Topic: 🔥 Vile Chipmixer Bounty Abuse 🔥 Probably the Biggest Con Job on Bitcointalk - page 5. (Read 4129 times)

Sit back and relax and think for yourself, is it not excessive when there are users here wanting to have a dedicated board while we only have 20 local boards and one skandinavisk local board which includes users from Sweden, Norway and Denmark and we have 195 countries and here you are trolling about the unconstitutional selection procedure in a campaign that only one Turk is selected in the campaign  .
Chill out mate have fun once in a while rather than taking things personally  .

Apologies for the mistake. My method of going through applications has been to use my alt account, and put anyone who I am not accepting onto that account's ignore list temporarily. Most likely, I saw your post in the thread, took a quick look through your posts, decided that you didn't particularly meet what I was looking for (I had other "better" Turkish members apply) and denied the "application", even though it didn't exist.

I'm pretty sure that even if some members are spreading false or even true accusations to those turkish applicants Darkstar's decision would remain unbiased and he will just accept the best members of the forum applying for their campaign. Darkstar would still personally check each applications and do some background checks but mostly the one who will get that spot will be about who posts the educated and of high quality posts here in the forum. And maybe it is the main reason why the Turkish board isn't having any members part of ChipMixer.

Are you going to provide evidence to back up your words or not?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53682633

I agree wholeheartedly with both of these statements, suchmoon.  I have never seen a more nationalistic community than the Turkish one--or at least they have the most members loudly vocalizing such sentiments.  But the truth is that I don't think anyone in power on this forum is against members from Turkey.  I certainly don't have any problems with them because of where they live or what religion they practice. 

It's the behavior of some of these members that disturbs me--it's almost radically nationalistic and not just a little bit paranoid, too.  And as I said previously, the issue in this thread is about the Chipmixer campaign and I'm not sure some folks realize just how competitive it really is.  Hell, I got rejected once and I know other members who've been rejected multiple times.  You just have to roll with it and not take it as an affront to 1) you, personally; 2) your nationality; or 3) your religion or political affiliation. 

Railing on about the unfairness of it all is simply ridiculous.  We're all dealing with the same world and the same unfairness and many of the same problems.  Why bitch to people who've got their own fucking problems?

I'm disappointed that my application was rejected, but I can't seem find any factors on which to deflect any blame.

1. I'm of Arab ethnicity, but that doesn't mean anything.  There are plenty of Arabs in the campaign, ones who actually post in the Arabic local boards (hmmm?)
2. I'm on DT1, but other DT1 members applied and got rejected.
3. I have earned a bunch of merit.  Again, like others who've been rejected.
4. I like DarkStar_, and consider him a friend and mentor.  I would like to think he likes me as a human also, yet I still got rejected.
5. I have DarkStar_ included in my trust settings, and he's included me in his.

So why did I get rejected?  Could it have been a business decision that isn't influenced by my ethnicity, DT status, merit earned, how friendly I am, or my trust settings?  If DarkStar_ thought that my participation would benefit ChipMixer's advertising campaign, I'm sure I would have been selected, but obviously that wasn't the case.  That's the only factor I can imagine would lead to the decision, and I have no reason to suspect any other.


There are three things that really bug me about this thread:

1. A sense of entitlement.
2. Cries of racism.
3. Inability to accept business decisions for what they are.

@Vispilio, we've had our disagreements, but I don't have anything against you.  I'm sure you're a very helpful member to the Turkish local board, at least it appears that way to me.  But this kind of thinking isn't helping you or the other members of the Turkish board.  Stop trying to make nationalistic or ethnic war out of it.  By doing so you are only adding to the perception that you are incapable of being rational, and indeed it demonstrates poor judgment.

ohhhh shame on me for making a minor tone inflection and showing a little bit of emotion, otherwise the pure sensitive angels of this forum would have obviously done the right thing and spoken up against the glaring injustices being committed daily here, what a missed opportunity for us  


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oh after 3 days of stressful ruminations, and about 100 slanderous messages against me dominating the Reputation section, did the "famiglia" finally let Darkstar_ include 1 Turk ?.. Wow what a provably fair outcome  

Even going by the bare minimum statistics, Turkish boards should have already had at least 2 members representing Chipmixer, before Darkstar_ was begrudgingly convinced that it would be the "politically correct" strategic move to include one...

I actually tryed to emphatise with you in the beginning , and understand why it has come to this thread and maybe there was some truth behind it .
But seeing this last post you've just made ....  You're a complete waste of oxygen . You speak of discrimination , "racism" , but this post you made is the exact same thing , if not worse then what you're accusing Darkstar of .
You sir are an retard .  And I'd suggest to stop watching action movies , and focus on a hobby that actually has a connection to reality , and not your fanatic , turkish version of Liam Neeson wannabe.

