Topic: Vertcoin - First Scrypt N | First Stealth Address - Privacy without mixer - page 109. (Read 1232701 times)

@ Kartoffelknilch

There is nothing more to lose. Except 5% of our price everyday.

I bet you're a fan of the TSA too?

Changing anything on Vertcoin - other than scrypt-n diff to eject asics - will result in a loss of trust in the coin.

And yes, i am a miner.
And yes, i am selling some of my coins to pay my bills.
Why? Simple!
I have no big financial background to live from and have to feed my family and pay my bills.

If there is anything changed on the coin with any other target than to get ridd of asics, i'll quit mining VTC.

If the "investors" can't handle it, well, get out of VTC and buy and sell other coins.

But i am pretty sure, most of us miners will just quit VTC and change to another coin if the devs would play with blockreward or anything just to push the price a bit.

And guess what a coin without miners is...

AMEN.... bro

Cu at 0.0001 guys. i am out

A quick read to this thread and reddit forum about different ideas and disagreement tells me that things will not move forward, at least not in the near future.  Bottom line is that vertcoin community and devs are afraid to make changes to current VTC situation.  This is a vey bad perception.

Nobody knows what's the right move.  I think devs should make a decision now to implement whatever idea seems most promising at the moment even with risk to MON.

At this point, it's better to do something than not do anything at all.

    Litecoin miners crossed on the X mining,specially  X 11 algorithm (due to savings of about 50% electricity).

sometimes the background image is not displayed when entering the site - Vertcoin.org

I'm using Mozilla Firefox ver=30.0

new thread, but bump

hello vertans
first of all escuse my english

i've read and a i am reading this thread every day,  i'm mining and buy vertcoin at lest for three months and i didn't sell anything we sell will rise to the moon   i believe he will  ,now i have to tell and  i something because i support vertcoin i think it has future .
we don't have to make changes for short term we have  to think long term .if do in short them like some sugested (ex: half reward  to rise the price ) i think alot will abandon the ship right when will achieve  a price to jump because maybe yhey don't believe in this coin.
we have great devs  they trying the best for this coin and othe has right until we have someting good almost i think 80%  we must wait.
some of us  are angry,but they know when i do investment  you can lose or win not always win .
i think we need publicity ,alot (marketing) ,PR   and make the vertpay work.

in this moment all coins are down  i think maybe investors are waiting to  see what coins are strong will survive and remain in game because are too many . we have to consolidait are community and coin to be unite .
vertcoin has something that others don't have great devs that are evolving  and i m glad they dont listen who is writeing 20,30 post to do somenthing  because he things he has write ,when you think you write you have to come with more explanisions,exemples .

another think we need miners if cut the reward now we will not atract  many miners with miners will rise and difficulty .

are many things to say....


most important now is marketing and vertpay  

Their objective was quite clear in here. It was unfortunate it happened for this long. I would like to give people the benefit of the doubt and not come to conclusions so fast, but they really went overboard. Let's keep this a positive environment.

I watched Maxcoin change their coin supply.

The price went up, holders dumped. The price went into a reverse.

If you reduce coin supply, it must be for a technological reason.

darkota just seems to be looking for a quick price fix to dump out.

After arguing with them, i don't think they will change their mind, nor consider the possibility of changing their mind.

Those guys are hermetic to any form of logic. Everytime you try to demonstrate that the solution they propose may not work as they think, they change the subjet/call you names.

In all of their posts, the only thing they are able to tell is: ''too many coins are mined everyday, we have to change the block reward''.

But they are unable to explain why the number of mined coin is the problem (IMO the problem comes from general lack of interest in cryptos and therefore lack of buy pressure), also they can't explain why the block reward halving will do any good (IMO, it will create a small pump that will enable people to dump even more, then the price will fall again and the coin will have lost all credibility as the halving will be seen as a failed attempt to artificially manipulate the coin price).

