I just did a small research about how difficult it is to guess a bitcoin address. All private keys are 2256 but the total addresses aren't that many. They are 2160 as @nullius said.
Now let's compare 2160 with another huge number:
14,615,016,400,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 (2160)
133,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 (Total atoms that exist on our planet)
That answer comes from an estimation of the number of atoms in each of Earth's elements, like Iron, Oxygen, Silicon, Magnesium, Sulfur … etc
It's scary to think how many different combinations of addresses can exist. Imagine that one water drop contains about 5 sextillion atoms. (5.01 x 1021)
Imagine picking one atom randomly from the earth and expecting someone to guess it.
When your computer generates an address is like picking one atom from ~10,000 different Earths.
You can't brute force a bitcoin address. You just can't.
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there is no difference between 1 and 580000 addresses, the speed is limited by the random number generator
why can't I set more than 19 characters to Vanitygen64, in case I get lucky and the whole address is generated quickly? Probably the fact is that this is a calculation and not a random generation, faster than the estimated time calculation is impossible, unlike random generenation in another program
why can't I set more than 19 characters to Vanitygen64, in case I get lucky and the whole address is generated quickly? Probably the fact is that this is a calculation and not a random generation, faster than the estimated time calculation is impossible, unlike random generenation in another program
This one you can put in the whole address
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/vanitysearch-yet-another-address-prefix-finder-5112311
https://github.com/JeanLucPons/VanitySearch
there is no difference between 1 and 580000 addresses, the speed is limited by the random number generator
why can't I set more than 19 characters to Vanitygen64, in case I get lucky and the whole address is generated quickly? Probably the fact is that this is a calculation and not a random generation, faster than the estimated time calculation is impossible, unlike random generenation in another program
why can't I set more than 19 characters to Vanitygen64, in case I get lucky and the whole address is generated quickly? Probably the fact is that this is a calculation and not a random generation, faster than the estimated time calculation is impossible, unlike random generenation in another program
[...] To be clear, you are full of shit.
- 2160 search space of Hash160s
- [...]
you forgot to divide the result by 2^96 because there are so many private keys for each address
I forgot nothing. The 296 is divided out of (slightly less than) 2256 valid private/public keypairs, for the 2160 search space that I stated.
You clearly have no fucking idea what you are talking about. Also, you are a spammer peddling a scam program with posts that are off-topic on the Vanitygen thread.
it takes a million years to select one address, but 2 years is enough to select one of 590 thousands 1+ BTC addresses
however, 12000 keys per second is very small on the processor, how much will the video card give if you write the same program?
however, 12000 keys per second is very small on the processor, how much will the video card give if you write the same program?
[blah]
This discussion is off-topic on the Vanitygen thread; but I feel a need to stick a spike in what is essentially idiot-FUD over Bitcoin’s security. To be clear, you are full of shit.
- 2160 search space of Hash160s
- 12000 trials per second
- 590000 Bitcoin addresses with ≥ 1 BTC (assuming that your information is correct; I can’t be bothered to investigate, when it cannot make any appreciable difference)
- 86400 seconds per day, 365.2425 days per year
Ignoring the question of how different script types are handled: On average, what is the expected number of years for you to hit any one of the desired addresses?
Code:
$ bc -l
((2^160 / 590000) / 12000) / (86400 * 365.2425)
6541404408567194639988331071041.54191444061112656733
((2^160 / 590000) / 12000) / (86400 * 365.2425)
6541404408567194639988331071041.54191444061112656733
Well, have fun trying, as I said.
you forgot to divide the result by 2^96 because there are so many private keys for each address
if it takes a million years for 1 video card to search, then a million video cards will be found in 1 year. Unlike mining, when it is extracted regularly for a little bit, the process of searching for keys takes a long time, but the reward is more significant.
The average video card would cost you about $200, so that's $200,000,000 in cards alone, it's safe to assume that you will need 30% of that in other pieces of equipment (apparently a GPU isn't a stand-alone device) so that is another $,60,000,000. You will also need a few million dollars in labor and shit.
