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Topic: Vanity Pool - vanity address generator pool - page 34. (Read 148044 times)

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Well, I see someone has succeeded at solving a first real work on the Pool. Congratulations to the miner, and a big thank you to the proud new owner of address starting with 1winter for using the pool Wink.
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Am I correct that there is no cpu miner for addresses? (eg vanityminer)
There is a bounty for it here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bounty-claimed-vanity-address-split-key-generator-software-90587
Some people have already developed working solutions for address mining. I suppose the development will pick up once there are some actual Bitcoins to claim.

Also, I wonder if someone can figure out at what reward size it becomes more profitable to mine for addresses.

I did those calculations in my master thesis:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/my-bitcoin-master-thesis-88149
On page 69 you can see that the profitability varies with the GPU. I only had 3 graphics cards to test, but it seems that less powerful ones might be more effective at generating coins. I suppose if the service becomes really popular people will start analysing the performance of various GPUs, similar to the mining hardware comparison wiki page.
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Am I correct that there is no cpu miner for addresses? (eg vanityminer)
Also, I wonder if someone can figure out at what reward size it becomes more profitable to mine for addresses.
sr. member
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Okay, so by popular demand - the live beta version of the Vanity Pool is up on:

https://vanitypool.appspot.com

The testnet version has also been updated. The changes include:
-slightly improved webpages
-removal of ads
-email notification when the work is created and solved
-updates to the FAQ

Keep in mind, that the website is still in beta - coin and data loss may occur.

Happy mining, the first reward is up to keep miners busy for awhile.
sr. member
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What's stopping you from moving to the real chain? There might not be a favourable program for split key generation, but you can still launch nonetheless?

I suppose I could. I was holding off from doing that as I first of all wanted to test the system a bit more, make sure it's not buggy and most importantly - handles money properly and responsibly. I guess I'll look into it this week - spruce the code up a bit and look into launching some beta version of the website.
Fair point. Well I wish you good luck, and I'm looking forward to using this site for the real chain.
sr. member
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What's stopping you from moving to the real chain? There might not be a favourable program for split key generation, but you can still launch nonetheless?

I suppose I could. I was holding off from doing that as I first of all wanted to test the system a bit more, make sure it's not buggy and most importantly - handles money properly and responsibly. I guess I'll look into it this week - spruce the code up a bit and look into launching some beta version of the website.
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What's stopping you from moving to the real chain? There might not be a favourable program for split key generation, but you can still launch nonetheless?
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I'm very interested and will probably be sending some coin to the project in the future.

I have a question though, in this thread you talk about the cost to generate a vanity to a certain amount of characters. Is there a place to check something like that? Like how long/how much hashing power to generate a vanity 3 character vs. 8 characters? Or is it more complex than that?

Assume you can generate addresses at 20MKeys/s, then for each character after the initial "1" you need to check about 58^n characters. After 7 it starts to get pricey very fast. 13 and it would be cheaper to mine every Bitcoin ever at the current difficulty than to create the address.

There is some more info on this in my master thesis
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/my-bitcoin-master-thesis-88149
Chapter 5.6 for example.
legendary
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One easy way, download vanitygen and then try it.  For example:

Code:
C:\downloads\www.bitcoin.org>vanitygen 1WayTooLong
Difficulty: 10054102514374869638
[103.26 Kkey/s][total 630528][Prob 0.0%][50% in 2.140163e+006y]

And:

Code:
C:\downloads\www.bitcoin.org>vanitygen 1short
Difficulty: 15318045009
[103.59 Kkey/s][total 462080][Prob 0.0%][50% in 1.2d]
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I'm very interested and will probably be sending some coin to the project in the future.

I have a question though, in this thread you talk about the cost to generate a vanity to a certain amount of characters. Is there a place to check something like that? Like how long/how much hashing power to generate a vanity 3 character vs. 8 characters? Or is it more complex than that?
sr. member
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So, the bounty for a split-key vanity miner is up:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bounty-claimed-vanity-address-split-key-generator-software-90587

Currently a modest 10 Bitcoins, if you want to help, you can donate some Bitcoins to:
1Cuw26gA2nhuqjBELwL6QGG89RsqfaV3v8

The Vanity Pool website has been touched up a tad and can now support multiplication split keys, protocol has been changed a little, and old vanity work has been cleaned because of that. So, check out the website and re-submit your work if you want to play around (for now):

https://vanitypooltest.appspot.com/

Hopefully things will start picking up some steam once people will start developing some vanity miners. Probably the next bounties will be for some user-friendly way of creating and handling requests for a vanity addresses, importing them and so forth, so if you want to be ahead you can start looking into it right now;).
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Looks like someone is trying to first-bits squat on a bunch of vanity addresses, maybe? [...] But how do you convince the person you sell an address to that you threw away the key...? :-)

Yeah, looks like someone was shopping around for some vanity addresses. Personally I prefer using the full ones, but I guess they can be useful in tweets and what not (I even referenced to someone in one of my tweets by their firstbits, as I didn't have space for the full address;) ).

