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Excellent post by stompix  Grin

The fact they failed to squirm their way on to the Chipmixer campaign hurt them a lot. These imbeciles are not representative of the Turkish board members, it is just a handful of them trying to become representatives. thankfully the Turkish board members are of a different thinking to this bunch that colludes with merit abuse and fake trust circles to manipulate their way to DT all with the purpose to go on to some sort of power trip and to get on to higher paying campaigns.


What this all comes down to is money. Lol

Oh no...How can you say something like this?

Is it because after crypto talk campaign was closed down...
Vispilio  went from 6.6 posts per day to 0 since January 27?
or because
otto_diesel went from 5.7 to 0?
or
Aqualung89 (positive trust <>vispilio) went from  5.7  a day to 5 in a week?
or
dannybrown from 5.3  a day to again 5 in a week?
or the merit source seeker forumalacali that wanted to be so involved in the forum but went missing on January 24?

Neah, it's a coincidence.
Just a how the most respected contributor, the one and only wolwoo went from 20 in two days on average in November December to 20 in twenty days.  Cheesy

Read my lips!
Koh-in-si-duns!
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forumalacali was a regular poster in Altcointurk telegram channel. He’s not sent any message since 23 January to the group. He seems to be busy these days.
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What this all comes down to is money. Lol

Oh no...How can you say something like this?

Is it because after crypto talk campaign was closed down...
Vispilio  went from 6.6 posts per day to 0 since January 27?
or because
otto_diesel went from 5.7 to 0?
or
Aqualung89 (positive trust <>vispilio) went from  5.7  a day to 5 in a week?
or
dannybrown from 5.3  a day to again 5 in a week?
or the merit source seeker forumalacali that wanted to be so involved in the forum but went missing on January 24?

Neah, it's a coincidence.
Just a how the most respected contributor, the one and only wolwoo went from 20 in two days on average in November December to 20 in twenty days.  Cheesy

Read my lips!
Koh-in-si-duns!

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If you don’t do PGP, you don’t do crypto!
[~purported statistics presented to lead people down the garden path into arguing over an irrelevant point~]

Hey, I have an astonishing idea that surely no one ever imagined before!

Instead of this:

  • Argue out of both sides of your mouth to show that the Chip campaign is somehow anti-Turkish, and also show that the Chip campaign desperately needs Turkish people for Chip’s own good.
  • Thereupon, insinuate the necessity of some sort of quota for Turkish users.

...why don’t you try this:

  • Come to the forum for the purpose of discussing Bitcoin, make good contributions to the community, enrich your mind and spirit by engaging and giving your time and effort to good people and good causes, and then accept it as a bonus if DarkStar_ decides that ChipMixer should be proud to have its banner displayed beneath all your excellent quality posts!

Many* of the best, most active members of this forum community have categorically refused to wear a paid signature ad of any kind.  Some of those were eventually attracted to the ChipMixer campaign, because DarkStar_ built a reputation for rejecting bounty-chasers who don’t give a damn about the community.

(* “Many” is not “all”.  I observe this without any disrespect to some of the excellent forum contributors who see fit to advertise other campaigns they deem good, including some of my closest forum friends.)

In the past (long before any of this controversy), I have privately spoken to some Chip advertisers who said that they chose Chip because they perceive it as the cleanest, most reputable campaign:  They came to the forum because they are passionate about Bitcoin, and they want to engage with the community.  The ChipMixer signature lets them afford to spend less time at their dayjobs, and more time doing what they love on the forum—without looking like a bounty-chasing sigspammer!  That is a remarkable achievement by DarkStar_, and a win-win public benefit provided by ChipMixer’s generous budget for the campaign.

Indeed, it is ChipMixer’s excellent reputation that has attracted me to advertise them for free, to make a point about the importance of supporting privacy.

Now, let’s see what good you bring to the forum.  On a thread created by a whackjob who has launched a defamatory smear of Chip because he believes that a “DT Chipmixer mafia” is hoarding all the “lucrative bounties” that he so covets, you have made some exemplary contributions to the community:

Dishonorable worm and self admitted "lauda ass eating newt" ~nullius

lauda and her masochistic gimp

~Lauda is the worst thing that ever happened on this forum, a pure evil, dysfunctional, nasty wretch who would be quickly apprehended and locked up in either a jail or a mental institution in real life, has managed to terrorize and even build a fake "cult following" on the once leading crypto forum...

petty criminal ~Lauda and her ass licker ~nullius



do your worst, you and your ass licking zombie newt buddy are finished here, real life police investigations into your parasitic terroristic lives should follow.