The average GPU would consume about 120w per hour to do the "guessing" job, that will be 2.9kwh a day, the average electricity cost is 5 cents per kWh, so you will pay $0.145*1,000,000 = $145,000 daily, in other words, $52,925,000 a year.
A million GPUs would need 120 megawatts of power, and perhaps another 10MW to cool that down, you will need to get your own transformers and build your own infrastructure to attempt that kind of shit, you will be looking at close to 1 billion dollars in total by the end of the year including all the other expenses, that is close to 0.5% of the total value of bitcoin, you will spend a 100,000BTC in an "attempt" to hit a collision of some type, only to realize that those funds were moved to a thousand different addresses, or at best case scenario, whatever you may have found isn't worth a 100,000BTC anyway.
On the other hand, if you use those 1M GPUs for mining you make $620,000 in profit (after the power bill of 5 cents per kWh), so in a year you make 1/4 of a billion-dollar that is clean money without the chance of actually "stealing" some else's bitcoin.
One-way hash functions are built in a way that makes them economically less incentive compared to when you harness the same resources to make money else way, so if profit is the only "goal" it makes no sense to attempt that unless you want to gamble.
590000 Bitcoin addresses with ≥ 1 BTC (assuming that your information is correct; I can’t be bothered to investigate, when it cannot make any appreciable difference)
Let's see: I count 815446 Bitcoin addresses ≥ 1 BTC.If you want to take a shot to find the private key of a rich wallet, try those:
Code:
address balance
35hK24tcLEWcgNA4JxpvbkNkoAcDGqQPsP 22750211349798
37XuVSEpWW4trkfmvWzegTHQt7BdktSKUs 9450583134507
34EiJfy4jGF32M37aQ2ZobupwiRQWa1Siy 9285724546987
1FeexV6bAHb8ybZjqQMjJrcCrHGW9sb6uF 7995720489764
3Kzh9qAqVWQhEsfQz7zEQL1EuSx5tyNLNS 7429382157655
34xp4vRoCGJym3xR7yCVPFHoCNxv4Twseo 7343627940660
1HQ3Go3ggs8pFnXuHVHRytPCq5fGG8Hbhx 6937022461903
37tRFZw7n94Jddq6TfVs3MbCXmDX6eMfeY 6810156631276
3JurbUwpsAPqvUkwLM5CtwnEWrNnUKJNoD 6523671378350
bc1qgdjqv0av3q56jvd82tkdjpy7gdp9ut8tlqmgrpmv24sq90ecnvqqjwvw97 6350099542777
1P5ZEDWTKTFGxQjZphgWPQUpe554WKDfHQ 5882565501662
385cR5DM96n1HvBDMzLHPYcw89fZAXULJP 5580189332845
1LdRcdxfbSnmCYYNdeYpUnztiYzVfBEQeC 5388005997485
386eAUqL3ZNZPmHeABXLo658DTQuJeLzUR 5228631583003
