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hero member
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July 19, 2016, 12:50:34 PM
#28
I dont know why people are still mad because of the rollback.

Just to put it in the correct perspective:

The rollback of the blockchain - if my memory doesnt play games with me - was reversing just a handfull of transaction at most. It was super early in the lifetime of the VRC blockchain.

The VRC users themself were fine with that move.
The loudest people against it were blockchain purist which had no stake in VRC and who also are against bitcoin blocksize increase today.

Then your not listening or being smart.. it was explained to you lots before and on this topic.

Smart ?
Yeah as in being able to see things from other perspectives (other than your own)
What now ?
What do you do when it has been explained to you what the problem is and you say that ?
What do we tell you now ?
Try and explain it yet again ?

I will feed you your next comment / retort because i am the smart one here
and i can see how discussions will play out 100 comments in advance.

What you meant to say was.. you "disagree"
..not that you did not get it.

Ohhh now we see  Roll Eyes

Zip it up.. your agenda is showing son.  Cheesy
And want to sound all legendary and smart & shit ?
Then say something smart.. see how that works ?

Spotenik is delusional, paranoid, idiot!
hero member
Activity: 564
Merit: 500
July 19, 2016, 09:23:19 AM
#27


Im not a native english speaker- english is my 3rd language - but i used "i dont know" as a equivalence to "i dont understand".

Huh? Which agenda? That i dont agree with you?

Am i now part of the NWO or Illuminati conspiracy because i disagree?


You should come down from your high horse spoetnik because you neither are smarter nor better in anything then anyone here.
What you say has as much worth as what a junior member says - often probaly even less.

So all in all i will just quote this for you:

Quote
Zip it up.. your agenda is showing son.  Cheesy
And want to sound all legendary hero and smart & shit ?
Then say something smart.. see how that works ?

 Grin Cheesy

@criptix

Don't feed into him, look at his rating.  He is everything bad about crypto.  If I dont like or believe in a coin I ignore if I do reply I reply I educate myself so I don't sound like a fuding troll.







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hero member
Activity: 564
Merit: 500
July 19, 2016, 09:20:45 AM
#26


I dont know why people are still mad because of the rollback.

Just to put it in the correct perspective:

The rollback of the blockchain - if my memory doesnt play games with me - was reversing just a handfull of transaction at most. It was super early in the lifetime of the VRC blockchain.

The VRC users themself were fine with that move.
The loudest people against it were blockchain purist which had no stake in VRC and who also are against bitcoin blocksize increase today.

Yea it was two months into the coins life and it was less then $4k in transactions that were rolled back.  I understand why people would be upset but the end results were PoST so if this ever happen again there wouldn't need to be a rollback cause you couldn't take over the coin. A flaw was exposed and they improved it.  For me thats the coin I want to invest in. But lets be honest Alt. crypto is not about investing in a better currency its about making a quick buck.  Its about Pumping and frauds.  
legendary
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July 19, 2016, 09:02:59 AM
#25
I dont know why people are still mad because of the rollback.

Just to put it in the correct perspective:

The rollback of the blockchain - if my memory doesnt play games with me - was reversing just a handfull of transaction at most. It was super early in the lifetime of the VRC blockchain.

The VRC users themself were fine with that move.
The loudest people against it were blockchain purist which had no stake in VRC and who also are against bitcoin blocksize increase today.

Then your not listening or being smart.. it was explained to you lots before and on this topic.

Smart ?
Yeah as in being able to see things from other perspectives (other than your own)
What now ?
What do you do when it has been explained to you what the problem is and you say that ?
What do we tell you now ?
Try and explain it yet again ?

I will feed you your next comment / retort because i am the smart one here
and i can see how discussions will play out 100 comments in advance.

What you meant to say was.. you "disagree"
..not that you did not get it.

Ohhh now we see  Roll Eyes

Zip it up.. your agenda is showing son.  Cheesy
And want to sound all legendary and smart & shit ?
Then say something smart.. see how that works ?