The problem with the traditional vanity key mining is exactly what you mentioned - you can't really convince anyone you really have thrown the keys away. You just have to trust the person that they won't steal your money. With the new approach you won't really have to trust anyone, which makes it so useful with Bitcoins.
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Cool idea! Look forward to seeing this get up and running.

While looking at creating a few vanity addresses of my own, I stumbled across the following transaction:

http://blockchain.info/tx-index/1187310/9a52c6325380ef34fe1e4d03202331a3937fbe420c79d7dc0f002027a9507e0f

Looks like someone is trying to first-bits squat on a bunch of vanity addresses, maybe? I don't see much other reason to do it, since there are countless addresses starting with each of these names/words, and the mixed-case makes these actual addresses not so awesome. Remains to be seen whether firstbits is important long-term or not, but I guess if you've got cycles to burn, why not?  But how do you convince the person you sell an address to that you threw away the key...? :-)
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Reviews on the site will be written for freebitcoins.co.uk and free-bitcoins.net as soon as:
A. You are off testnet.
B. You have a decent ui, helping users who have no idea what you are talking about. Me, for example.

Thank you for that, I'll try to get something operational soon.



As for other things, I'll soon be looking into setting up a few bounties for some OpenCL split key vanity mining software, as well as some other things. I'll post details when I'll buy some more Bitcoins and write the requirements down.

Also, my test website has a new section for split private keys that use multiplication, rather than addition, you can check it out here:

http://gobittest.appspot.com/

or more specifically, here:

http://gobittest.appspot.com/VanityMult

Soon I'll add the option to the Vanity Pool website.
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B. You have a decent ui, helping users who have no idea what you are talking about. Me, for example.
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The service is alive in a bare form currently. Probably this week I'll have a bit time to bring it up to par in terms of functionality and security. The main problem still remains, that there aren't really isn't is very little split-key vanity mining software. I'll try setting up a bounty for that once I get some funds...
legendary
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My bash bitcoin tools has now a vanityFromPublicPoint function that implements your idea.

Exemple:

Code:
$ vanityFromPublicPoint 04234F25164361B0021E32B8A4A4043FC9A609D7810E0D2AD72674C078D99DA32D5700F2ECCBDAE9D2345E19D64BA6C628706F5FB0D4FB78E66D097D97DDF8822A "Grondi1u"

The public key must be entered as a first argument, in 04[XPOSINHEX][YPOSINHEX] format.  The target string is the second argument.

You can try the above line if you want.  Were you ever find a matching address, I might buy it to you Smiley
legendary
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I and others have spent a lot of time trying to come up with a way to do vanity address mining in such a way that you can look for all the outstanding vanity addresse requests (all requests from all customers) with a single loop.

An address-squatter's dream, like domain names, 1-800 numbers and such... Grab a dictionary for a quick peek at initial search targets, but a list of trademarks, especially if biassed by market cap of the trademark owner, might also be useful.

A long term "investment" and maybe a more initially-expensive one than back in the days when I got windows.com, windows.org and windows.net for free on spec from the NIC and am still owed $3.50 by e-bay for their inability to find me a buyer for the matched set thus never yet actually refunded "refund" of the $3.50 they charged my credit card for trying to find a buyer.

(No wonder I have a still lingering lack of being impressed by this purportedly great auction site known as e-bay... Smiley)

-MarkM-
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I and others have spent a lot of time trying to come up with a way to do vanity address mining in such a way that you can look for all the outstanding vanity addresse requests (all requests from all customers) with a single loop.

Well, it might not be that much of an issue, at least not until a lot of people will want some long vanity addresses at the same time. The option for users to share their private keys would probably be hard to do (people generally can't be bothered). One could, however, also gather orders from people who don't mind having their vanity address generated by traditional means. Those could be cheaper for example, or mined only by some trusted members of the community.


Note that generating vanity addresses that start with 3 like "3vanity" will be much easier and faster than generating vanity addresses that start with 1 (like "1vanity").

The pool already supports that (I'll have to do some input sanitisation at some point though).
legendary
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Note that generating vanity addresses that start with 3 like "3vanity" will be much easier and faster than generating vanity addresses that start with 1 (like "1vanity").
Only if you bloat the blockchain with a lot of unnecessary garbage, or make hard-to-import "keys".

I've published my BIP13 (3...-addresses) branch of vanitygen.
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