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hero member
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VanityPool still lists 1Private but refuses to accept solutions (one of my rig found the solution and all of the ones I pointed at VanityPool tried to submit new ones several times).

I am sorry to hear that. Did you double check that the solution is correct? There have been cases of the miner coming up with incorrect answers. You can check your answer here: gobittest.appspot.com .

I will look into the issue.
I don't have traces left, but I got paid for 3 solutions yesterday and I think one of them was 1Private (at least it was shown accepted in the miner's output).
sr. member
Activity: 444
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Except that total BTC per GKey for miners will be lower, because miners need to keep hashing to get whole reward; although that user don't care about next results. But it was just an idea and I understand it may be a bit tricky to implement.

Hmm, I guess you are right. The apparent reward would be twice as big in your scenario.

I guess I might implement it down the road as some regular expression thing. Then you would specify two patterns as alternatives and yeah. But that will probably be somewhere down the road from now.
legendary
Activity: 1386
Merit: 1097
Except that total BTC per GKey for miners will be lower, because miners need to keep hashing to get whole reward; although that user don't care about next results. But it was just an idea and I understand it may be a bit tricky to implement.
sr. member
Activity: 444
Merit: 313
Feature request:

Possibility to request more prefixes for one public key and do not offer one price for every prefix, but one price for any solution (which comes first). For example I want some nice personal address and it can be 1slush or 1marek, but I don't need both of them. When pool is able to stop searching for other prefix when one has been already found, user can offer higher reward per GKey...

Afaik this can be done pretty easily; miner search for more prefixes with the same pubkey already. So it's "only" change of the pool, to hide other works when first one has been solved, plus use shared reward per pubkey, not per prefix.

Please correct me if it won't work for some reason...

I guess it would work, but the implementation could be a bit more tricky.

Then again, you can put both requests up, offer each of them half of the reward and proceed anyway. The miners will look for both anyway, and they will prioritise the pair just the same. And on the plus side, you will (eventually) get both of the addresses.

I'm not sure if I my logic is 100% correct, but I think the answer is about right.
legendary
Activity: 1386
Merit: 1097
Feature request:

Possibility to request more prefixes for one public key and do not offer one price for every prefix, but one price for any solution (which comes first). For example I want some nice personal address and it can be 1slush or 1marek, but I don't need both of them. When pool is able to stop searching for other prefix when one has been already found, user can offer higher reward per GKey...

Afaik this can be done pretty easily; miner search for more prefixes with the same pubkey already. So it's "only" change of the pool, to hide other works when first one has been solved, plus use shared reward per pubkey, not per prefix.

Please correct me if it won't work for some reason...
sr. member
Activity: 444
Merit: 313
According to the bounty calculator almost all off the current work is under priced by a lot, does this mean that it's not actually worth "mining" for keys at the moment?
//DeaDTerra

Well, a lot of the work has a low bounty in comparison to its complexity, but since there is a lot of work for a single public key, the expected reward is higher. I will be addressing the pricing issue probably within a week or two. I'm planning to give the users three prices: one to put their work on top, one that is fair, and one that is minimal and is some fraction of fair. The last option is mainly for people submitting more than one work.

Please test it out and let me know how it works for you!

A quick question - how do you calculate the difficulty? For example, pattern 12 has a difficulty of 23, while 1a - 1353 . Is there any reason for that?
donator
Activity: 1064
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I wrote a "bounty calculator" to help users decide what bounty to set on a new piece of work. The idea is that the value of your new work should be just higher than the current highest valued work, but not higher than it needs to be, in order to put it at the front of the line. I explained it on the page:

Looks promising!

A question for ThePiachu, what is the lowest bounty you can set for new work?

0.1BTC, and please keep in mind that the Pool keeps 20% of the bounties, so the final reward will be 80% of the initial reward.
According to the bounty calculator almost all off the current work is under priced by a lot, does this mean that it's not actually worth "mining" for keys at the moment?
//DeaDTerra
sr. member
Activity: 444
Merit: 313
I wrote a "bounty calculator" to help users decide what bounty to set on a new piece of work. The idea is that the value of your new work should be just higher than the current highest valued work, but not higher than it needs to be, in order to put it at the front of the line. I explained it on the page:

Looks promising!

A question for ThePiachu, what is the lowest bounty you can set for new work?

0.1BTC, and please keep in mind that the Pool keeps 20% of the bounties, so the final reward will be 80% of the initial reward.
sr. member
Activity: 444
Merit: 313
VanityPool still lists 1Private but refuses to accept solutions (one of my rig found the solution and all of the ones I pointed at VanityPool tried to submit new ones several times).

I am sorry to hear that. Did you double check that the solution is correct? There have been cases of the miner coming up with incorrect answers. You can check your answer here: gobittest.appspot.com .

I will look into the issue.
hero member
Activity: 720
Merit: 528
I wrote a "bounty calculator" to help users decide what bounty to set on a new piece of work. The idea is that the value of your new work should be just higher than the current highest valued work, but not higher than it needs to be, in order to put it at the front of the line. I explained it on the page:

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When submitting work to vanitypool.appspot.com, it can be difficult to decide what bounty to set. To get your work done fast, the bounty should be high enough that the "value" of doing your work is higher than the value of doing other work. This will ensure that oclvanityminer will select your work over the others, and it will be the only work done by miners until it is solved or a more valuable piece of work is submitted. On the other hand, you should set the bounty as low as possible so as to not overpay.