Im not a native english speaker - english is my 3rd language - but i used "i dont know" as a equivalence to "i dont understand".

Huh? Which agenda? That i dont agree with you?

Am i now part of the NWO or Illuminati conspiracy because i disagree?


You should come down from your high horse spoetnik because you neither are smarter nor better in anything then anyone here.
What you say has as much worth as what a junior member says - often probaly even less.

So all in all i will just quote this for you:

Quote
Zip it up.. your agenda is showing son.  Cheesy
And want to sound all legendary hero and smart & shit ?
Then say something smart.. see how that works ?

 Grin Cheesy






legendary
Activity: 1540
Merit: 1011
FUD Philanthropist™
July 19, 2016, 08:46:43 AM
#24
I dont know why people are still mad because of the rollback.

Just to put it in the correct perspective:

The rollback of the blockchain - if my memory doesnt play games with me - was reversing just a handfull of transaction at most. It was super early in the lifetime of the VRC blockchain.

The VRC users themself were fine with that move.
The loudest people against it were blockchain purist which had no stake in VRC and who also are against bitcoin blocksize increase today.

Then your not listening or being smart.. it was explained to you lots before and on this topic.

Smart ?
Yeah as in being able to see things from other perspectives (other than your own)
What now ?
What do you do when it has been explained to you what the problem is and you say that ?
What do we tell you now ?
Try and explain it yet again ?

I will feed you your next comment / retort because i am the smart one here
and i can see how discussions will play out 100 comments in advance.

What you meant to say was.. you "disagree"
..not that you did not get it.

Ohhh now we see  Roll Eyes

Zip it up.. your agenda is showing son.  Cheesy
And want to sound all legendary and smart & shit ?
Then say something smart.. see how that works ?
legendary
Activity: 2464
Merit: 1145
July 19, 2016, 08:09:46 AM
#23
I dont know why people are still mad because of the rollback.

Just to put it in the correct perspective:

The rollback of the blockchain - if my memory doesnt play games with me - was reversing just a handfull of transaction at most. It was super early in the lifetime of the VRC blockchain.

The VRC users themself were fine with that move.
The loudest people against it were blockchain purist which had no stake in VRC and who also are against bitcoin blocksize increase today.
tyz
legendary
Activity: 3346
Merit: 1530
July 19, 2016, 07:17:48 AM
#22
Right! The coin has still to struggle with the hack and the rollback a few years ago. Vericoin was very promising. I still hold a small stake.
Such examples demonstrate the consequences of a loss of confidence.

they also invented the ETH rollback / hardfork ... what is VRM?

Yeah not sure what there is to be excited about. Vericoin was the first to rollback a hack.
legendary
Activity: 1540
Merit: 1011
FUD Philanthropist™
July 19, 2016, 03:15:02 AM
#21
ok "Full Member"

Guess what NOOB with expert opinions.. the Trust System gets abused here.
Now you know.. have any other questions for me NOOB ?

And where is the fraud ?
No point in re-typing out what YOU just said.. scroll up  Wink

oooh la la we got ourselves a "Full Member" here with OPNIONS !!!1111

Okeedokey then..
TAKE MY MONEY NOW !!!!!

PS:
My neg rating is because people don't like my "FUD" and.. i insulted the people of Alberta Canada  Cheesy
..has nothing to do with my level of trust worthiness.
It's ok though.. since your a NOOB here i don't expect you to know how the system works.

Let me know if you have any questions champ.

Wow, looks like a you stuck a nerve warr1979! lol Whatever you do don't talk about Spoetnik's trust level! haha

Sorry Spoetnik we don't have time to get to HERO status! As I see you have lots of time to be a keyboard cowboy with opinions!

Hey your right there Spoetnik, everyone has opinions including yourself.

Quote
He is NOT missing the point just echo'ing many of our sentiments.
He's right.

Corrupting the system is not "good for investors"
Just because your kids ask for candy, cookies & ice cream for dinner every night
..does not mean you should give it to them.

Besides look where it got them ..they are rolling out a scam ICO  Cheesy
..because no one gove two shits about Vericoin.

