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Lol you guys are delusional.

Price of VTC is far from steady, if effectively lost 50% in 2 weeks period.

What do you think will happen to VTC price if BTC price drop 50% tomorrow ? Do you really believe that VTC is going to jump to .0024 because of this ? What are you guys smoking. If BTC price drop to 600$ the VTC price will be ~65 cents and the marketcap will drop accordingly...

You guys really have an inflationary problem. All POW coins will have this. Miners are here to profit with their rigs and will dump into buyers. That's just how it works. I'm not saying turn this into a POS coin, but this coin is FAR from being a good long term value retainer investment. You need people to buy the 30 000 VTC produced each and every day and they usually do that in masses when a coin reaches certain millstone.

I believe VTC could hit 2 of them in a very short period of time at the start of July when the ASICs get into the game and when they get closer to releasing the SX addres for now I'm very cautious with VTC. I bought 2k's yesterday and I'm very likely to dump them again as there is literally no support as of now and thing might just heat up in 2 weeks from now which is a very long time in cryptoland.

I have always been a believer of VTC, until recently I have had a lot of them but I have learned to not try to catch a falling knives, you might hurt yourself. I believe VTC might stabilize soon, once it's not longer ROI positive to mine it, only the firm believer will do and they will hold, until then. Be careful.


I honestly don't believe an altcoins USD value normally correlates BTC.

For any coin to start getting pumped, it brings a bunch of panic buyers. For BTC to start pumping, it's going to catch everyone's attention. Judging from posts and discussions, everyone is trying to catch the next great bubble.

Once the BTC pump settles, everyone will go back to what they were doing.


The real value of a coin is labeled in XXX/BTC. If your coin loses 50% of XXX you effectively lost 50% of your market cap compared to the BTC value. I sold my 20k VTC around 0.024 last pump as I didn't believe VTC would be able to keep the money influx from getting in and now even tho as you people say VTC is still 1$~ I can buy TWICE as many VTC with what I sold because VTC valuation compared to BTC dropped in half.

I don't ask for VTC to be worth .01 overnight but with the POW being this "early" still with the block rewards, we ARE going to see VTC at .001. There is just no way around this. VTC is still the top dog when we talk about mining and miner WILL dump it. They have no choice but to dump it ( most of them). They HAVE to ROI as it is still profitable to M&D... See the LTC graph, it goes by wave all the time, every time and then steady decline. You are MUCH better to dump now and panic buy 3 weeks from now than to keep and hold. You will have twice as many VTC with that strategy.
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Lol you guys are delusional.

Price of VTC is far from steady, if effectively lost 50% in 2 weeks period.

What do you think will happen to VTC price if BTC price drop 50% tomorrow ? Do you really believe that VTC is going to jump to .0024 because of this ? What are you guys smoking. If BTC price drop to 600$ the VTC price will be ~65 cents and the marketcap will drop accordingly...

You guys really have an inflationary problem. All POW coins will have this. Miners are here to profit with their rigs and will dump into buyers. That's just how it works. I'm not saying turn this into a POS coin, but this coin is FAR from being a good long term value retainer investment. You need people to buy the 30 000 VTC produced each and every day and they usually do that in masses when a coin reaches certain millstone.

I believe VTC could hit 2 of them in a very short period of time at the start of July when the ASICs get into the game and when they get closer to releasing the SX addres for now I'm very cautious with VTC. I bought 2k's yesterday and I'm very likely to dump them again as there is literally no support as of now and thing might just heat up in 2 weeks from now which is a very long time in cryptoland.




I honestly don't believe an altcoins USD value normally correlates BTC.

For any coin to start getting pumped, it brings a bunch of panic buyers. For BTC to start pumping, it's going to catch everyone's attention. Judging from posts and discussions, everyone is trying to catch the next great bubble.

Once the BTC pump settles, everyone will go back to what they were doing.
sr. member
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you guys dumping on people or what?..it's ur coin, pump it to 0.01 on stealth addresses project.. and people will panic buy
sr. member
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Lol you guys are delusional.

Price of VTC is far from steady, if effectively lost 50% in 2 weeks period.

What do you think will happen to VTC price if BTC price drop 50% tomorrow ? Do you really believe that VTC is going to jump to .0024 because of this ? What are you guys smoking. If BTC price drop to 600$ the VTC price will be ~65 cents and the marketcap will drop accordingly...

You guys really have an inflationary problem. All POW coins will have this. Miners are here to profit with their rigs and will dump into buyers. That's just how it works. I'm not saying turn this into a POS coin, but this coin is FAR from being a good long term value retainer investment. You need people to buy the 30 000 VTC produced each and every day and they usually do that in masses when a coin reaches certain millstone.

I believe VTC could hit 2 of them in a very short period of time at the start of July when the ASICs get into the game and when they get closer to releasing the SX addres for now I'm very cautious with VTC. I bought 2k's yesterday and I'm very likely to dump them again as there is literally no support as of now and thing might just heat up in 2 weeks from now which is a very long time in cryptoland.


