Topic: Venezuela, a fable about socialism. Part 1/2 (Read 677 times)

Somewhat related but certainly good for a laugh...

Even Cuba has admitted the need for a strong private sector.

https://www.local10.com/news/cuba/cubas-new-regulations-for-private-sector-faces-resistance

Of course, they do, the farther and farther away you get from socialism the closer and closer you get to the system that ACTUALLY WORKS!!!!!!!!

Ding ding ding ding, we have a winner.

I wouldn't even consider China a socialist country, they're really not in any regard.

Though I do hope that the people of Venezuela have learned their lesson, in that their country is ruined forever if they go down this path again. Though, people forget quickly.

the bitcoin pump and dumpers and its big miner boys will also evolve to predatory and parasitic elites.

i am creating for this issue a special new form of cryptocurrency

 

they are called cryptosources, they are designed to secure socioeconomic foundation and keep them running

the token are also property rights over value sources in the human infrastructure environment.

eliminating the central bank scam and abuse, forcing a huge population to sell their time while enriching the central bank minority with passive income sources.

my cryptosources will revolutionary change the industry

regards

Here's How We Ended Up With Predatory, Parasitic Elites







Read more at https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-08-28/heres-how-we-ended-predatory-parasitic-elites.

jes but that so called prison can also be considered as a paradise full of opportunities look how many refugees beg to be allowed to live in those "prisions" people can fullfill their dreams there, like becoming a model actor, cook etc. while in the wild middle east and africa people are being abused as cattle or direct slaves for food, by those that are armed, and those that are armed got their weapons from the west who they sold goods and ressources to because the west is stable and can develop those weapons.

so the wilderness of africa and the middle east or impoverished developing countries can be even worse prisons.

iluminati is a mental condition and everyone can join it for free its like converting to a religion, that is not defined by someone, but being in an environment defined by economic rules, and limitations

Oh sure I'd agree with that, the ones who try and play inside the system will get decimated as well. I believe there are likely only a few hundred or less true elites/illuminati and they are not occupying any official government positions. They just hand down orders to government officials. It seems pretty obvious to me that the official presidents of countries are nothing special, just puppets for the true power. Why would anyone with true power want to actually occupy that position and deal with all the BS?

it depends on the perspective. what a slave is. if you look at those in the power centre, they can equally be considered enslaved by the obligations they are forced to fullfil

The person who gets the SSN is not the man or woman. Rather, it is the name on the SSN application or SS-4 Form. It doesn't bind anybody to anything except that which is written on the agreement. However, if some government official says it binds somebody to something, and if the man or woman agrees, then he/she is bound... not by the SSN, but by the agreement.

The SS person and the man or woman remain separate. The person receives SS checks and welfare. The man/woman benefits because they are the owners of the person. Government understands some of this, but the people rarely understand any of it.

Yes and people sign up for this agreement by getting their SS (slave number), the true mark of the beast.

Actually, back at the beginnings of the USA, people had a very different understanding of the way things work in America.

Dig out a copy of the 4th Amendment, and notice that little word, "persons," therein. That little word is one of the most important words in the whole Constitution and Bill of Rights. The people back then understood it, and would be shocked if they knew that we don't.

Back in those days, a person was a piece of paper that was an agreement. The reason it was called a person was that it had the name of a real live man or woman on it. The person was not the man or woman. Rather, it was simply an agreement. Everybody back then understood this.

Nowadays, a person actually IS the man or woman, or worse, the opposite. The man or woman becomes the person. And this is used in court all the time.

A prosecutor makes a person/document by placing the name of a man or woman on a piece of paper, and then he and the judge talk the man or woman into essentially stating that they are the person... the piece of paper. The man or woman is made liable for whatever judgment is placed on the piece of paper, because they agreed that they were the person on the paper.

If the people ever woke up, there would be a whole bunch of dead attorneys and judges and bankers lying around all over the place. In addition, the whole country would go back to real capitalism, because everybody would realize that he had the right to make his own persons to labor for real money, rather than for Federal Reserve debt instruments.

There a not single country in the world right now that is remotely capitalist. USA before 1900-1930 or so is the closest we've ever come and the USA is still living off the wealth and advantage created from that time period.

Unfortunately something like that may possibly never occur again since the USA was a very unique case where mostly independent minded people immigrated here. Most people are tribe minded group thinkers so it will be tough for anything similar to happen.

small governments and small states have different problems, like greedy capitalists killing and surpressing each other and the population, like in aristocratic europ middle east china india etc.

Haha. Yes the central bankers control things, you know how they do that? Through a big government which is always supported by socialist. In a small government system you will not have a central bank that is why the USA did not have one till 1913 when things started going downhill fast.

There's currently a great silence over the election of a Marxist president in South Africa, and his implementation of the plan to confiscate all the farms owned by "white farmers."

Want to guess how that's likely to turn out?

I can not affirm or deny your comment, just go to comment a bit, what analysts, I guess more versed than me, have said about it.

In each essay of socialism, which obviously ends up failing, the only difference is how long it takes to do it, the first thing that is done, and is part of the formula or the franchise of socialism, that is, that what failed, was not really socialism.

All this argument, is nothing else, than to leave the door open for future trials, where in the long run the result will be the same, total failure.

To this comment, the defenders of European socialism always come out, and that's where the socialists have been great, in converting European Humanism, in socialism by definition, to use them as a possible example, in none of those "socialisms" is there talk of nationalization, limitation of freedoms, or permits to buy food. They have been great in Marketing Communism, as socialism, to mix it with that humanism that was called socialism.

In the end, the result of socialism, if it is the one that has been seen, Total failure.

nope socialism fails because a small group (central banksters) is pretending it looks for the whole group while secretly enriches itself, at the expense of the group they controll.

why does socialism rises in the first place then? you want to live in presocialist aristocratic russia?

seriously who would want to live in presocialist aristocratic russia instead of socialist russia. except those that are massivly brainwashed with religion, or the ex russian nobility.

and aristocratic russia had the highest food security of all monarchic aristocratic capitalist societies on the entire eurasian and african continent and still communism broke out there.

i dont say socialism is perfect, but i say that there could be much worse forms of capitalism that you are experiencing in venezuela right now, like for example zimbabwe, india, etc.

The only time socialism has ever worked is if you restrict it to a very small group or tribe. (Like the amish who I believe limit each group to about 250 people)

Every time its tried on a mass scale it ends in abject failure because its based on the idea that everyone is looking out for the group as a whole. That is never going to happen when millions of people are involved it goes against basic human nature.

But people are too stupid to learn from the past.

Obvious, because, Venezuela is part of the west.   

venezuela's crysis is the job of economic hitmen from the west

Loads of links to info about Venezuela, with pictures and some videos, right here - http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Subjects/00494-LAST-venezuela.htm...

Plus...

Venezuelan Earthquake: Natural or Engineered - http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Article/246029-2018-08-22-venezuelan-earthquake-natural-or-engineered.htm