1AC4fMwgY8j9onSbXEWeH6Zan8QGMSdmtA 5183035806607
1LruNZjwamWJXThX2Y8C2d47QqhAkkc5os 4400007825417
38UmuUqPCrFmQo4khkomQwZ4VbY2nZMJ67 4323343648365
bc1q5shngj24323nsrmxv99st02na6srekfctt30ch 4000032739903
3D8qAoMkZ8F1b42btt2Mn5TyN7sWfa434A 3999991875357
1BX5MXZ95rMiQJBH9yKpcmbAt9VcfyAfHE 3748301367714
17hf5H8D6Yc4B7zHEg3orAtKn7Jhme7Adx 3600000232699
3LCGsSmfr24demGvriN4e3ft8wEcDuHFqh 3420039122238
13JQwoSLLR3ffXwswe2HCTK9oq4i8MWK3q 3101001173650
12ib7dApVFvg82TXKycWBNpN8kFyiAN1dr 3100006932578
12tkqA9xSoowkzoERHMWNKsTey55YEBqkv 2815105678199
3H5JTt42K7RmZtromfTSefcMEFMMe18pMD 2653231784217
3Pja5FPK1wFB9LkWWJai8XYL1qjbqqT9Ye 2616701098509
1NH8vuaJaMXbtj4Qx6iFaQY8btdVcAn9iz 2449535094560
1ANjYHibCQ6FzagLfeXubC8SQYDfUS5wAJ 2396900026383
1AnwDVbwsLBVwRfqN2x9Eo4YEJSPXo2cwG 2322761527043
1932eKraQ3Ad9MeNBHb14WFQbNrLaKeEpT 2289999034779
14eQD1QQb8QFVG8YFwGz7skyzsvBLWLwJS 2221116586406
3EcoyfYvsBXBwdbdf4SY6DAU84kqS6mNLs 2170000479732
1aXzEKiDJKzkPxTZy9zGc3y1nCDwDPub2 2120481013155
3HroDXv8hmzKRtaSfBffRgedKpru8fgy6M 2012449485992
17rm2dvb439dZqyMe2d4D6AQJSgg6yeNRn 2000800083113
1HEWtVTNHApfVsK923gYYAuLUzzwweQGWj 2000100106691
1PeizMg76Cf96nUQrYg8xuoZWLQozU5zGW 1941442998326
19iqYbeATe4RxghQZJnYVFU4mjUUu76EA6 1858662993936
3JPauiFhP4K3AevmgNMFfMSN7pLZbuADJQ 1800100011082
3JSssZCJ3PHEdgNv7hzNE26EEzzvYNjZLy 1700100006032
3EiEN1JJCudBgAwL7c6ajqnPzx9LrK1VT6 1688134484379
1GR9qNz7zgtaW5HwwVpEJWMnGWhsbsieCG 1574555580702
3BMEXqGpG4FxBA1KWhRFufXfSTRgzfDBhJ 1556323781534
3N9an8wv4SYi3FVXs3xR5k2AqXeNZiw2mf 1549989103483
38Md7BghVmV7XUUT1Vt9CvVcc5ssMD6ojt 1503326226463
1KUr81aewyTFUfnq4ZrpePZqXixd59ToNn 1499999858633
3DwVjwVeJa9Z5Pu15WHNfKcDxY5tFUGfdx 1450000014976
3FrM1He2ZDbsSKmYpEZQNGjFTLMgCZZkaf 1400001439816
1BZaYtmXka1y3Byi2yvXCDG92Tjz7ecwYj 1400000055945
1U3d67BaLpwudFEZRtDDAm7bTCQkygUcV 1388237690339
Good luck 35hK24tcLEWcgNA4JxpvbkNkoAcDGqQPsP 22750211349798
37XuVSEpWW4trkfmvWzegTHQt7BdktSKUs 9450583134507
34EiJfy4jGF32M37aQ2ZobupwiRQWa1Siy 9285724546987
1FeexV6bAHb8ybZjqQMjJrcCrHGW9sb6uF 7995720489764
3Kzh9qAqVWQhEsfQz7zEQL1EuSx5tyNLNS 7429382157655
34xp4vRoCGJym3xR7yCVPFHoCNxv4Twseo 7343627940660
1HQ3Go3ggs8pFnXuHVHRytPCq5fGG8Hbhx 6937022461903
37tRFZw7n94Jddq6TfVs3MbCXmDX6eMfeY 6810156631276
3JurbUwpsAPqvUkwLM5CtwnEWrNnUKJNoD 6523671378350
bc1qgdjqv0av3q56jvd82tkdjpy7gdp9ut8tlqmgrpmv24sq90ecnvqqjwvw97 6350099542777