Take My Money Now ?

I Would Have burn my money before giving it to them for their scammy ICO bullshit.
See how that relates ?
And yeah i posted pictures here burning with fire FIAT to prove it.

Oh and what was VRC's dev teams grand coding accomplishments again ? (as boasted about in the 1st post)

Uhm no one was asking for "candy, cookies and cream for dinner every night"? Someone came in the middle of the night and ran sack the whole house. Big difference, thats the power of crypto currency is that we can rollback time, you may not like it but thats just your opinion shared by some but not all.

Theres more activity on Vericoin's blockchain then most coins, more wallets holding balances, more active stakers, more actual users. Just because the price is not as high as others doesn't mean shit. I'm looking at actual users not people trading on exchanges and not actual using the product.

The dev's have developed to new algo's PoST and PoWT which solve a lot of issues that Bitcoin and others have not solved, plus the development of Verium which will be running on the same blockchain as Vericoin working together to secure the network. Merging a PoS and PoW on the same blockchain is a brilliant idea have the best of both Pos and PoW.

Oh and by the way ICO was not the idea of the developers but voted by the community, so take your scam accusation and stuff em!





Is the topic about "Spoetnik's Trust Rating" here ?
no ?
Then what is it then ?

Struck a nerve ?
LOL don't flatter yourselves Kidiots Investards.

Scam coin is scam..  Roll Eyes

And go create a new account about it lippy brats.
And when you're done that buy some scammy WAVES ICO coins then run here and Shill for them.
Oh wait.. you already did.
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 500
July 19, 2016, 12:37:09 AM
#20

topic title say VRC = Vericoin

I have some cents of VRC Cheesy I am rich?


Hahahaha Idiot!
hero member
Activity: 896
Merit: 521
July 18, 2016, 07:59:44 PM
#19

topic title say VRC = Vericoin

I have some cents of VRC Cheesy I am rich?
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 500
July 18, 2016, 07:57:42 PM
#18
ok "Full Member"

Guess what NOOB with expert opinions.. the Trust System gets abused here.
Now you know.. have any other questions for me NOOB ?

And where is the fraud ?
No point in re-typing out what YOU just said.. scroll up  Wink

oooh la la we got ourselves a "Full Member" here with OPNIONS !!!1111

Okeedokey then..
TAKE MY MONEY NOW !!!!!

PS:
My neg rating is because people don't like my "FUD" and.. i insulted the people of Alberta Canada  Cheesy
..has nothing to do with my level of trust worthiness.
It's ok though.. since your a NOOB here i don't expect you to know how the system works.

Let me know if you have any questions champ.

Wow, looks like a you stuck a nerve warr1979! lol Whatever you do don't talk about Spoetnik's trust level! haha

Sorry Spoetnik we don't have time to get to HERO status! As I see you have lots of time to be a keyboard cowboy with opinions!

Hey your right there Spoetnik, everyone has opinions including yourself.

Quote
He is NOT missing the point just echo'ing many of our sentiments.
He's right.

Corrupting the system is not "good for investors"
Just because your kids ask for candy, cookies & ice cream for dinner every night
..does not mean you should give it to them.

Besides look where it got them ..they are rolling out a scam ICO  Cheesy
..because no one gove two shits about Vericoin.

Take My Money Now ?

I Would Have burn my money before giving it to them for their scammy ICO bullshit.
See how that relates ?
And yeah i posted pictures here burning with fire FIAT to prove it.

Oh and what was VRC's dev teams grand coding accomplishments again ? (as boasted about in the 1st post)

Uhm no one was asking for "candy, cookies and cream for dinner every night"? Someone came in the middle of the night and ran sack the whole house. Big difference, thats the power of crypto currency is that we can rollback time, you may not like it but thats just your opinion shared by some but not all.

Theres more activity on Vericoin's blockchain then most coins, more wallets holding balances, more active stakers, more actual users. Just because the price is not as high as others doesn't mean shit. I'm looking at actual users not people trading on exchanges and not actual using the product.