Funny, that:  Lauda so happens to wear a non-Chip advertisement; and I have thus far refused paid advertising altogether.  But evidently, we must be the evil ringleaders of the ChipMixer Mafia.  MUAHAHAHAHA!

Anyway, as an outsider and a member of the public, I would be quite disappointed if your irrational thinking, low-quality vulgar writing, and raw greed as you hereby display were to be found consistent with the Chip ad’s reputation for being affixed to quality posts by caring members of the forum community.

My unofficial advice as an outside observer is that if you want a slot in any campaign with high standards, then you should renounce signature ads altogether for awhile, focus on building a positive community in the Turkish local forum, write good-quality posts because you want to, and otherwise be motivated to engage with others here for some reason other than being paid for it.  Who knows?  Maybe DarkStar_ will notice that!  Though the trick is, there will be nothing for him to notice if you’re just faking some good behaviour for the ulterior motive of getting his attention.  Plenty of people contribute to this forum for sincere reasons; and I observe that they tend to be the ones who get Chip ad slots.



P.S., I am mildly curious about what “real life police” you are reporting me to.  As I pointed out in the other thread, you had better report me to all the police in the whole wide world:  You have no idea what country I am located in. :-)
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Excellent analysis by @Nadziratel, the wide-scope surveys he cites provide further mathematical support for this thread:


Thank you for your clarification.
We all are watching your works in this campaign.
Everyone expresses his opinion as far as I read. I'd like to say a few things if you let me.


Moreover, ChipMixer's most important function is its ability to provide anonymity. And this is more important in some countries than others.

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As you can see in the image below, the use of cryptocurrencies is widespread by countries as follows;
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What this all comes down to is money. Lol
legendary
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Terminated.
do your worst, you and your ass licking zombie newt buddy are finished here, real life police investigations into your parasitic terroristic lives should follow.
By who, the corrupt Turkish police? Cheesy
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Dishonorable worm and self admitted "lauda ass eating newt" ~nullius lists 5 reasons why Turkish users should be blacklisted on a pm to suchmoon:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53741173

The most dishonorable worm to have ever crawled this forum is having private discussions with the self appointed "nanny of the forum" as to why it would be in the best interests of everyone to conduct a purge on the Turkish section...

Maybe after this physical evidence Darkstar_ & ChipMixer can finally understand how easily they were played all these years and rethink some of their decisions.

The real reason why lauda and her masochistic ass licker are so eager to defame every influential Turkish member:

it was incidentally a now banned Turkish member (olcaytu), who ran a successful bounty site (off forum) who provided mathematical evidence that Lauda was breaking many laws in her endless perverse quests of vengeance against the local section; she now understands that her very survival on this forum rests on the complete elimination of all veteran Turkish members...

~Lauda is the worst thing that ever happened on this forum, a pure evil, dysfunctional, nasty wretch who would be quickly apprehended and locked up in either a jail or a mental institution in real life, has managed to terrorize and even build a fake "cult following" on the once leading crypto forum...

For this forum to survive and flourish, petty criminal ~Lauda and her ass licker ~nullius should be blacklisted from the entire DT system,
not just DT1, which makes it meaningless, because in that case some dt1 mafia members simply add these useful trolls to their trust list from time to time to insure their fascistic control over all Trust decisions...  
Quoted for reference.

do your worst, you and your ass licking zombie newt buddy are finished here, real life police investigations into your parasitic terroristic lives should follow.
legendary
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Terminated.
Dishonorable worm and self admitted "lauda ass eating newt" ~nullius lists 5 reasons why Turkish users should be blacklisted on a pm to suchmoon:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53741173

The most dishonorable worm to have ever crawled this forum is having private discussions with the self appointed "nanny of the forum" as to why it would be in the best interests of everyone to conduct a purge on the Turkish section...

Maybe after this physical evidence Darkstar_ & ChipMixer can finally understand how easily they were played all these years and rethink some of their decisions.

The real reason why lauda and her masochistic ass licker are so eager to defame every influential Turkish member:

it was incidentally a now banned Turkish member (olcaytu), who ran a successful bounty site (off forum) who provided mathematical evidence that Lauda was breaking many laws in her endless perverse quests of vengeance against the local section; she now understands that her very survival on this forum rests on the complete elimination of all veteran Turkish members...

