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zzzman20

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Quote from: geenius on July 12, 2014, 06:33:42 PM

i have an idea how to increase buy orders in (or save) VTC. you can trade every coin in exchanges for BTC or in some exchanges for LTC. so we have 2 options. a new exchange where you can trade other cryptos for ONLY VTC or separate market with primary coin VTC in an existing exchange. at the start it could be any shitcoin which is not traded anywhere for VTC and later adding another cryptos. it is just an idea

No... that would just be a dead exchange. Getting Vert in the spotlight is what needs to be done. Is there anyone in advertising or PR working on the Dev team? Or is it just a bunch of guys who argue with each other over block halving?

zzzman20

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Quote from: WHaze on July 12, 2014, 05:57:17 PM

Quote from: reinmar532 on July 12, 2014, 05:51:54 PM

http://wafflepool.com/stats 350 MH/S
https://www.multipool.us/index.php 70 MH/S

Multipools are still dumping.

Yes and according to some it could be fixed by halving the block reward.

Why it won't work: 2 hypothesis (for the demonstration we will assume that the price drop is caused by the amount of coins being dumped)

*The halving increase the price
-Less coins will be mined, but those coins will be worth more
--> No effect at all, the dumping of the newly mined coins will make the price drop like it is doing now

*The halving doesn't increase the price
-Less coins will be mined but the price will remain stable
--> mining will no longer be profitable for anyone and the coin will die.

Ok, so just make the coin POS and problem solved.

Better yet, Get some exposure for this coin!

pseudofx

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Hi Geenius,

Feel free to post your idea here: http://www.reddit.com/r/vertcoin/comments/2aav7b/tweaking_vertcoin_inflation/ to further get your idea out!

geenius

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i have an idea how to increase buy orders in (or save) VTC. you can trade every coin in exchanges for BTC or in some exchanges for LTC. so we have 2 options. a new exchange where you can trade other cryptos for ONLY VTC or separate market with primary coin VTC in an existing exchange. at the start it could be any shitcoin which is not traded anywhere for VTC and later adding another cryptos. it is just an idea

pseudofx

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Quote from: pseudofx on July 12, 2014, 05:25:55 PM

One more bump =)

Quote from: pseudofx on July 12, 2014, 04:51:32 PM

There is no need to bash here. Let's keep this civilized with meaningful post.

I haven't seen any new post @ http://www.reddit.com/r/vertcoin/comments/2aav7b/tweaking_vertcoin_inflation/

Please post over at reddit. =) If we can get more people to provide insights, it will help speed the process. Going back and forth in this thread does not solve the issue here.

Quote from: pseudofx on July 12, 2014, 05:02:55 PM

Darkota and Jiggy, can you please post here: http://www.reddit.com/r/vertcoin/comments/2aav7b/tweaking_vertcoin_inflation/

It is designed to specifically to talk about vertcoin's inflation. It is possible that your post may not be seen here because this is a general discussion for vertcoin. Possibly why you have to reiterate yourself every so often.

If there is no new post at the link I provided, then something does not add up. Those who are wanting the rewards reduced and are truely vertcoin supporters, why not voice your opinion over there? That is what it was meant for! The development team are over there and is easier for you to communicate with them, rather than going back and forth with members.

Still no new post @ http://www.reddit.com/r/vertcoin/comments/2aav7b/tweaking_vertcoin_inflation/

WHaze

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Quote from: pseudofx on July 12, 2014, 06:25:02 PM

Crypto_EX and WHaze,

The poll will not be used to determine whether the rewards will be changed or not. Bitcointalk's poll is known to be skewed.

Yes we know, fortunately darkota does not have that kind of powers.....

But still......

pseudofx

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Crypto_EX and WHaze,

The poll will not be used to determine whether the rewards will be changed or not. Bitcointalk's poll is known to be skewed.

Crypto_EX

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Quote from: WHaze on July 12, 2014, 06:16:58 PM

Quote from: Crypto_EX on July 12, 2014, 06:15:36 PM

Quote from: WHaze on July 12, 2014, 06:12:23 PM

Quote from: darkota on July 12, 2014, 06:08:53 PM

Whaze, you are NOT allowed in that thread.

Right, the only people allowed are the one who are going to vote for the block halving.....

Seems fair to me .....

i can't even vote he must have banned me from voting or something

this guy is kinda funny i had a good laugh today specially with all the i'm the crypto god and you are just a punch of noobs i got 112 posts haha

Indeed, if you ban those who will vote against you, you're sure to win. Democracy in action Wink

Seriously, to act like that he must be 12 or just retarded.

i'll go with both 12 AND retarded LOL

WHaze

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Quote from: Crypto_EX on July 12, 2014, 06:15:36 PM

Quote from: WHaze on July 12, 2014, 06:12:23 PM

Quote from: darkota on July 12, 2014, 06:08:53 PM

Whaze, you are NOT allowed in that thread.

