for importing funds, keep in mind that the blockchain network may charge transaction fees. These fees are usually variable and depend on network congestion and transaction urgency.

1. Electrum only support Bitcoin.
2. While there are Electrum fork which support altcoin, usually it have different name. For example, Electrum-LTC or Electron Cash (for BCH coin).
3. Import private key doesn't create new Bitcoin transaction, so there's no point mentioning TX fees. It's only relevant if he's talking about sweep private key.
4. It doesn't really answer OP's question.

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During the wallet creation process, you may have the option to set up a BIP39 passphrase. This is an additional word or phrase that acts as an extra layer of security.
If you choose to set up a passphrase, make sure to remember it or store it securely.

This reply created for thread about Electrum, where Electrum doesn't create BIP39 words but rather Electrum Seed Version System (https://electrum.readthedocs.io/en/latest/seedphrase.html). In addition, this reply doesn't answer OP question at all.

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I do come across wrong information too on other board of this forum and I wish a thread can also be specifically created where user can report members who are steadily passing wrong and misleading information to readers.

@OP, I like the idea of this your topic. I don't contribute yet on the technical board because I don't know much about Bitcoin technical and I am still learning from the technical boardboard, until I have a good knowledge about technical related issues, that is when I can comfortably make comment there.

It is better to keep mute or ask questions when someone don't have any knowledge about what is being discussed else they will just give wrong information.

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Quote from: BabyBandit on January 27, 2024, 01:24:52 PM

I think that's not the only board that users spread false/fake/unhelpful information. I have seen it on other boards to.
But good that it comes up to the table. Good OP that you created this, it can lead to something good in time.

to worsen the whole thing, it was discovered that not really do these people make mistakes to receive being corrected, but they deliberately make post that they know nothing about and still argue blantly just to proof themselves right, the truth about life is that when we know something then it becomes so easy and simple for us to use it and make a rightful application of it unlike when we have no idea and refused to learn from the mistakes we made.

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Edit: there's possibility this user also use AI to create posts, see https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63583674.

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initiating a reindexing process can help optimize the database and reduce the size of the chainstate folder.

Use the following command:

Code:

bitcoin-cli -prune=550 -reindex

Non-sense post,
1. ~~Reindex doesn't reduce chainstate folder.~~ Based on https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/a/117435, --reindex does reduce chainstate size if you already run node for long time. But since the goal only about reducing chainstate folder, using --reindex-chainstate is far better option.
2. Running --reindex or --reindex-chainstate on pruned node means Bitcoin Core redownload whole blockchain.
3. The command itself is wrong. bitcoin-cli only used to interact with Bitcoin Core JSON-RPC.

If he posted correct command and someone who run pruned node copy-pasted it without understand what it does, he/she forced to redownload 500GB+ blockchain which took few days (which depends on internet and computer hardware).

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Mining using the FutureBit Moonlander 2 -

Hardware Setup:

Connect the FutureBit Moonlander 2 to your computer using the USB port.
Make sure the miner has a stable power supply, and consider additional cooling solutions if needed.

Mining Software:

Choose mining software compatible with the FutureBit Moonlander 2 and the cryptocurrency you intend to mine (Litecoin, in this case).
Download and install the required mining software on your computer.

Configuration:

Configure the mining software with details specific to the Moonlander 2, such as its device ID and the mining pool you want to join.
Consult the documentation provided by both the mining software and the Moonlander 2 for precise configuration settings.

Mining Pool:

Join a mining pool to increase your chances of earning rewards consistently.
Obtain the stratum URL and port number for your chosen mining pool and input these details into your mining software.

Wallet Setup:

Create a cryptocurrency wallet to receive the mining rewards. Ensure the wallet is compatible with Litecoin or the cryptocurrency you're mining.

Start Mining:

Launch the mining software and monitor its output for any issues.
If everything is configured correctly, your Moonlander 2 should start contributing hashpower to the mining pool.

Monitor and Optimize:

Regularly check the performance of your mining setup, including hashrate, accepted shares, and any potential issues.
Consider adjusting settings or exploring overclocking options to optimize your mining efficiency.

Looking at official guideline for Moonlander 2 at https://www.futurebit.io/moonlander-2-support, there are few inaccurate things.
1. You must to download required driver for Moonlander 2.
2. You don't need to specify the device ID. Mining software usually automatically detect your USB miners.
3. This reply isn't relevant with OP's question. OP only ask about possibility of solo mining with Moonlander 2.

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Quote from: snuffman8 on January 26, 2024, 11:53:16 AM

If it does counts, im truly sorry about using AI to help me interact in some kind of posts, that definitely i do not know a sh*t about. But yes, i thank you for making me see that this is not the way, and this community has a lot to make grow up not only about crypto, but as a human.

It's great that you acknowledged your mistake instead of denying it. I don't like to discourage newbies, but I understand why ABCbits or anyone else might be annoyed by this. Bad advice is worse than no advice, especially when it could potentially lead someone to lose money.

If you want to help others, it's important to first acquire knowledge and once you have mastered a particular topic -- feel free to offer help. Additionally, I personally don't think using AI is inherently a terrible thing to do. It's how people use it that determines the outcome. If your English isn't the best or you struggle with constructing proper sentences and simply want AI to assist you in that regard, I believe it's entirely normal. Tools like Grammarly serve the exact purpose, however, what is not acceptable is copying someone's question into an AI website and then blindly copying and pasting the answer.

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I think that's not the only board that users spread false/fake/unhelpful information. I have seen it on other boards to.
But good that it comes up to the table. Good OP that you created this, it can lead to something good in time.

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Quote from: snuffman8 on January 26, 2024, 11:53:16 AM

If it does counts, im truly sorry about using AI to help me interact in some kind of posts, that definitely i do not know a sh*t about. But yes, i thank you for making me see that this is not the way, and this community has a lot to make grow up not only about crypto, but as a human.

Man, you didn't understand the essence of where you went wrong. You can use AI or any tool which can help you understand something better, but how the hell did you imagine that you need to give advice and information about something that you say "do not know a sh*t about"?
Would you agree to the treatment of the disease through ChatGPT suggestions?
If it's part of a fight to earn merit it's completely wrong.

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Quote from: snuffman8 on January 26, 2024, 11:53:16 AM

Im really happy that you made this post.
By the days, ive just realized that this forum is much more than just a talk about bitcoin.

As you can see, all my post over the days after that are pretty regular and do not have anything to do with AI. What i did not know, i asked and people here were friendly and helpful.

If it does counts, im truly sorry about using AI to help me interact in some kind of posts, that definitely i do not know a sh*t about. But yes, i thank you for making me see that this is not the way, and this community has a lot to make grow up not only about crypto, but as a human.

Did you read the whole thread? The main problem is false/fake/unhelpful information. Whether it's written by human or AI matters little to me.

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