~Lauda is the worst thing that ever happened on this forum, a pure evil, dysfunctional, nasty wretch who would be quickly apprehended and locked up in either a jail or a mental institution in real life, has managed to terrorize and even build a fake "cult following" on the once leading crypto forum...

For this forum to survive and flourish, petty criminal ~Lauda and her ass licker ~nullius should be blacklisted from the entire DT system,
not just DT1, which makes it meaningless, because in that case some dt1 mafia members simply add these useful trolls to their trust list from time to time to insure their fascistic control over all Trust decisions...  
Quoted for reference. Keep at it, log in more accounts.
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Dishonorable worm and self admitted "lauda ass eating newt" ~nullius lists 5 reasons why Turkish users should be disqualified on a pm to suchmoon:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53741173

The most dishonorable worm to have ever crawled this forum is having private discussions with the self appointed "nanny of the forum" as to why it would be in the best interests of everyone to conduct a purge on the Turkish section...

Maybe after this physical evidence Darkstar_ & ChipMixer can finally understand how easily they were played all these years and rethink some of their decisions.

The real reason why lauda and her masochistic gimp are so eager to defame every influential Turkish member:

it was incidentally a now banned Turkish member (olcaytu), who ran a successful bounty site (off forum) who provided mathematical evidence that Lauda was breaking many laws in her endless perverse quests of vengeance against the local section; she now understands that her very survival on this forum rests on the complete elimination of all veteran Turkish members...

~Lauda is the worst thing that ever happened on this forum, a pure evil, dysfunctional, nasty wretch who would be quickly apprehended and locked up in either a jail or a mental institution in real life, has managed to terrorize and even build a fake "cult following" on the once leading crypto forum...

For this forum to survive and flourish, petty criminal ~Lauda and her ass licker ~nullius should be blacklisted from the entire DT system,
not just DT1, which makes it meaningless, because in that case some dt1 mafia members simply add these useful trolls to their trust list from time to time to insure their fascistic control over all Trust decisions...  
legendary
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Terminated.
This rating on nullius is a lie, and combined with the OP you are way out of line. You're out of line for a normal member, let alone a DT1 member.

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Vispilio    2020-01-24   Reference   Trying to silence dissenting opinions in the forum by conducting financially damaging black propaganda operations.

The pure vitriol and bile in most of this "plague"-infested obvious alt account's msgs should remind admin of a master criminal he personally blacklisted from the Trust system about a year ago...

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2run                   2020-01-24      Türk forumuna katkılarından dolayı kendisinden çok şey öğrendim. benim için Türk forumunda güvenilebilir bir kaç üyeden birisi.
dannybrown      2020-01-24      Yardımsever,dürüst ve oldukça aktif bir üye.Kendisine güveniyorum.
gospodin           2020-01-24      Scam savaşçısı. Dt sistemini üyelere tanıtan, blockchain ve kripto para ile ilgili local bölümdeki insanlara güzel bilgiler sunan insan evladı.
These users will need to be considered, and also likely need to be tagged & excluded for evident abuse and nepotism.
legendary
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Even the criminal lawyer better call TECSHARE didn't come to their help this time. He must have been sick and tired of defending these absolute morons.
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There is more than enough evidence, observations and analysis on this thread for theymos to take decisive action and for ChipMixer to reconsider
some of their selections over the years as they are the primary financially damaged party here.
Chipmixer can never be financially damaged just because imbeciles that manipulated their way on to DT failed in their attempt to get money for promoting them. I think it would be better for Chipmixer to avoid being associated with those that recently exposed their ulterior motives.


So for all the colluders or conspirators, you don't need to embarrass yourselves further by giving 20+ merits to childish low level content from a low-skill, low-info nobody just because he has duped himself into supporting your own agendas for free.
Though your intention is to allude of merit abuse between certain members that confronted those merit abusers, the truth is those members from the Turkish language board that have just lost their DT rank are the ones that your statement could be pointed at.