And do what, exactly? Theymos allowed hundreds of bounty campaigns to spam the forum while paying participants in made-up tokens. If he didn't stop that, there's no way he's going to interfere in a Bitcoin paying campaign that doesn't break forum rules.

From what I've seen, "the Turkish community" is something that only people inside that community see as something that separates them from the rest of the forum. I couldn't care less which country you live in, and I'm pretty sure most forum users think that way.

If you didn't apply for the campaign, your post was off-topic. DarkStar_ assumed you applied, and rejected you. Since you didn't even want to apply, I don't really see what the problem is.

So you're saying you can't call it racism if you don't get selected for a job that 150 other people applied for too?

It must have been that Kalemder pretended to be turkish all this time but he is actually not. I’m sure he PM’ed DarkStar with his non-turkish KYC otherwise he wouldn’t have been accepted. What other explanation would there be?

Would it be racist if I suggested to Vispilio that it's time to unbunch her panties and lock the thread?

You have to update topic with TRUE INFORMATION https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53682169, don't just post lies!

I have no idea what Vispilio is talking about, I don't have any voting power. I asked to be blacklisted from DT long time ago and as I am aware I am still blacklisted. I literally asked forum members to exclude me. There are 2 of my threads mentioning this.

I will always counter which I think is wrong -ve feedback, especially if it is wrong retaliatory feedback.


On side note, I wonder if behavior of certain individuals is somehow related to some tagging in the past, because something reminds me so much of Tokensuit's team member rants(please read posts inside these topic):

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/trust-sytem-or-trusted-member-list-must-be-removed-5138319
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/theymos-is-a-scammer-lets-talk-5138273
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/olcaytu2005-is-scammer-lets-talk-5138312

And they actually asked theymos to ban account! Sound familiar?


This topic is black PR and defamation.

There's no coordinated attack in progress against the Turkish community--that's all in your head, sorry to say.  Nor is this some sort of case of racism/nationalism/whatever on the part of DarkStar_ or Chipmixer or anyone else.  The campaign is extremely competitive and there aren't that many slots.

Blue-blooded native English speakers get turned down from Chipmixer all the time.  It doesn't have anything to do with where you're from, because I can almost guarantee you DarkStar_ doesn't even know in most cases.  It all has to do with how good your post quality is and a secondary consideration is how trusted on the forum you are (as I understand it). 

This thread reeks of jealousy and playing the race card, even though there isn't exactly a specific race involved that I know of.

First thing is, theymos has nothing to do with signature campaign.

Second thing is, if a company or chipmixer think that they don't need to advertise on Turkish board or any other specific boards then we have nothing to do. Its their choose they could assign their representatives accordingly. Always there is some requirements from the team and campaign manager work accordingly. It wouldn't be granted if a participant complained why he were not accepted. As stated on the campaign rules, Darkstar reserve all the right as below,


So whoever will apply they should read all the rules very well. Complain about not accepted isn't appropriate on this case. Should everyone blam to CM who had not accepted? If say I am quality poster bla bla bla then it will not change the fact. A manager know very well what kind of participants he need. It's just not for chipmixer, I believe every manager look for participants according to his requirements.

Hey, I've prepared 2 gifs for your return but I've only seen that the thread is locked just after I finished them so I'll reply them here, I don't want that my work to be in vain:
How do you think it went when you came back :
https://i.imgur.com/Yq7ZjAl.gif
How it actually went:
https://i.imgur.com/gP4kJ7B.gif

So your position is that theymos should have the final word in all the campaigns and he should dictate who is selected in which campaign and hope you understand that is what you are implying here .

You cannot have a situation where everyone is happy and that is life, i have seen race card thrown around as if someone is targeting certain individuals, we are Netizen here and no one is representing any race or country and so is the reason you and me use an alias.

DT selection is another topic altogether and i am not going to comment on that but selection on a signature campaign is the discretion of the campaign manager and Chipmixer is just another signature campaign for theymos.

As for the drama we had many in the past and still many more to come as there will be conflict of interest as this is a diverse forum with different ideas and cultural background, if you think you will be targeted you have the option to decide whether to get involved or not.

PS: i am not here to trash your opinion, just made my point as the race card is thrown around many times.
  




  

The sense of entitlement is just astonishing.

And the whole pseudo-patriotic bickering would be defeating your whole case if you had one.

Guys please keep your personal debates to yourself, it's completely off topic, I responded to mindrust briefly because of his endless hate against his own nation,
and I really believe it can help him a lot as a person,

no more issues regarding mindrust. Good luck to both of you.


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for the benefit of all future readers, the last meaningful msgs on this thread are here and here please continue from there

@forumalacali @mindrust

Sorry but, please stop that.

Do you think he is right about his claims?