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September 14, 2017, 12:18:22 PM
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT

At UTRUST our main goal is to build the best blockchain payment platform in the world. In line with this, we take feedback from both, our community, and legal regulatory counsel, very seriously.

With this feedback in mind, we have decided to postpone the ICO date and to change the ICO structure in the interests of clarity and fairness to our investors.

After careful consideration, we will no longer offer 7 rounds with different pricing levels. Instead, we will only offer 1 investment round at a fixed price of $0.065 per UTRUST token. A maximum of 50 Million U.S. Dollars will be collected over a maximum of 7 days, making this model end much faster than the original structure.

Also, due to regulatory and legal advice, the UTRUST public ICO date has been temporarily postponed and the new date will be announced in the first week of October, together with exciting new information regarding advisors and confirmed exchanges.

We thank you wholeheartedly for your support, and for believing in UTRUST!

Please join our live-stream AMA Friday, 15th September at 1 PM GMT on Reddit. Instructions to access it will be on our website shortly.

If you have any questions I am here to answer them on Bitcoin Talk, Reddit, Slack and Telegram.

All the best,
The UTRUST Team



so , its mean just for 7 days ico right ?
and for maximum 50M usd
so, are u have minimum goal for ICO ?

With the change on structure of ICO, What happen with unsold tokens?

Only sold tokens will be issued. If investors buy only 500 million, this will be the total supply.
In this case - the price of the token on the market will increase.


so u mean unsold token will burned right ?
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September 14, 2017, 10:43:52 AM
With the change on structure of ICO, What happen with unsold tokens?

Only sold tokens will be issued. If investors buy only 500 million, this will be the total supply.
In this case - the price of the token on the market will increase.

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September 14, 2017, 09:44:47 AM
With the change on structure of ICO, What happen with unsold tokens?
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September 14, 2017, 09:12:26 AM
Anybody wants a refund? Or everyone is happy?

If you want your money back please pm me.

Regards
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September 14, 2017, 03:19:30 AM
Hi azmojo!

We do not offer refunds at this point, but why would you like one in the first place? Pre-ICO investors are in a better position now that they were before. I personally invested into the UTRUST ICO as well and the average price will now be slightly higher than it would have been. Since only 100m would have been sold at 8.5 cents this would not have meant that the price on the exchanges is going to be 8.5 cents either.
Changing the deal after receiving payment is dirty and poor business whether you perceive it to be "better" or not. It's a matter of principal and good business practice.
The Pre-ICO tokens were offered with the initial structure which both parties agreed to at time of purchase.
Now, one party (UTrust), has changed the deal.
In basic contract law this is not allowed and the offer and acceptance of the Pre-ICO offerings constitutes a contract. If one party is going to unilaterally change the contract, the other party should be offered a chance to exit the agreement (i.e., refund). It is unclear if anyone would take it but it should be offered nonetheless.
It's just good business.
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September 14, 2017, 02:21:36 AM
Very bad:
+ Pre ICO $0.03 but ICO $0.065.
Pre ICO investers will dump it.

You better keep ICO price from 0.04 ~ 0.08.

+ I read whitepaper, only idea, there is no working process.

I'll skip this ICO.

$0.065 it's a price from 0.04 ~ 0.08.
Pre sale it's always cheaper. It is a form of bonus for early investors. As in 99% ICO.

If your read whitepapers, you know they have huge, professional and real team? https://utrust.io/team

Pre-Sale should be at most 20%-30% cheaper than ICO. it makes no sense that ICO price is 117% higher than Pre-ICO.

Pre-Sale was only $1.5m. ICO will be ~ $45.5m.
Remember earlier prices in rounds:
Round 3 - $0.06
Round 4 - $0.07
Round 5 - $0.075
Round 6 - $0.08
Round 7 - $0.085

In such a solution, the fixed price offered is still attractive.

From Slack (Nuno):

"We did't raise the price. In the previous model first round was starting with $0.04, by the last round the price per token was $0.085 and the max cap was $50 Million. In the new model there is only one round with a price of $0.065 and the max cap is $49 Million."
"Imagine that the moment you participated the price was already on $0.08. Would it be fair to you? We have thousands of registered users and potencial participants. Hundreds of emails regarding this. We believe that the community is happier now. We didn't raise the cap like many ICOs have done. In fact with this model the max cap is $49 Million. (Previous model was $50 Million)."
" I'm confidant that the price per token is fair at $0.065 and this won't be something that will make a difference in a long run."
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September 14, 2017, 01:42:03 AM
Very bad:
+ Pre ICO $0.03 but ICO $0.065.
Pre ICO investers will dump it.

You better keep ICO price from 0.04 ~ 0.08.

+ I read whitepaper, only idea, there is no working process.

I'll skip this ICO.

$0.065 it's a price from 0.04 ~ 0.08.
Pre sale it's always cheaper. It is a form of bonus for early investors. As in 99% ICO.

If your read whitepapers, you know they have huge, professional and real team? https://utrust.io/team

Pre-Sale should be at most 20%-30% cheaper than ICO. it makes no sense that ICO price is 117% higher than Pre-ICO.
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September 14, 2017, 01:31:22 AM
$0.065 it's a price from 0.04 ~ 0.08.
No. I mean: Tier 1: $0.04, Tier 2: $0.05...as originally planned.
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September 14, 2017, 01:22:30 AM
If you are going to change the structure of the ICO you need to offer refunds to those who have participated. I participated believing the structure was what it used to be, now you have changed it and it is not as good since it is worth only .065 instead of .085 at the end. Or, you could offer an extra bonus to the pre-ICO to make up for it. But bending over those who have already participated is not a good start.

Hi azmojo!