Every other troll and wannabe assassin we observed on this thread like JollyGood and marlboroza can at least be understood on a human level in that they are doing what they are doing to be part of a broken corrupt system that promises them considerable monetary reward.
marlboroza and I are not "trolls and wannabe assassins"


From that perspective, user ~mindrust might be the most miserable and dumbest individual ever encountered on an internet forum because he participates in evil not for any personal gain, but because in his warped self-hating broken psychology, he positively enjoys it...
mindrust is a user that contributes actively and positively to this forum. I fail to see anything positive you have brought to the global/English board though I have not looked through your Turkish language board posts.


My skin crawls when I have to expend even 1 sentence on such sub-human characters like mindrust, nevertheless I hope these revelations can help him start on a path of redemption and moral well being.
Your choice of words make it very hard to distinguish between which member from the Turkish language board made it. It was made by you (evidently) but it had all the hallmarks of trash that could have been posted by Blacknavy, wolwoo, Vispilio and several others.

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This thread is an great example of how mobbing could happen here on an mass level, and trust system is used as an tool for it even if the person in question is in no way an harm to the forum ecosystem financially or has scammed anyone, with real victims. Let alone critizing or questioning the bheviour of ChipMixer and it's participants made an openly speaking DT ruin down his repo to the level his own profile got painted in reds.

I think this has just made more people afraid of speaking concerns of not only ChipMixer but any other campaign containing DT powered members in that amount, as it could result in tearing down your own identity here later. Patahic approach.
The first half of the OP, I think is a legitimate topic, but the second half is where it crosses the line. (maybe it isn't quite half).

It is, and should be perfectly legitimate to question why a large campaign is not being represented in a large local sub(if this was the case). I don't think it is legitimate to assume racism is the answer to this question. I don't know why no one in the Turkish local sub was not previously accepted into the CM campaign, but I do know there has been a lot of shady business and shenanigans going on among Turkish forum members for years. With the advent of the merit system, it has turned into something very similar to corruption and/or nepotism when they give eachother merit for questionable reasons, plus the acceptance of giving alts merit among Turkish community members.

The problem at one point was very likely because there was a group of Turkish members who apparently knew eachother IRL, and this may still be the case.

The OP does not exactly have a clean history himself. I don't necessarily agree with the text of some of the ratings he recently received, but I can't say I disagree with the OP having negative ratings in general.
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This thread is an great example of how mobbing could happen here on an mass level, and trust system is used as an tool for it even if the person in question is in no way an harm to the forum ecosystem financially or has scammed anyone, with real victims. Let alone critizing or questioning the bheviour of ChipMixer and it's participants made an openly speaking DT ruin down his repo to the level his own profile got painted in reds.

I think this has just made more people afraid of speaking concerns of not only ChipMixer but any other campaign containing DT powered members in that amount, as it could result in tearing down your own identity here later. Patahic approach.

This point is most concern to members. This point need attention.

Chipmixers I don't think racist for Turkish. It just they prefer to select from group of people that are each friend of each other. If when look post history , merit, trust list a group of friends like to help each other gain merits, default trust and chipmixers signature. It not a problem   It not a worry if they do not red trust member for opinion. Chipmixers not only signature can find another. Let them keep it with their friends and just go another way.

If you think it bad not a fair way Contact chipmixers or bitcointalk owner to explain how change will be best way. Chipmixers signature manager can come and tell his ideas.
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(sad shell of a human being drowning in hatred against his own former nation)

There is more than enough evidence, observations and analysis on this thread for theymos to take decisive action and for ChipMixer to reconsider
some of their selections over the years as they are the primary financially damaged party here.

So for all the colluders or conspirators, you don't need to embarrass yourselves further by giving 20+ merits to childish low level content from a low-skill, low-info dilettante just because he has duped himself into supporting your own agendas for free.

Every other troll and wannabe assassin we observed on this thread like JollyGood and marlboroza can at least be understood on a human level in that they are doing what they are doing to be part of a broken corrupt system that promises them considerable monetary reward.

From that perspective, user ~mindrust might be the most miserable and dumbest individual ever encountered on an internet forum because he participates in evil not for any personal gain, but because in his warped self-hating broken psychology, he positively enjoys it...


My skin crawls when I have to expend even 1 sentence on such sub-human characters like mindrust, nevertheless I hope these revelations can help him start on a path of redemption and moral well being.

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The problem here was that you slander all Turkish users over a mistake a person made. You are a Turkish citizen, but you are not Turkish. You're just a insidious trying to look like a good guy.

Take your 50 bucks to lick as you have been doing so far.

