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Topic: [utIpCO] CurrenSky ■ Backed up by Real Estate=Generating behoof to its users - page 3. (Read 5973 times)

legendary
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This is not first time coin says "backed" be real estate, nice try scam devs LOL!

GTFO.
member
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Here are the UTIPCO details


  • Start Date :
     15th Ferbruary 2017 @20:00CET

  • Number of CUR3 on pre-sale (tokens) :
     45 000 000 (minus the few already sold)

  • Pricing :
    1 CUR3 @ 1.01€ total 1M
    1 CUR3 @ 1.02€ total 1.5M
    1 CUR3 @ 1.03€ total 2.5M
    1 CUR3 @ 1.04€ total 5M
    1 CUR3 @ 1.06€ total 10M
    1 CUR3 @ 1.08€ total 25M

  • Minimum goal :
     5 000 000 CUR3, once reached (and only) we launch 90days countdown to UTIPCO closure
  • Estimation of work to be done before official launch @ 5M CUR3 :
     6 months (not including the 90 days of closure)
  • Estimation of work to be done before official launch  @ 8M CUR3 :
     4 months (not including the 90 days of closure)
  • Estimation of work to be done before official launch  @ 10M CUR3 :
     3 months (not including the 90 days of closure)
  • Estimation of work to be done before official launch  @ >15M CUR3 :
     2 months (not including the 90 days of closure)


  • Number of mining packages type 1 on pre-sale :
    10 @ 101€
    20 @ 102€
    30 @ 103€
    40 @ 104€
    50 @ 106€
    100 @ 108€
    =250
    Each package includes 100CUR3 and the limit of 1 Th/s
    /!\ Warning : We do NOT provide this hashing power, you will need to use your own hardware/electricity/internet connexion
    Conditions :
     You CANNOT move your CUR3 from your wallet
    or it cancels the rights of the package meaning that your hashing power won't mine anymore.
     You will be able to mine from the first Wave
     CurrenSky hashing power won't exceed 500Th/s
     Total network hasing power would reach a maximum of 750Th/s

  • Number of mining packages type 2 on pre-sale :
    20 @ 102€
    40 @ 103€
    60 @ 104€
    80 @ 105€
    100 @ 108€
    200 @ 109€
    =500
    Each package includes 100CUR3 and the limit of 1 Th/s
    /!\ Warning : We do NOT provide this hashing power, you will need to use your own hardware/electricity/internet connexion
    Conditions :
     You CANNOT move your CUR3 from your wallet
    or it cancels the rights of the package meaning that your hashing power won't mine anymore.
     /!\You will be able to mine from the second Wave fully financed
     CurrenSky hashing power won't exceed 1000Th/s
     Total network hasing power would reach a maximum of 1750Th/s

  • Gentle reminder of our white paper :

    For the first 2 financed Waves
    The team commits to not use the dominance of its power to manipulate/attack the network and the market.


    After the first 2 financed waves and for the next 10 financed Waves
    Each wave will count on a limited number of lottery package to buy to be able to have a chance to access to mining power following a strict ruled growth.

    Package details : 250CUR3 for 10Th/s

    After the first 12 financed waves and for the next 6 Waves
    Each wave will count on a limited number of standard package to buy to be able to access to mining power following a strict ruled growth.

    Package details : 500CUR3 for 20Th/s

    After the first 18 financed waves and for the next 6 Waves
    Each wave will count on an unlimited number of standard package to buy to be able to access to mining power following a strict ruled growth.

    Package details : 1000CUR3 for 50Th/s

    After the first 24 financed waves and for the next 24 financed Waves
    Each wave will count on an unlimited number of standard package to buy to be able to access to mining power following a strict ruled growth.

    Package details : 2500CUR3 for 200Th/s

    For all these packages, the "do not move your CUR3 to not lose your mining right" rule will also apply

  • Wave details :
    The first 2 Waves to finance will depend on the end of the UTIPCO.
    The higher goes the UTIPCO, the lower the first 2 Waves.