1P5ZEDWTKTFGxQjZphgWPQUpe554WKDfHQ 5882565501662
385cR5DM96n1HvBDMzLHPYcw89fZAXULJP 5580189332845
1LdRcdxfbSnmCYYNdeYpUnztiYzVfBEQeC 5388005997485
386eAUqL3ZNZPmHeABXLo658DTQuJeLzUR 5228631583003
1AC4fMwgY8j9onSbXEWeH6Zan8QGMSdmtA 5183035806607
1LruNZjwamWJXThX2Y8C2d47QqhAkkc5os 4400007825417
38UmuUqPCrFmQo4khkomQwZ4VbY2nZMJ67 4323343648365
bc1q5shngj24323nsrmxv99st02na6srekfctt30ch 4000032739903
3D8qAoMkZ8F1b42btt2Mn5TyN7sWfa434A 3999991875357
1BX5MXZ95rMiQJBH9yKpcmbAt9VcfyAfHE 3748301367714
17hf5H8D6Yc4B7zHEg3orAtKn7Jhme7Adx 3600000232699
3LCGsSmfr24demGvriN4e3ft8wEcDuHFqh 3420039122238
13JQwoSLLR3ffXwswe2HCTK9oq4i8MWK3q 3101001173650
12ib7dApVFvg82TXKycWBNpN8kFyiAN1dr 3100006932578
12tkqA9xSoowkzoERHMWNKsTey55YEBqkv 2815105678199
3H5JTt42K7RmZtromfTSefcMEFMMe18pMD 2653231784217
3Pja5FPK1wFB9LkWWJai8XYL1qjbqqT9Ye 2616701098509
1NH8vuaJaMXbtj4Qx6iFaQY8btdVcAn9iz 2449535094560
1ANjYHibCQ6FzagLfeXubC8SQYDfUS5wAJ 2396900026383
1AnwDVbwsLBVwRfqN2x9Eo4YEJSPXo2cwG 2322761527043
1932eKraQ3Ad9MeNBHb14WFQbNrLaKeEpT 2289999034779
14eQD1QQb8QFVG8YFwGz7skyzsvBLWLwJS 2221116586406
3EcoyfYvsBXBwdbdf4SY6DAU84kqS6mNLs 2170000479732
1aXzEKiDJKzkPxTZy9zGc3y1nCDwDPub2 2120481013155
3HroDXv8hmzKRtaSfBffRgedKpru8fgy6M 2012449485992
17rm2dvb439dZqyMe2d4D6AQJSgg6yeNRn 2000800083113
1HEWtVTNHApfVsK923gYYAuLUzzwweQGWj 2000100106691
1PeizMg76Cf96nUQrYg8xuoZWLQozU5zGW 1941442998326
19iqYbeATe4RxghQZJnYVFU4mjUUu76EA6 1858662993936
3JPauiFhP4K3AevmgNMFfMSN7pLZbuADJQ 1800100011082
3JSssZCJ3PHEdgNv7hzNE26EEzzvYNjZLy 1700100006032
3EiEN1JJCudBgAwL7c6ajqnPzx9LrK1VT6 1688134484379
1GR9qNz7zgtaW5HwwVpEJWMnGWhsbsieCG 1574555580702
3BMEXqGpG4FxBA1KWhRFufXfSTRgzfDBhJ 1556323781534
3N9an8wv4SYi3FVXs3xR5k2AqXeNZiw2mf 1549989103483
38Md7BghVmV7XUUT1Vt9CvVcc5ssMD6ojt 1503326226463
1KUr81aewyTFUfnq4ZrpePZqXixd59ToNn 1499999858633
3DwVjwVeJa9Z5Pu15WHNfKcDxY5tFUGfdx 1450000014976
3FrM1He2ZDbsSKmYpEZQNGjFTLMgCZZkaf 1400001439816
1BZaYtmXka1y3Byi2yvXCDG92Tjz7ecwYj 1400000055945
1U3d67BaLpwudFEZRtDDAm7bTCQkygUcV 1388237690339
it takes a million years to select one address, but 2 years is enough to select one of 590 thousands 1+ BTC addresses
however, 12000 keys per second is very small on the processor, how much will the video card give if you write the same program?
however, 12000 keys per second is very small on the processor, how much will the video card give if you write the same program?