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whats going on?
well this going on:

- no bigger good news for vtc lastly (well devs wrote that working on stealth but its still long ride and still not sure if will be the thing that will catch real attention)
- loads of holders believe that vtc is not dropping (hehe somehow instead that vtc is valued in btc in 99% cases many defending drop that its still is strong vs dollar... But honestly? well I am not one of them!)
- yesterday some info about asic for n-scrypt appeared - thats from the possible bad news that can head vtc even lower (generally I shit on this info as for me still vtc is not resistant because of n-factor but because it will make solution when needed...)
- loads believe vtc will dip even more... I would say its heading to ever lowest minimum that had 0.001235 btc around ... so still looks like will lose more on values.... (but who knows, might rise between, or might go even lower)....

I mine it... but basing on how most think and do about vtc I have feeling that as faster selling mined vtc for btc as much will profit. Will say it straight - I do believe in BTC! So if btc will rise and I know this ... and all knows well that if btc rise and vtc dropping... then whats the conclusion? :/

I am verter... mining hard vtc... doing all to not break market if deciding on selling single coin... but honestly reminding what I wrote weeks ago - IF price will be dropping like this ... vtc can be found at so big hole that even few whales wont safe it :/

Anyway still observing... when I see base to think it will rise and rise I will then most probably jump into buying... for now I am waiting as still have feeling to see it way deeper ..


here you go... here is the true you all know but somehow cant follow it Sad
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You may not care but don't blame me when the diff starts rising while the price is falling.  This think WILL hit market, and when it does we need to be ready.  All this talk about VTC beating ASIC, but "no one cares".  Not very inspiring.

We are ready! We do care!

Me too!
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wtf is wrong with vtc, and why that small sell orders on cryptsy..do something please
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You may not care but don't blame me when the diff starts rising while the price is falling.  This think WILL hit market, and when it does we need to be ready.  All this talk about VTC beating ASIC, but "no one cares".  Not very inspiring.

We are ready! We do care!
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Buy wall gone, destination oblivion :/
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Cryptomancer
In Q3 we will have SCRYPT / SCRYPT-N ASIC.
Soon we will start taking pre-orders.

You guys see this?  Seems legit.

It seems no one care, because ASICs will never mine Vertcoin. Regardless of algo. Dev will change algo in case of some nasty ASIC on the horizon.

+1

This whole scenario has been planned out and discussed among the community long ago.

VTC will get forked and there will be a lot of unhappy ASIC Scrypt-N owners.

I would only see it doing well for VTC. After forking, news will break out that the developers mean it when they say ASIC resistance. ASIC customers hoping to mine VTC will spread their despairs, ultimately self-promoting Vertcoin.

This isn't a dedicated Scrypt-N miner, customers will be paying for an Scrypt miner that happens to mine Scrypt-N as a bonus.  I know if I bought one, I would mine VTC, especially if it was more profitable on that day.  You may not care but don't blame me when the diff starts rising while the price is falling.  This think WILL hit market, and when it does we need to be ready.  All this talk about VTC beating ASIC, but "no one cares".  Not very inspiring.
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In Q3 we will have SCRYPT / SCRYPT-N ASIC.
Soon we will start taking pre-orders.

You guys see this?  Seems legit.

It seems no one care, because ASICs will never mine Vertcoin. Regardless of algo. Dev will change algo in case of some nasty ASIC on the horizon.

+1

This whole scenario has been planned out and discussed among the community long ago.

VTC will get forked and there will be a lot of unhappy ASIC Scrypt-N owners.


I would only see it doing well for VTC. After forking, news will break out that the developers mean it when they say ASIC resistance. ASIC customers hoping to mine VTC will spread their despairs, ultimately self-promoting Vertcoin.
legendary
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In Q3 we will have SCRYPT / SCRYPT-N ASIC.
Soon we will start taking pre-orders.

You guys see this?  Seems legit.

It seems no one care, because ASICs will never mine Vertcoin. Regardless of algo. Dev will change algo in case of some nasty ASIC on the horizon.
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Are we going to forward with a higher N if lightningasic does release an asic that supports a lower N? or are we going to change algo?
+1 higher N.


definitely higher N is better solution - because was announced and planned from the beginning
change algo is last choice solution, imho

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Are we going to forward with a higher N if lightningasic does release an asic that supports a lower N? or are we going to change algo?
+1 higher N.
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Are we going to forward with a higher N if lightningasic does release an asic that supports a lower N? or are we going to change algo?
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I'd agree with all those points, but the coin needs more to offer for it to make it big.
Other than asic resistance, and currently stealth addresses, legitimate uses for the coin.

As for human stupidity, yeah, people with money are still people. I wouldn't make money day trading if people with money weren't stupid too.

You forgot merged mining.
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