The dev's have developed to new algo's PoST and PoWT which solve a lot of issues that Bitcoin and others have not solved, plus the development of Verium which will be running on the same blockchain as Vericoin working together to secure the network. Merging a PoS and PoW on the same blockchain is a brilliant idea have the best of both Pos and PoW.

Oh and by the way ICO was not the idea of the developers but voted by the community, so take your scam accusation and stuff em!



legendary
Activity: 1540
Merit: 1011
FUD Philanthropist™
July 18, 2016, 09:21:23 AM
#17
ok "Full Member"

Guess what NOOB with expert opinions.. the Trust System gets abused here.
Now you know.. have any other questions for me NOOB ?

And where is the fraud ?
No point in re-typing out what YOU just said.. scroll up  Wink

oooh la la we got ourselves a "Full Member" here with OPNIONS !!!1111

Okeedokey then..
TAKE MY MONEY NOW !!!!!

PS:
My neg rating is because people don't like my "FUD" and.. i insulted the people of Alberta Canada  Cheesy
..has nothing to do with my level of trust worthiness.
It's ok though.. since your a NOOB here i don't expect you to know how the system works.

Let me know if you have any questions champ.
hero member
Activity: 564
Merit: 500
July 18, 2016, 08:53:50 AM
#16
they also invented the ETH rollback / hardfork ... what is VRM?

They invented the roll back?? You mean Bitcoin never rolled back?  Also VRC rolled back due to a theft not due to poor code that was exploited.  But all that matters is market cap not facts.

Rolling back due to theft is not a good enough reason to destroy the social contract. It sets a precedent for future thefts.

Having a block chain where you have "do-overs" is no better than using the current federal reserve funny munny system.



 Yeah Smoothie I think your missing the point here, the rollback was to support its community and investors and supporting your so called social contract. The hack was the fault of a poorly run exchange and no fault of the code/coin or developers.

 I totally support the return of funds do to theft, this whole notion of crypto being a this holy thing that can never be touched is bull. The crypto evangelists need to take a real look at the real world and realize that this is an unattainable notion that crypto/blockchain can never be touched or altered is unachievable.

 Just think in the real world, your telling someone to invest in crypto and you tell them "Oh yeah and if some steals your money your screwed, we can could do something but we can't because it goes against the blockchain bible!"

 In my opinion the power of crypto/blockchain is the ledger, the indestructible history of transactions, the consensus of the users....but thats just my opinion .

He is NOT missing the point just echo'ing many of our sentiments.
He's right.

Corrupting the system is not "good for investors"
Just because your kids ask for candy, cookies & ice cream for dinner every night
..does not mean you should give it to them.

Besides look where it got them ..they are rolling out a scam ICO  Cheesy
..because no one gove two shits about Vericoin.

Take My Money Now ?

I Would Have burn my money before giving it to them for their scammy ICO bullshit.
See how that relates ?
And yeah i posted pictures here burning with fire FIAT to prove it.

Oh and what was VRC's dev teams grand coding accomplishments again ? (as boasted about in the 1st post)


When you have this

Trust: -8: -3 / +0
Warning: Trade with extreme caution!
Ignore

What ever you say is irrelevant
hero member
Activity: 564
Merit: 500
July 18, 2016, 08:38:52 AM
#15
Can't wait so ready to trade SOME VRC for VRM!!  I know most here are into pump and dumps and catching any wave you can.  But a coin 2 years old with developers that have constantly improved the protocol and actually umm care its exciting times coming up!! So if you haven't heard of Vericoin check it out!! Join the fun!!

It would be more prudent for the vericoin developers to just give up on the coin and start anew than doing this scheme that is copied from NXT. With NXT I don't mind that they're doing it because they are just doing it for the very purpose of reviving the platform. But for vericoin everyone in the community knows about the story of the attack and the roll back and they have not really recovered from it. That makes the whole thing scammy. This is just my opinion.