  • Means of payment :
    We are working with coinpayments.net and thank to them we selected 20 crypto currencies to purchase a CUR3 during the ICO, this includes BTC/LTC/ETH/XMR/ZEC... (Details here)

  • Escrow :
     We are not providing any escrow system.
     On the other hand, we finaly come with a proposal.
     We are open to meet in real life up to 5 people in a public place in Switzerland or in France during the UTIPCO.
    Our conditions :
     This/These people have to pay for our CEO trip to the concerned place back and forth (from Lausanne in Switzerland).

  • Escrow++ :
     We are open to meet in real life up to 5 people in a public place in Switzerland or in France during the UTIPCO and to go to a notary of the choice of these people to certify with the identity of the CEO as the CEO of CurrenSky and his responsibilities of the entire project.
    Our conditions :
     This/These people have to pay for our CEO trip to the concerned place back and forth (from Lausanne in Switzerland).
     In addition and before the trip, the public has to transfer to 1PYqJWPF2P5MD77PWu99AjziXvvbA4RCM7 5 BTC to cover the costs of such a procedure.


Many thanks for your attention and patience

Next message from the team :
First marketing vision for the launch.

Next +1 :
Incoming updates on the portal of CurrenSky.com before UTIPCO

member
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We are looking for business partners!
You can validate at least one of the below facts (with proof) :

  • You own and run on your own a company with a consequent (>100 000€) real estate asset on permanent renting with a >7% net revenue in USA/France/UK/Spain/Portugal/Germany/Italy/China
    AND you want to turn it into CUR3 with a close partnership
  • You live in China/India/Venezuela and you have a consequent (>100 000€) amount of money out of the country AND ready to invest
    AND you want to turn it into CUR3 with a close partnership
  • You are a successful serial entrepreneur (>3 businesses) and have a great social network in banking and/or blockchain
    AND you want to get directly and actively involved in CurrenSky adventure
  • You are working in finance and/or banking and you want to propose a new service/deal through a notable bank and you have the social network to achieve this task
    AND you want to get directly and actively involved in CurrenSky adventure
  • You are a business angel
    AND you want to get directly and actively involved in CurrenSky adventure

Then contact us HERE !



Next message from the team :
UTIPCO details.

Next +1 :
First marketing vision for the launch.

Next +2 :
Incoming updates on the portal of CurrenSky.com before UTIPCO
member
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Hi everyone!

We are excited to announce you that we've made our decision.

This is going to generate a lot of noisy replies but as we deeply know that this concept is made to work, we will stick to it.

We are proud to annouce you another IPCO!

We th(/f)ought and discussed a lot on the way we are going to operate, we ended on an agreement.


  • First :
    To be fair, we are accepting every request of refund of the first wave via our webform from now until the launch of the next IPCO(Yes, we still consider it as Initial because no fund has been used yet), precising your Transaction ID and Verification code.
    To do so, if you purchased using a BTC address, please provide us with the original BTC address and the new BTC address to use to refund you.
    If you used Paypal, kindly precise the email address you used to create your paypal account (which of course has to be the same used to purchase CUR3 token).
    We will refund the amount as paid at the moment of transaction (/!\ MINUS related FEEs, if applicable, if there was no fee then you will be fully refunded)
    If you don't request for a refund, then your token will still be valid.
  • Second :
    We are launching on the 15th of february 2017 what we would like to call an Unlimited in Time Initial Public Coin Offering -> UTIPCO
  • Third :
    We plan to be way more marketing agressive during the UTIPCO, we are full of ideas, this is one of our powers
  • Potential fourth (We still discuss about it) :
    We are going, in parallel, to remake our initial Business Plan to be more detailed, and be in a position to be able to deal directly with banks, after all, this could be another service that banks can provide to customers.
    (We really wanted to avoid bank companies/groups as it induces an apparent non autonomy for CurrenSky and for the public an intrinsic psychological link between CurrenSky and bank system, while Crypto Currencies in general, in our opinion, is in direct conflict of interest)
    If you want to developp/discuss about this point here with us, please feel free ; there is a huge work to do on our base mentality and vision.
    We value your opinion, no joke, CurrenSky won't exist without you.

Again, thank you for your precious patience.

Next message from the team :
Proposition for business partnership.