[blah]
This discussion is off-topic on the Vanitygen thread; but I feel a need to stick a spike in what is essentially idiot-FUD over Bitcoin’s security. To be clear, you are full of shit.
- 2160 search space of Hash160s
- 12000 trials per second
- 590000 Bitcoin addresses with ≥ 1 BTC (assuming that your information is correct; I can’t be bothered to investigate, when it cannot make any appreciable difference)
- 86400 seconds per day, 365.2425 days per year
Ignoring the question of how different script types are handled: On average, what is the expected number of years for you to hit any one of the desired addresses?
Code:
$ bc -l
((2^160 / 590000) / 12000) / (86400 * 365.2425)
6541404408567194639988331071041.54191444061112656733
((2^160 / 590000) / 12000) / (86400 * 365.2425)
6541404408567194639988331071041.54191444061112656733
Well, have fun trying, as I said.
for an average video card, it takes a million years for one address, I thought that my i5 processor is not much inferior to this video card
it takes a million years to select one address, but 2 years is enough to select one of 590 thousands 1+ BTC addresses
however, 12000 keys per second is very small on the processor, how much will the video card give if you write the same program?
however, 12000 keys per second is very small on the processor, how much will the video card give if you write the same program?
At 12000 keys per second, you're not hitting no address at that speed. Depends on where the program searching at. How did you come up with 2 years for 590k address because that's not enough addresses to check for in a big space.
And you do know 1+ btc addresses is no different than 100+ btc addresses.
it takes a million years to select one address, but 2 years is enough to select one of 590 thousands 1+ BTC addresses
however, 12000 keys per second is very small on the processor, how much will the video card give if you write the same program?
however, 12000 keys per second is very small on the processor, how much will the video card give if you write the same program?
the private key can be calculated in a million years on a single processor or in 2 years one of the 590000 keys from addresses with a balance of more than 1 bitcoin https://github.com/traxm/Bitcoin-Micro-Collider/
Baloney. Well, have fun trying, as I said.
I would rather use this, at least it wouldn't take a million years
https://github.com/JeanLucPons/Kangaroo
https://github.com/JeanLucPons/Kangaroo
Good link (forum thread), but it needs the public key. It will not work with a Bitcoin address. Also, if you think that it will crack public keys in a reasonable time—as I said, have fun trying!
Who cares what you said, I said it wouldn't take a million years. I never said it it would crack in a reasonable time!
the private key can be calculated in a million years on a single processor or in 2 years one of the 590000 keys from addresses with a balance of more than 1 bitcoin https://github.com/traxm/Bitcoin-Micro-Collider/
Baloney. Well, have fun trying, as I said.
I would rather use this, at least it wouldn't take a million years
https://github.com/JeanLucPons/Kangaroo
https://github.com/JeanLucPons/Kangaroo
Good link (forum thread), but it needs the public key. It will not work with a Bitcoin address. Also, if you think that it will crack public keys in a reasonable time—as I said, have fun trying!
the private key can be calculated in a million years on a single processor or in 2 years one of the 590000 keys from addresses with a balance of more than 1 bitcoin https://github.com/traxm/Bitcoin-Micro-Collider/
I would rather use this, at least it wouldn't take a million years
https://github.com/JeanLucPons/Kangaroo
the private key can be calculated in a million years on a single processor or in 2 years one of the 590000 keys from addresses with a balance of more than 1 bitcoin https://github.com/traxm/Bitcoin-Micro-Collider/
Yes, from these addresses, the signature does not fit on the graphic code or even in the text buffer
@alevlaslo, generally when you see coins on addresses that look like this: 1xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxy1kmdGr, they are gone forever. If we ever find a way to get the private key for that address (if there is any), we will face much more worse problems than those you can imagine.