So quitting on a coin and taking the improvements on a new coin is cool but doing the right thing and improving on the fundamentals isnt? WOW.  Oh and basically EVERYTHING IS A COPY OF BITCOIN.  You act like all they did was copy and past and have done nothing else for two years.  They took an unfortunate situation and improved it.

Why didnt they start a new coin when it would have been the easy way out cause they have a conscience they actually care about the people that invested their money in THEM.  Everyone here is so jaded on scams that when someone doesn't scam them they attack them.  Sorry the vericoin developers didn't screw over the people.  Also and FYI the vericoin developers did NOT want to do an ICO.  The community did they wanted to have a chance to get some verium especially those like myself who don't mine coins. So before you attack and call them scammers and they just want to get paid research.  Research the facts that 50% of the ICO will be staked and not touched.  Only 10% is going into development. With the rest going to third party projects and marketing.

scam
a dishonest scheme; a fraud.

Tell me where the scheme and where is the fraud?
legendary
Activity: 2926
Merit: 1440
July 18, 2016, 05:17:15 AM
#14
they also invented the ETH rollback / hardfork ... what is VRM?

They invented the roll back?? You mean Bitcoin never rolled back?  Also VRC rolled back due to a theft not due to poor code that was exploited.  But all that matters is market cap not facts.

Rolling back due to theft is not a good enough reason to destroy the social contract. It sets a precedent for future thefts.

Having a block chain where you have "do-overs" is no better than using the current federal reserve funny munny system.



I do think so too. Let me ask you a question. What do you think of Ethereum's hard fork? Yes we frown upon it, but do you think it will hinder its success in the future? Will Vitalik be able to say the end justifies the means in the end?
legendary
Activity: 1540
Merit: 1011
FUD Philanthropist™
July 18, 2016, 01:56:24 AM
#13
they also invented the ETH rollback / hardfork ... what is VRM?

They invented the roll back?? You mean Bitcoin never rolled back?  Also VRC rolled back due to a theft not due to poor code that was exploited.  But all that matters is market cap not facts.

Rolling back due to theft is not a good enough reason to destroy the social contract. It sets a precedent for future thefts.

Having a block chain where you have "do-overs" is no better than using the current federal reserve funny munny system.



 Yeah Smoothie I think your missing the point here, the rollback was to support its community and investors and supporting your so called social contract. The hack was the fault of a poorly run exchange and no fault of the code/coin or developers.

 I totally support the return of funds do to theft, this whole notion of crypto being a this holy thing that can never be touched is bull. The crypto evangelists need to take a real look at the real world and realize that this is an unattainable notion that crypto/blockchain can never be touched or altered is unachievable.

 Just think in the real world, your telling someone to invest in crypto and you tell them "Oh yeah and if some steals your money your screwed, we can could do something but we can't because it goes against the blockchain bible!"

 In my opinion the power of crypto/blockchain is the ledger, the indestructible history of transactions, the consensus of the users....but thats just my opinion .

He is NOT missing the point just echo'ing many of our sentiments.
He's right.

Corrupting the system is not "good for investors"
Just because your kids ask for candy, cookies & ice cream for dinner every night
..does not mean you should give it to them.

Besides look where it got them ..they are rolling out a scam ICO  Cheesy
..because no one gove two shits about Vericoin.

Take My Money Now ?

I Would Have burn my money before giving it to them for their scammy ICO bullshit.
See how that relates ?
And yeah i posted pictures here burning with fire FIAT to prove it.

Oh and what was VRC's dev teams grand coding accomplishments again ? (as boasted about in the 1st post)
legendary
Activity: 1540
Merit: 1011
FUD Philanthropist™
July 18, 2016, 01:50:17 AM
#12
they also invented the ETH rollback / hardfork ... what is VRM?

They invented the roll back?? You mean Bitcoin never rolled back?  Also VRC rolled back due to a theft not due to poor code that was exploited.  But all that matters is market cap not facts.