Right, the only people allowed are the one who are going to vote for the block halving.....

Seems fair to me .....

i can't even vote he must have banned me from voting or something

this guy is kinda funny i had a good laugh today specially with all the i'm the crypto god and you are just a punch of noobs i got 112 posts haha

Indeed, if you ban those who will vote against you, you're sure to win. Democracy in action Wink

Seriously, to act like that he must be 12 or just retarded.

Crypto_EX

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Quote from: WHaze on July 12, 2014, 06:12:23 PM

Quote from: darkota on July 12, 2014, 06:08:53 PM

Whaze, you are NOT allowed in that thread.

Right, the only people allowed are the one who are going to vote for the block halving.....

Seems fair to me .....

i can't even vote he must have banned me from voting or something

this guy is kinda funny i had a good laugh today specially with all the i'm the crypto god and you are just a punch of noobs i got 112 posts haha

pseudofx

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zzzman20,

Welcome, I noticed this is your first day posting here in vertcoin. Your input is considered. Thank you.

WHaze

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Quote from: darkota on July 12, 2014, 06:08:53 PM

Whaze, you are NOT allowed in that thread.

Right, the only people allowed are the one who are going to vote for the block halving.....

Seems fair to me .....

Crypto_EX

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Quote from: zzzman20 on July 12, 2014, 06:06:12 PM

Quote from: Crypto_EX on July 12, 2014, 05:59:48 PM

Quote from: zzzman20 on July 12, 2014, 05:54:54 PM

Quote from: WHaze on July 12, 2014, 05:36:53 PM

Quote from: darkota on July 12, 2014, 05:33:29 PM

Quote from: WHaze on July 12, 2014, 05:28:32 PM

Quote from: darkota on July 12, 2014, 05:27:04 PM

I'm done answering to stupid newbies on this thread.

All I can say is, the halving isnt changed very verys soon, this coin is dead.

It won't, so GET OUT NOW !!!!

Also, you didn't answer to anything, you just claimed to be a god because you had 112 activity and claimed that we were newbies.

Would you like to make a bet, idiot? I'll get an escrow. Bet is 5 bitcoin.

I'll be that Vertcoin's price hits .0001 within the next 3 weeks.

It's complete fucking imbeciles like you WHaze, that make coins die. Open your mind, and youll that 20,000 vertcoin getting dumped on the exchanges everyday is whats causing the price to drop faster than a stone.

Man i'm begining to think you can't even read.....

As I said before, i do think we have a problem and I know the price is dropping.

All i'm saying being : i'm not convinced that the amount of new mined coins is causing the price drop and i'm not convinced that halving the block reward will help.

LEARN TO READ !

Also, how halving the block reward will reduce the number of coins being dumped? Huh

There will be less coins but according to you they'll be worth more ! So it would be the same. Like I said before, your logic is flawed.

Once again, the price is not driven by the block reward but by the buyers and sellers.

Dude really? You're not convinced that new coins being mined and sold with no buy pressure causes the price to drop? Are you serious??? Lowering the block reward would mean less coins being mined and dumped every day. So there would not need to be as much buy pressure to just keep the price STABLE let alone go up.

DEVS - PLEASE LOWER THE BLOCK REWARD!

Lets take a poll, and please post the amount of VTC you currently own.

I have 5000 VTC, and I vote- LOWER THE BLOCK REWARD, NOW

not every single coin mined is being sold on the market only free electricity miners will be dumping as soon as mined and those are a small %

It doesn't matter, so they wait and dump at the first chance that Vert starts going up, it still kills the coin

not at the "first chance" a lot of miners won't dump unless each coin is worth an X amount also everycoin is like this not just vert

WHaze

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Quote from: darkota on July 12, 2014, 06:06:29 PM

Quote from: zzzman20 on July 12, 2014, 06:05:35 PM

Repeat after me--

LOWER BLOCK REWARD
GET VERT IN THE NEWS
LOWER BLOCK REWARD
GET VERT IN THE NEWS

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/should-vertcoins-block-reward-be-lowered-688792

I made a Poll, should vertcoins block reward be lowered?

LOL, you deleted my comment on your poll? man that's really low, even for you

For the record, I said that the presentation of the poll was biased. You could at least try to be impartial when you make a poll.....

darkota

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Whaze, you are NOT allowed in that thread.

reinmar532

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Multipools will be still dumping for them price doesn't matter. Many people want to mine as many BTC as they can before "next big pump". And they will be doing it even if electricity cost is higher then reward.