We do not offer refunds at this point, but why would you like one in the first place? Pre-ICO investors are in a better position now that they were before. I personally invested into the UTRUST ICO as well and the average price will now be slightly higher than it would have been. Since only 100m would have been sold at 8.5 cents this would not have meant that the price on the exchanges is going to be 8.5 cents either.

Very bad:
+ Pre ICO $0.03 but ICO $0.065.
Pre ICO investers will dump it.

You better keep ICO price from 0.04 ~ 0.08.

+ I read whitepaper, only idea, there is no working process.

I'll skip this ICO.

That'd be incorrect. While a small amount tokens (only 50 million) were sold at $0.03, the remaining 700m (!) will have a price of 6.5 cents. Even if some of the pre-ICO investors would sell it, it's a drop in the bucket ($1.5m into a bucket of $45.5m).

I hope this clarifies things!
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September 13, 2017, 11:48:02 PM
Very bad:
+ Pre ICO $0.03 but ICO $0.065.
Pre ICO investers will dump it.

You better keep ICO price from 0.04 ~ 0.08.

+ I read whitepaper, only idea, there is no working process.

I'll skip this ICO.

$0.065 it's a price from 0.04 ~ 0.08.
Pre sale it's always cheaper. It is a form of bonus for early investors. As in 99% ICO.

If your read whitepapers, you know they have huge, professional and real team? https://utrust.io/team
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September 13, 2017, 08:41:03 PM
Very bad:
+ Pre ICO $0.03 but ICO $0.065.
Pre ICO investers will dump it.

You better keep ICO price from 0.04 ~ 0.08.

+ I read whitepaper, only idea, there is no working process.

I'll skip this ICO.
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September 13, 2017, 08:10:50 PM
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT

At UTRUST our main goal is to build the best blockchain payment platform in the world. In line with this, we take feedback from both, our community, and legal regulatory counsel, very seriously.

With this feedback in mind, we have decided to postpone the ICO date and to change the ICO structure in the interests of clarity and fairness to our investors.

After careful consideration, we will no longer offer 7 rounds with different pricing levels. Instead, we will only offer 1 investment round at a fixed price of $0.065 per UTRUST token. A maximum of 50 Million U.S. Dollars will be collected over a maximum of 7 days, making this model end much faster than the original structure.

Also, due to regulatory and legal advice, the UTRUST public ICO date has been temporarily postponed and the new date will be announced in the first week of October, together with exciting new information regarding advisors and confirmed exchanges.

We thank you wholeheartedly for your support, and for believing in UTRUST!

Please join our live-stream AMA Friday, 15th September at 1 PM GMT on Reddit. Instructions to access it will be on our website shortly.

If you have any questions I am here to answer them on Bitcoin Talk, Reddit, Slack and Telegram.

All the best,
The UTRUST Team

What will you do if people will stop invest money in further rounds with increased price?
ie: if round 3 of 7 wasn't sold out already.. will you just increase the price and start empty round 4 or there is another plan?

I guess the above announcement answers your question? 👍
If you are going to change the structure of the ICO you need to offer refunds to those who have participated. I participated believing the structure was what it used to be, now you have changed it and it is not as good since it is worth only .065 instead of .085 at the end. Or, you could offer an extra bonus to the pre-ICO to make up for it. But bending over those who have already participated is not a good start.
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September 13, 2017, 06:35:05 PM
Thanks god , you are turning back from your mistake it was really an awful idea to make round ico. Utrust will be huge with this new decision.
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September 13, 2017, 03:17:27 PM
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT

At UTRUST our main goal is to build the best blockchain payment platform in the world. In line with this, we take feedback from both, our community, and legal regulatory counsel, very seriously.

With this feedback in mind, we have decided to postpone the ICO date and to change the ICO structure in the interests of clarity and fairness to our investors.

After careful consideration, we will no longer offer 7 rounds with different pricing levels. Instead, we will only offer 1 investment round at a fixed price of $0.065 per UTRUST token. A maximum of 50 Million U.S. Dollars will be collected over a maximum of 7 days, making this model end much faster than the original structure.

Also, due to regulatory and legal advice, the UTRUST public ICO date has been temporarily postponed and the new date will be announced in the first week of October, together with exciting new information regarding advisors and confirmed exchanges.

We thank you wholeheartedly for your support, and for believing in UTRUST!

Please join our live-stream AMA Friday, 15th September at 1 PM GMT on Reddit. Instructions to access it will be on our website shortly.

If you have any questions I am here to answer them on Bitcoin Talk, Reddit, Slack and Telegram.

All the best,
The UTRUST Team

What will you do if people will stop invest money in further rounds with increased price?
ie: if round 3 of 7 wasn't sold out already.. will you just increase the price and start empty round 4 or there is another plan?

I guess the above announcement answers your question? 👍
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September 13, 2017, 01:59:12 PM
What will you do if people will stop invest money in further rounds with increased price?
ie: if round 3 of 7 wasn't sold out already.. will you just increase the price and start empty round 4 or there is another plan?
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September 13, 2017, 11:12:01 AM
Navigating the site, do the team responsible for the project have Brazilians participating? Or are they Portuguese? Anyway, I expect it to happen as the roadmap
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September 13, 2017, 09:20:49 AM
How is going the ICO, how much did you collect as of now ?

$2,000,000 from private investors (sold out)
$1,500,000 from pre-ICO (sold out)

We look forward to the first round of the ICO.
Round 1 starts 20th September 2017, 2pm GMT

So total amount would be 3.5 million dollars? That's very good amount.
I believe ICO will be very successful. If pre-ICO collected amount is that big there's no reason for ICO to fail.
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September 13, 2017, 04:13:08 AM
I tried to read the FAQs but couldn't , not sure what happened to your site

The problem has already been reported to the team. The techies will check!

Fixed! You can try again.
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