This calculator will calculate the difficulty of a given pattern, check the current highest value work at vanitypool, then suggest a bounty for your work that would move your work to the front of the line, since it has the highest value. The suggested bounty will be 0.00001 BTC higher than the equivalent bounty for the current highest valued work. You are encouraged to set the bounty even higher so that your work remains at the front of the line in case some new work is submitted in this time.

Note: if you have outstanding work at vanitypool already, a worker can simultaneously search for all patterns belonging to a single public key. This means you may be able to reduce the bounty for a newly added pattern since the value of searching for all work belonging to a single public key is equal to the sum of the values of each pattern. If you have outstanding work at vanitypool, enter the public key belonging to the work in the form, and it will take this into the calculation to decide an applicable bounty.

Please test it out and let me know how it works for you!

http://fizzisist.com/mining-value/bounty-calculator

A question for ThePiachu, what is the lowest bounty you can set for new work?
hero member
Activity: 896
Merit: 1000
VanityPool still lists 1Private but refuses to accept solutions (one of my rig found the solution and all of the ones I pointed at VanityPool tried to submit new ones several times).
hero member
Activity: 759
Merit: 502
Also any suggestions or tips on how to increase my MKey/s rate?

I noticed that if I run 2 instances of the miner on the same card, I get a higher total mkey/s.  I tried playing around with --threads to get the same effect, but that must not be what I thought.

Right now I have 3 instances of oclvanityminer running across 5 gpus and I get ~125 mkey/s instead of ~111.


I tried to run 2 instances of oclvanityminer myselves and I got ~12 Mkey/s in each (~24 Mkey/s total), and in one instance I have ~23.5 Mkey/s, so not much difference (if any) for me
donator
Activity: 1064
Merit: 1000
Added those three cards in.

Also any suggestions or tips on how to increase my MKey/s rate?
Probably at the moment we would need some software optimisation for the miner. Block mining has been polished a lot, while vanity mining is still a new thing. Asides from that, the standard - overclocking, getting better hardware etc...

I wonder when someone will start vanity mining with FPGA boards...Wink
Okay ^^, I currently have both my cards overclocked at my usual stable OC for mining.
I have BFL single Smiley
But it's currently not supported by the software.
I am willing to test new software if anyone wants to give it a go at optimizing.
//DeaDTerra
sr. member
Activity: 444
Merit: 313
Added those three cards in.

Also any suggestions or tips on how to increase my MKey/s rate?
Probably at the moment we would need some software optimisation for the miner. Block mining has been polished a lot, while vanity mining is still a new thing. Asides from that, the standard - overclocking, getting better hardware etc...

I wonder when someone will start vanity mining with FPGA boards...Wink
donator
Activity: 1064
Merit: 1000
I have just started mining the vanity keys Smiley
I am currently getting 19.3 MKeys/s with my 6970 which gets around 410 Mhash usually.
And 22 MKeys/s with my 5850 which usually gets around 340 Mhash.
Any idea why the 5850 is performing better at generating keys when my 6970 performs better at normal Bitcoin mining?
Also any suggestions or tips on how to increase my MKey/s rate?
Thanks Cheesy
//DeaDTerra
hero member
Activity: 759
Merit: 502
Cool. I added mine to the table. If anyone has data for their hardware and doesn't feel like editing the wiki, please at least post here!

Seems I cannot modify the wiki without account so my info

MSI R5850 Twin Frozr II, ovrclocked core/mem  885/885
Phoenix 2.0 is 365.5 MHash/s
oclvanminer is 23.5 Mkeys/s

I have considerably lower ratio 0,0643 (your is 0.075), so while you can still mine vanity adresses more profitably right now, I cant
hero member
Activity: 720
Merit: 528
I pushed another commit with BTC/Gkey instead of BTC/Mkey. Would you please try it out? I don't have a machine to test it on available right now. Thanks!

https://github.com/fizzisist/vanitygen/commit/9981bbeed126a38543a4a869d4a6da957f3a8526
hero member
Activity: 720
Merit: 528
I just tried fizzisist's patch:

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Total value for current work: 0.000000 BTC/Mkey

actually current jobs don't look like worth of electricity ;-). However I don't know if it is just a bug in calculation or current work is really so hard/underpaid.

Heh, whoops. Actually, current work is well paid (better than bitcoin mining), but BTC/Mkey is 0 when shown with so few digits after the decimal. ;p

I'll submit another patch to change to to BTC/Gkey, since that will be a large enough number to easily make sense of.

Thanks for testing!
legendary
Activity: 1386
Merit: 1097
I just tried fizzisist's patch:

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Total value for current work: 0.000000 BTC/Mkey

actually current jobs don't look like worth of electricity ;-). However I don't know if it is just a bug in calculation or current work is really so hard/underpaid.
sr. member
Activity: 444
Merit: 313
Okay, after a small hiccup, the new version of the pool is up. You can see the lavishness of all the works. I haven't implemented the total sum for the entire Pool due to a lack of time. Also made some code refactoring, but that's on the internal side of things.

https://vanitypool.appspot.com/availableWork

Helpfully more updates coming this week, and I will probably do something for Bitcoin Friday...
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