There is only one option which doesn't require changing subsidy and it require getting Vertcoin on BTC-e and we know it won't happend.

darkota

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Quote from: zzzman20 on July 12, 2014, 06:05:35 PM

Repeat after me--

LOWER BLOCK REWARD
GET VERT IN THE NEWS
LOWER BLOCK REWARD
GET VERT IN THE NEWS

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/should-vertcoins-block-reward-be-lowered-688792

I made a Poll, should vertcoins block reward be lowered?

zzzman20

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Quote from: Crypto_EX on July 12, 2014, 05:59:48 PM

Quote from: zzzman20 on July 12, 2014, 05:54:54 PM

Quote from: WHaze on July 12, 2014, 05:36:53 PM

Quote from: darkota on July 12, 2014, 05:33:29 PM

Quote from: WHaze on July 12, 2014, 05:28:32 PM

Quote from: darkota on July 12, 2014, 05:27:04 PM

I'm done answering to stupid newbies on this thread.

All I can say is, the halving isnt changed very verys soon, this coin is dead.

It won't, so GET OUT NOW !!!!

Also, you didn't answer to anything, you just claimed to be a god because you had 112 activity and claimed that we were newbies.

Would you like to make a bet, idiot? I'll get an escrow. Bet is 5 bitcoin.

I'll be that Vertcoin's price hits .0001 within the next 3 weeks.

It's complete fucking imbeciles like you WHaze, that make coins die. Open your mind, and youll that 20,000 vertcoin getting dumped on the exchanges everyday is whats causing the price to drop faster than a stone.

Man i'm begining to think you can't even read.....

As I said before, i do think we have a problem and I know the price is dropping.

All i'm saying being : i'm not convinced that the amount of new mined coins is causing the price drop and i'm not convinced that halving the block reward will help.

LEARN TO READ !

Also, how halving the block reward will reduce the number of coins being dumped? Huh

There will be less coins but according to you they'll be worth more ! So it would be the same. Like I said before, your logic is flawed.

Once again, the price is not driven by the block reward but by the buyers and sellers.

Dude really? You're not convinced that new coins being mined and sold with no buy pressure causes the price to drop? Are you serious??? Lowering the block reward would mean less coins being mined and dumped every day. So there would not need to be as much buy pressure to just keep the price STABLE let alone go up.

DEVS - PLEASE LOWER THE BLOCK REWARD!

Lets take a poll, and please post the amount of VTC you currently own.

I have 5000 VTC, and I vote- LOWER THE BLOCK REWARD, NOW

not every single coin mined is being sold on the market only free electricity miners will be dumping as soon as mined and those are a small %

It doesn't matter, so they wait and dump at the first chance that Vert starts going up, it still kills the coin

zzzman20

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Repeat after me--

LOWER BLOCK REWARD
GET VERT IN THE NEWS
LOWER BLOCK REWARD
GET VERT IN THE NEWS

Crypto_EX

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Quote from: zzzman20 on July 12, 2014, 05:54:54 PM

Quote from: WHaze on July 12, 2014, 05:36:53 PM

Quote from: darkota on July 12, 2014, 05:33:29 PM

Quote from: WHaze on July 12, 2014, 05:28:32 PM

Quote from: darkota on July 12, 2014, 05:27:04 PM

I'm done answering to stupid newbies on this thread.

All I can say is, the halving isnt changed very verys soon, this coin is dead.

It won't, so GET OUT NOW !!!!

Also, you didn't answer to anything, you just claimed to be a god because you had 112 activity and claimed that we were newbies.

Would you like to make a bet, idiot? I'll get an escrow. Bet is 5 bitcoin.

I'll be that Vertcoin's price hits .0001 within the next 3 weeks.

It's complete fucking imbeciles like you WHaze, that make coins die. Open your mind, and youll that 20,000 vertcoin getting dumped on the exchanges everyday is whats causing the price to drop faster than a stone.

Man i'm begining to think you can't even read.....

As I said before, i do think we have a problem and I know the price is dropping.

All i'm saying being : i'm not convinced that the amount of new mined coins is causing the price drop and i'm not convinced that halving the block reward will help.

LEARN TO READ !

Also, how halving the block reward will reduce the number of coins being dumped? Huh

There will be less coins but according to you they'll be worth more ! So it would be the same. Like I said before, your logic is flawed.

Once again, the price is not driven by the block reward but by the buyers and sellers.

Dude really? You're not convinced that new coins being mined and sold with no buy pressure causes the price to drop? Are you serious??? Lowering the block reward would mean less coins being mined and dumped every day. So there would not need to be as much buy pressure to just keep the price STABLE let alone go up.

DEVS - PLEASE LOWER THE BLOCK REWARD!

Lets take a poll, and please post the amount of VTC you currently own.

I have 5000 VTC, and I vote- LOWER THE BLOCK REWARD, NOW

not every single coin mined is being sold on the market only free electricity miners will be dumping as soon as mined and those are a small %

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