See? that's what I am talking about.

Quoted, and archived.

You just did everything I explained in 3 sentences.

Bringing out the race card, check
Making it about signatures, check
Siding with the guy who did the mistake, check

You are the perfect example of what's going wrong.

And about your fourth sentence, I might be the most evil fuck ever existed but you can't know that. It is my past actions what make me trusted or not. Just like everybody else. I can't be held responsible for the shit I haven't done. But you and everybody else (including me) is responsible for what they (we) did.

When you receive the pathetic reply you just did after making that excellent post, it clearly demonstrates the lack of sense of morality and immaturity that some members have displayed throughout this process.

Somehow there is a sense of irony about all this recent flurry of activity which brought some of these users out of their shell.

The collusion between just a handful of users that resulted in them trying to become the sole representatives of the Turkish board has failed. None of them are trusted by the larger community, they have been removed from DT and with the exception a few users in their local language board - their reputation rightfully lay in tatters.

Before they started this campaign of collusion they manoeuvred themselves in to position trying to dupe the wider community that they had good intentions but their motive for personal gain was their own downfall. Greed drove them and as a result they failed so after they were rightfully tackled in the forum by all sorts of members they resorted to claiming they were racially targeted and played the role of victims instead. Again that was not an entirely unexpected reaction as they were in desperate need to try to deflect attention away.

Until or unless these members that brought so much negative drama to the forum reform their character they should not be trusted. It has to be mentioned that if it was not for their blind following and supporting Yobit they might not have been tackled for several months yet so the fact they failed in their collusion attempts plus with the majority of the community happy Yobit seem to be leaving the forum - it is a great result that should hopefully benefit this forum and change this toxic atmosphere created by a handful of attention seeking intellectually inept users.



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Mindfuck

The problem here was that you slander all Turkish users over a mistake a person made. You are a Turkish citizen, but you are not Turkish. You're just a insidious trying to look like a good guy.

Take your 50 bucks to lick as you have been doing so far.

See? that's what I am talking about.

Quoted, and archived.

You just did everything I explained above in your 4 sentence post.

Bringing out the race card, check
Making it about signatures, check
Siding with the guy who did the mistake, check

You are the perfect example of what's going wrong.

And about your fourth sentence, I might be the most evil fuck ever existed but you can't know that. It is my past actions what make me trusted or not. Just like everybody else. I can't be held responsible for the shit I haven't done. But you and everybody else (including me) is responsible for what they (we) did.
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Mindfuck

The problem here was that you slander all Turkish users over a mistake a person made. You are a Turkish citizen, but you are not Turkish. You're just a insidious trying to look like a good guy.

Take your 50 bucks to lick as you have been doing so far.
legendary
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I'll try my best to explain why is this fuckery keeps happening around the Turkish forum:

First let me tell you this; as eaLiTy* earlier said, we are all netizens here. Your home country, your language, your real life friends we don't give a fuck about.

When a Turkish dude does something against the forum rules (could be merit trading, could be plagiarism or real life threat, spamming whatever), instead of taking action against that user, almost everybody (that includes the Turkish forum mod EFS) either chooses to ignore him (that's the best case) or supports him.

When you support a bad apple, you become no better than the bad apple itself. Some of those bad apples are real life friends of the other neutral apples (for now). In this situation you have 2 choices: You either kick the bad apple out, or you get kicked out with him.

Almost %99.9 of the time, the Turkish community choose to side with the bad apples.

It also happened months ago when there was a merit cycling crap happening there just like something similar is happening now. I was against that shit back in the day, as I am against this now. Nothing has changed. (Not for me, not for them)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/flagtagexclusion-request-turkish-section-gang-5153507


As far as I see, the dt people here don't support scammers/account farmers etc even when they are their own countrymen as it should be. Similar thing happened with Bill Gator look what happened to his account after he admitted that he bought his account... Bam he is no more. What country he was from? Who was his friends? Nobody fucking cares. He is done.

Kenzawak, somebody I liked much as by many people in WO. After his account got hacked multiple times, he is not trusted anymore. He is gone. He was from Europe. France? Maybe, I forgot.

Same logic.

Tldr;
Don't trust morons if you don't want to be seen as a moron even though you were always one. You can still hide your  own low IQ as long as you don't support scammers but even that was too hard for them.

You either do your own cleaning or somebody does it for you.
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