IMO, those guys are either professional trolls, teenagers, or just brain dead. Either way arguing with them is a waste of time as they do not try to answer to your legitimate questions and just repeat over and over what they have already said a million time.

edit: after a quick search, it seems that our beloved darkota is not a newbie when it comes to spreading FUD and being a dumbass: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7555460 (LTC) , https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/litecoin-is-officially-dead-what-darkota-deleted-from-that-thread-661963 (LTC), https://bitcointa.lk/threads/doge-game-over.334704/page-2 (DOGE)


I totally agree, and I trust the dev team, they have already proven their hability to come up with innovative things.

Block the award in half = nothing

History .... Smartcoin

April 14, 2014 - new wallet block from 64 to 32 https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6206520

see April 14, 2014 - Difficulty - http://www.coinwarz.com/difficulty-charts/smartcoin-difficulty-chart

see April 14, 2014 - Network Hashrate http://www.coinwarz.com/network-hashrate-charts/smartcoin-network-hashrate-chart

everything falls by half
the equilibrium recovers and again began dump .... there are always people who sell .... maybe they do not pay electricity

maybe some people will draw conclusions and will change their opinions


P.S
We need something much more clever and spectacular to attract the attention of all miners and investors

I've been watching :-p Vert is a great coin and the Dev's work hard, and thank you for working so hard by the way!

But, downtrend since the coin started... ouch. 4 years is too long for block halving.

I have some proposition, it seems this proposition is in the end:

Inflation model depending on level of adoption.

I will not publicly show this model yet, but PM sent - so please answer what is your opinion

If you have 5000VTC lying around i'd buy for 0.0001 with escrow.

We have vertcoin market for that but i don't think it get enough exposure.
You have good points, devs aren't the only one that have to work on the coin, community have to create what they believe is necessary or at least useful to the coin.

yes pure pos lol that sure won't make this coin a copy of a ton of other pos only shitcoins with no difference at all and drive the price down to zero, vtc was made to be uniqe , keep the mining going for the average joe and distribute the wealth evenly on a large user base i.e every gamer/pc user not the consolidated mining with big time companies that we are having now with btc/ltc , also innovate new features like sx and eventually be 3rd to bitcoin and litecoin .... through innovation not through cheating and tweaking the block chain for momentary gains then poof everything is gone because of the bad reputation the coin will gain from screwing with the block chain in such ways you and others are suggesting !

pure pos throws the very idea behind this very coin in the gutter and makes it lose it's "soul" period

Algo , block reward well those are small things and god knows if they help anything.

Well i personally havent contributed anything to the coin, few posts here and there, Just own a bunch of vert and mining it with 1 rig.

Question is what is a coin community? Some people mining and holding a coin and commenting in threads? If yes than not much is coming from this.
Partially the coin is owned by developers but in reality developers should just be the guys who started it. The main things and stuff initially comes from developers but thats it , cryptocoin should be something that community develops. But what can regular Joe do?

Lets take the vertcoin web example , well dev team could propose the general frame, but why not to make the vertcoin web as a community tool.
Something like wiki.  This is just one example all the things should be made keeping in mind that some frame is generated and then crowd can do something with it.  If we take bitcoin as an example then there are like thousands of communities doing/developing something on top of it.

So to sum up community should develop things and "The devs" should not be the only devs.
And as i said i personally haven't contributed anything (except 1 donation to this marketing campaign) , and i am probably not going to dig in to cryptography and shit ,   but if there were some tasks that more people could handle then most probably i would also contribute.

So anyone here could start something    

EDIT:
For example we could implement reward system.
1: Define a task
2: estimate a cost of task
3: collect the pot
4: who ever developes the solution gets the pot.

Ex: Vertcoin facebook ap  10k Vert,   Vertcoin DNS solution 10k Vert .. seriosly whatever sky is the limit and recourse is the world.
Or developers can also finance their own hours with community financing.

zzzman20,

Most of the activity for vertcoin is in reddit. This also may address your question: http://www.reddit.com/r/vertcoin/comments/2ah7ri/official_marketing_campaign_updates/