Next +1 :
UTIPCO details.

Next +2 :
First marketing vision for the launch.

Next +3 :
Incoming updates on the portal of CurrenSky.com before UTIPCO
member
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We didn't forget you guys, we are getting closer to the next steps : We are only working on the last few details.
More to come soon.
member
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Better get some aloe vera ready if you invest here because the burns will sting.

WARNED!

Hello Bemerand,

Thank you for keeping on following CurrenSky.
We like aloe vera as well.  Cheesy

If we succeed in funding properly (and so launch the project for real), we will be happy to send you some aloe vera gifts to thank you for your really positive attitude.  Wink

Thank you again
hero member
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Better get some aloe vera ready if you invest here because the burns will sting.

WARNED!
member
Activity: 67
Merit: 10
How much fund you have raised?

Hello lsqgoddess,

It doesn't really serve us to answer but we said that one of our biggest quality was transparency.  Wink
CurrenSky on its first IPCO raised less than 10BTC in total (Most of it coming from the team/families)Undecided

We don't lose our determination, it just gets harder to advance and we know that we cannot launch the project without a decent start.
For the exact amount to fund as a minimum and all the related details, we are going to communicate it in our coming update (We have still have a lot to do before).

Thank you for your interest in CurrenSky
full member
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How much fund you have raised?
member
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Merit: 10
Any update from the dev,the ico is almost over but he should posted us a lot of updates going through the end of ico,the plan is very interesting and quite different from the other coin but dev is missing in action when he should be up and running.
You don't seriously believe this bullshit do you?
Backed up by international real estate, its rentings will generate interests to its users
I couldn't stop laughing after I read that tidbit of bullshit.

One day something like this will pop up and it will be legit, Its just not that day yet.


that day will not certain that which will be one that any how hope for the best

Hello Addison Adley,

We are really sorry to say that we didn't understand this sentence.
member
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I suggest you try Bittrex or Yobit ICO.I have seen some of good projects failed to collect funds through crowdsale have opt for exchange ICO.You can promote your project here with this ANN thread or Signature campaign during ICO

Hello DomainMagnate,

Thank you for your suggestions.
We cannot fit the Bittrex/Yobit requirements.

On the other hand, we will consider the idea of a signature campaign.

Moreover, we are thinking on restarting partly the ICO with the possibility for late (previous ICO) purchaser to migrate their purchase to less expensive one (and for this, we still need to study the best way to do it).
Because of course it is not fair for people who bought @1.08€ to see the ICO restarted @1.04 right?
We are going to add transparency by showing the stock available for each price.

We are also going to remove the Paypal option (after thinking about it, we are afraid that they could block it due to the cryptocurrency "ennemy number one" nature...) and when we look at final results, it was not the biggest payment mean used.
We plan to create a more aggressive marketing campaign (we have more than 3.3k of like on FB while on Twitter it seems we don't reach properly our niche with less than 50(!) followers).

The escrow system is still under study (!), we are closer to it as we might think to use one by requesting a credit to a bank/investor/business angel by using the proof from this escrow.
The problem of it now for us to solve is that for a bank it looks like a conflict of interest and for an investor/business angel the ROI (even if certified) is too low (as we know that it might only result in a few percent of interests).

The initial post will be edited to add more details (Estimated advancement in percentage of all the tasks/Minimum capital needed to make it happen/etc...).

We are going to reply here again to provide more details as well.




There are no secrets to success. It is the result of preparation, hard work, and learning from failure.
hero member
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I suggest you try Bittrex or Yobit ICO.I have seen some of good projects failed to collect funds through crowdsale have opt for exchange ICO.You can promote your project here with this ANN thread or Signature campaign during ICO
member
Activity: 67
Merit: 10
I don't like your answers. And who does an unlimited time ico. hat impossible anyway. Goodbye.

Hello Bemerand,

We are sorry to understand that you weren't able to propose an escrow to fit our needs.
We didn't understand "hat impossible anyway."  Huh

Anyway thank you for your followup and feedbacks.
We wish you a good continuation.

Its a typo. That's impossible anyway.