Stupid, in my opinion. Nobody can ever spend that money.
Let the stupid ones burn their bitcoins. They make them more valuable without knowing it. Yes, from these addresses, the signature does not fit on the graphic code or even in the text buffer
1CounterpartyXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXUWLpVr
this address has more than 2000 bitcoins, it was created using this program? How long did the process take? If you can create such an address, can you use the full address to calculate the private key?
this address has more than 2000 bitcoins, it was created using this program? How long did the process take? If you can create such an address, can you use the full address to calculate the private key?
1a1ev1as1oyouareveryfunnyxy4cGdVr <---That address is a valid Bitcoin address but nobody has the private key.
I'm sure you already know this and you just need another cup of coffee to help refresh your memory:
edit: found my post on burner address creation - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.46771759
@alevlaslo, generally when you see coins on addresses that look like this: 1xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxy1kmdGr, they are gone forever. If we ever find a way to get the private key for that address (if there is any), we will face much more worse problems than those you can imagine.
Stupid, in my opinion. Nobody can ever spend that money.
Let the stupid ones burn their bitcoins. They make them more valuable without knowing it. 1CounterpartyXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXUWLpVr
this address has more than 2000 bitcoins, it was created using this program? How long did the process take? If you can create such an address, can you use the full address to calculate the private key?
this address has more than 2000 bitcoins, it was created using this program? How long did the process take? If you can create such an address, can you use the full address to calculate the private key?
That is a burn address like 1BitcoinEaterAddressDontSendf59kuE, or 1111111111111111111114oLvT2 (all-zero Hash160). It is constructed in such a way as to make it obvious that nobody has the private key. Funds sent to such addresses are irretrievably lost.
Here is a valid Segwit burn address, with all-zero Hash160: bc1qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq9e75rs. Funds sent to this address are irretrievably lost.
The 1CounterpartyXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXUWLpVr address was created specifically for Counterparty’s proof-of-burn protocol.
Quote from: https://counterparty.io/docs/faq-xcp/
The supply of XCP was created in a process called ‘proof-of-burn’ that lasted from January 2nd to February 3rd 2014 (5000 Bitcoin blocks). During this period, anyone was able to exchange bitcoins for XCP automatically on a protocol level under the following conditions:
- Users sent their BTC to a verifiably unspendable Bitcoin address with no known private key. (1CounterpartyXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXUWLpVr)
- Each BTC was automatically exchanged for a number of XCP between 1000 and 1500, with more being rewarded the earlier the burn took place.
Stupid, in my opinion. Nobody can ever spend that money. It permanently spams the UTXO set for people who actually use Bitcoin. But—well, now you know the purpose of that address.
No, Vanitygen cannot crack its private key. You are welcome to try, with that or any other address. Have fun. :-)
HTH.
1CounterpartyXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXUWLpVr
this address has more than 2000 bitcoins, it was created using this program? How long did the process take? If you can create such an address, can you use the full address to calculate the private key?
this address has more than 2000 bitcoins, it was created using this program? How long did the process take? If you can create such an address, can you use the full address to calculate the private key?
This is the command I'm running: ./vanitygen -X 138 xabcd
Okay, seems like there's something wrong with Vanitygen when it comes with Altcoins, but there's a workaround to that.You can convert the result invalid WIF private key into the correct format by base58-decoding it into HEX, remove the checksum and network bytes,
and you got the private key.
Then covert that into WIF by doing vice-versa but this time, use "0x80" instead of '0x0A' in front.
This page automates all of that, displays an example and the steps: https://gobittest.appspot.com/PrivateKey,
Just paste the N, M or L WIF prvkey to the first text box, hit "send", and the result will be displayed under "Private key to wallet import format" at step #7.
But it's not available offline, if you want a secure method, find a script or something.
Thanks! I will try that.
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