I will post this when Ford announces they are making cars now with Hemp based fuels..
http://www.hempcar.org/ford.shtml

..because it would be the same thing of course.
legendary
Activity: 2926
Merit: 1440
July 18, 2016, 01:30:17 AM
#11
Can't wait so ready to trade SOME VRC for VRM!!  I know most here are into pump and dumps and catching any wave you can.  But a coin 2 years old with developers that have constantly improved the protocol and actually umm care its exciting times coming up!! So if you haven't heard of Vericoin check it out!! Join the fun!!

It would be more prudent for the vericoin developers to just give up on the coin and start anew than doing this scheme that is copied from NXT. With NXT I don't mind that they're doing it because they are just doing it for the very purpose of reviving the platform. But for vericoin everyone in the community knows about the story of the attack and the roll back and they have not really recovered from it. That makes the whole thing scammy. This is just my opinion.
hero member
Activity: 564
Merit: 500
July 17, 2016, 11:58:39 PM
#10
they also invented the ETH rollback / hardfork ... what is VRM?

They invented the roll back?? You mean Bitcoin never rolled back?  Also VRC rolled back due to a theft not due to poor code that was exploited.  But all that matters is market cap not facts.

Rolling back due to theft is not a good enough reason to destroy the social contract. It sets a precedent for future thefts.

Having a block chain where you have "do-overs" is no better than using the current federal reserve funny munny system.



 Yeah Smoothie I think your missing the point here, the rollback was to support its community and investors and supporting your so called social contract. The hack was the fault of a poorly run exchange and no fault of the code/coin or developers.

 I totally support the return of funds do to theft, this whole notion of crypto being a this holy thing that can never be touched is bull. The crypto evangelists need to take a real look at the real world and realize that this is an unattainable notion that crypto/blockchain can never be touched or altered is unachievable.

 Just think in the real world, your telling someone to invest in crypto and you tell them "Oh yeah and if some steals your money your screwed, we can could do something but we can't because it goes against the blockchain bible!"

 In my opinion the power of crypto/blockchain is the ledger, the indestructible history of transactions, the consensus of the users....but thats just my opinion .

Exactly as they talk about this holy thing there either announcing their pump and dump coin or there promoting the next pump and dump coin. 

The Vericon developers are some of the most ethical  people I have meet.  YES they rolled it back but what did they do was IMPROVE PoS protocol with PoST.  They vowed NEVER to roll back the coin why cause they fixed a flaw.  They CONTRIBUTED (Wow what a notion) to this fucked up world called crypto.  They keep on CONTRIBUTING with Verium as a POW tied to a PoST.  Facts are if your talking about transmission of currency Vericoin is better then Bitcoin.  Soon when you talk about Mining Verium will be more efficient and more profitable IF given the chance then Bitcoin.  But since its not getting spammed and pumped to holy high hell no one cares.  I know we all care about ourselves but why doesn't main stream people  know or really care to know about crypto cause of people in this community acting like there wolf of wall street while telling people there changing the world.   Rant over.
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 500
July 17, 2016, 10:25:34 PM
#9
they also invented the ETH rollback / hardfork ... what is VRM?

They invented the roll back?? You mean Bitcoin never rolled back?  Also VRC rolled back due to a theft not due to poor code that was exploited.  But all that matters is market cap not facts.

Rolling back due to theft is not a good enough reason to destroy the social contract. It sets a precedent for future thefts.

Having a block chain where you have "do-overs" is no better than using the current federal reserve funny munny system.



 Yeah Smoothie I think your missing the point here, the rollback was to support its community and investors and supporting your so called social contract. The hack was the fault of a poorly run exchange and no fault of the code/coin or developers.

 I totally support the return of funds do to theft, this whole notion of crypto being a this holy thing that can never be touched is bull. The crypto evangelists need to take a real look at the real world and realize that this is an unattainable notion that crypto/blockchain can never be touched or altered is unachievable.

 Just think in the real world, your telling someone to invest in crypto and you tell them "Oh yeah and if some steals your money your screwed, we can could do something but we can't because it goes against the blockchain bible!"

 In my opinion the power of crypto/blockchain is the ledger, the indestructible history of transactions, the consensus of the users....but thats just my opinion .

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