If you want to use a real escrow contact Sebestian Ju on the forums and ask him to act as the escrow. Can you work with that proposal?

Ok, so basically you want Sebestian Ju and the team to :
  • Create the companies under his name in the different first few countries
  • Purchase the asset with these companies (so under his name)
  • Ask him to transfer to the team the renting money during the whole preparation (so during a few months before official launch)
  • On the day of official launch do the transfer of ownership of the companies, the rights, ect
...?

It looks pretty complicated and a bit risky.
I (Anthony) will talk about it with the team.

We confirm that for many reasons, some obvious and others, we cannot accept such way of working.
We are still open to any other solution as we are still studying our next move.

Thank you
member
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I don't like your answers. And who does an unlimited time ico. hat impossible anyway. Goodbye.

Hello Bemerand,

We are sorry to understand that you weren't able to propose an escrow to fit our needs.
We didn't understand "hat impossible anyway."  Huh

Anyway thank you for your followup and feedbacks.
We wish you a good continuation.

Its a typo. That's impossible anyway.

If you want to use a real escrow contact Sebestian Ju on the forums and ask him to act as the escrow. Can you work with that proposal?

Ok, so basically you want Sebestian Ju and the team to :
  • Create the companies under his name in the different first few countries
  • Purchase the asset with these companies (so under his name)
  • Ask him to transfer to the team the renting money during the whole preparation (so during a few months before official launch)
  • On the day of official launch do the transfer of ownership of the companies, the rights, ect
...?

It looks pretty complicated and a bit risky.
I (Anthony) will talk about it with the team.
hero member
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Merit: 500
I don't like your answers. And who does an unlimited time ico. hat impossible anyway. Goodbye.

Hello Bemerand,

We are sorry to understand that you weren't able to propose an escrow to fit our needs.
We didn't understand "hat impossible anyway."  Huh

Anyway thank you for your followup and feedbacks.
We wish you a good continuation.

Its a typo. That's impossible anyway.

If you want to use a real escrow contact Sebestian Ju on the forums and ask him to act as the escrow. Can you work with that proposal?
member
Activity: 67
Merit: 10
I don't like your answers. And who does an unlimited time ico. hat impossible anyway. Goodbye.

Hello Bemerand,

We are sorry to understand that you weren't able to propose an escrow to fit our needs.
We didn't understand "hat impossible anyway."  Huh

Anyway thank you for your followup and feedbacks.
We wish you a good continuation.

If you are at trouble to get funds, you can scale it to a minimal value. Buy one property, rent and continue from there. Goodluck.

Hello cryptospreader_temp,

We already thought about this but we concluded that:
The gap between the charges for the team to launch CurrenSky and the renting needs would be too big.

We have obvious fund needs for buying the asset which is the highest need.
But there are a lot of "hidden" charges like:
  • We still need full time work of the whole team and need to hire others
  • We have a huge legal work
  • We need to ensure the stability of the network from the very beginning and in our concept we want to have at least 3 mini-mines (a few machines on each site) as at the beginning the "mining" will be on "invitation" (lottery way, for more information please consult the pseudo-white paper on our website Wink )
  • We have as well to work to compensate the difference between 1 CUR3 bought during ICO as after official launch it will be worth more (basically keep and use a part of the renting to fulfill the difference during the whole official launch preparation) and we cannot launch CurrenSky if all the CUR3 are not worth the right and exact same value
  • Other known (and unknown) specificities



We will update soon within the next days on the status of CurrenSky, the Team and the choice for the future of its funding.
Thank you for your patience
sr. member
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I don't like your answers. And who does an unlimited time ico. hat impossible anyway. Goodbye.

Hello Bemerand,

We are sorry to understand that you weren't able to propose an escrow to fit our needs.
We didn't understand "hat impossible anyway."  Huh

Anyway thank you for your followup and feedbacks.
We wish you a good continuation.

If you are at trouble to get funds, you can scale it to a minimal value. Buy one property, rent and continue from there. Goodluck.
member
Activity: 67
Merit: 10
I don't like your answers. And who does an unlimited time ico. hat impossible anyway. Goodbye.

Hello Bemerand,

We are sorry to understand that you weren't able to propose an escrow to fit our needs.
We didn't understand "hat impossible anyway."  Huh

Anyway thank you for your followup and feedbacks.
We wish you a good continuation.
hero member
Activity: 532
Merit: 500
I don't like your answers. And who does an unlimited time ico. hat impossible anyway. Goodbye.
member
Activity: 67
Merit: 10
Wow, hello there.

We are deeply sorry to see that we received NO notifications for all these replies and as this post was on low activity we couldn't imagine that much activity during these "fiesta" days...

I (Anthony) fastly read your comment, as they are a few, we will try to answer within the next 24h to most of them.

But, as a synthesis, I read somewhere that one (a few?) of you thinks that it's still a scam or it is dead.
Well, it is still NOT a scam and this is still NOT dead.

The ICO didn't have the success planned, we are currently thinking about either continue but find another way of funding, or refund the people who invested.
In that very last choice of refunding: some did invested in Bitcoin (we will find a way) and others using Paypal (these are easier to refund).
FYI, No other cc has been used.

We really think that project is one of the future CCs on the top of the board.

If it was a scam, we would already run away with that money...

NB : We don't understand why we had no notification for these replies, again sorry.

Do a proper 1-2 month ico, with escrows and you may find better results.

Hello Bemerand,

We are considering in relaunching another ICO, unlimited on time.
Why unlimited on time?
Because the only solution might be to limit only on supply to be able to reach the very high goal needed.
More informations to come soon.
On the other hand knowing that:
  • We (the team) need a few months after ICO to launch CurrenSky officially
  • Escrow system keeps money until the service is delivered
  • We need the money to purchase the first properties
  • We need a part of the first few months of renting of these properties to support the team/charges/ect
Do you propose an escrow solution that can handle our needs?


Any update from the dev,the ico is almost over but he should posted us a lot of updates going through the end of ico,the plan is very interesting and quite different from the other coin but dev is missing in action when he should be up and running.
You don't seriously believe this bullshit do you?
Backed up by international real estate, its rentings will generate interests to its users
I couldn't stop laughing after I read that tidbit of bullshit.

One day something like this will pop up and it will be legit, Its just not that day yet.

Unfortunately, for all new very different concept, it is never the right day.
With enough support from the public, we can all do it.



......

Dead?
If it isn't already it should be.  Why do people even bother with these scams?

Hello scam_exposer,

We clearly don't think we should stop this project.
This is not a scam, but of course, it is what every scammer would say, so we are not going to answer to this kind of charge anymore it is pointless until the official launch/proof.

Any update from the dev,the ico is almost over but he should posted us a lot of updates going through the end of ico,the plan is very interesting and quite different from the other coin but dev is missing in action when he should be up and running.
You don't seriously believe this bullshit do you?
Backed up by international real estate, its rentings will generate interests to its users
I couldn't stop laughing after I read that tidbit of bullshit.

Reading this reaction, we think that maybe the explanations are not clear enough.
So let's try to re explain it :
  • You buy 1 CUR3, CurrenSky team receives the money you used to buy this CUR3, let's say 1.xy USD.
  • This 1.xy USD is used to buy a part of an appartment, it is basicaly like a share.
  • This appartment is rented by people.
  • This renting is used by CurrenSky team to reinvest in another property and so on.
  • Once re-invested, new CUR3 based on the equivalent of money (minus taxes) will be delivered in the wallets.
  • You own a wallet with 1 CUR3, so you will receive after every cycle, the equivalent of your share on these properties.
  • It means that after one cycle (called wave) you will have 1.0000abcd CUR3



good project but I miss

Hello 2017 coin,

Thank you for your support.
Stay plugged, we are still on the need of funding so price-tag might be still in your favor soon if we re-open the ICO.




Any update from the dev,the ico is almost over but he should posted us a lot of updates going through the end of ico,the plan is very interesting and quite different from the other coin but dev is missing in action when he should be up and running.

Hello aioc,

We are really sorry for this lack of communication, we haven't been professional enough.
The period of the year didn't help.
But no excuse, we will improve that as much as possible.






@all, we come back here very soon to provide more information on the current status.
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