Topic: VIRUSES DO NOT EXIST: The Virus Hoax created by the Pharma Cartel - page 3. (Read 762 times)

You're a fake, franky1. What's worse is that you know it. Here's what I mean.

When somebody gets sick and is tested, if a virus is found to be the culprit, doctors need to have a bottom-line base somewhere. They need a foundational piece of tested knowledge that they can compare the tests of their patients against, to see and know for a fact that this is what their patients have.

It's like comparing parts. You take the test part from the patient, and you compare it to something that you know for a fact is a virus or bacteria. If the test parts are the same, he has the disease. If they are different, who knows what he has.

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So, let's assume that viruses exist for a moment. Let's even assume that SARS-CoV-2 exists. In order for us to know that SARS-CoV-2 exists, somebody had to do some original tests to prove it.

The process for finding a virus includes several steps... I'm talking the original find. And these steps must be meticulously done so that there are no mistakes made, so that we don't identify something that is not the virus we are looking for. The steps include taking a sample of some body fluid, filtering it, separating it with a centrifuge, etc.

One of the most important steps is to take some of the supposed isolated virus, and inject it into at least dozens of people, but better, into several hundred, to see if any of them get sick. If they get sick just like the original test subject, then the same kinds of fluid need to be taken from all of them, and filtered, and centrifuged, and compared with whatever was taken from the first guy.

Only when they all come up with the same part (virus) comparison as the first guy... only then do we know that we have the right virus.

Of course, if they don't get sick, we need to go back and test the first guy some more. Or we know that the virus was something that only harmed the one guy.

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Throughout all of this, meticulous records need to be kept. They will be used by other doctors to do comparisons when they have sick patients, so they can know which virus the patients have.

If you know what you are talking about, find us an original test report, + the reports from injecting into the several hundred patients, + the reports of those patients showing that they all got sick, all were tested in the same way the first guy was, and all had the same virus.

And don't just throw some links up in a post. Show us wording from the links that prove that the original virus taken from the original sick guy, was injected into the other dozens or hundreds, and that they all got sick, and that their tests showed it was the same virus as the first guy.

You are copy-paste capable, aren't you? I mean, if you can't copy-paste, maybe a buddy could do it for you. Show us a foundational test report, and the part of the report that proves the virus even exists and is dangerous and able to infect other people. I'm talking about the SARS-CoV-2 virus and testing like I briefly explained, above.

so in all that, all you could respond with is by being a grammar nazi

anyway the answers are in the cells and the analysis of the cell. not in your debunked influencers who think its an exosome because they only see a circle and not a square and think all circle things are the same

kaufman referenced a doctors name and then put a quote into it. however the quote does not exist and the doctor kaufman referenced even corrected kaufman as a liar.

so when kaufman says he is basing his opinion on another doctors study. and the other doctor says his study never said the things kaufman pretends it says. and even reading the study shows it never said the stuff kaufman says it did
then kaufmans opinion is based on no study and just a stupid empty opinion kaufman made up

Regarding your link, Solomon said, "The more the words, the less the meaning. And how does that profit anyone."

Why should I continually repeat myself? When you repeat yourself over and over, thinking that you are right because you say it many times, that's a form of science. It's called political science, where lies and everything else are accepted, as long as you can talk longer and louder than somebody who knows what he is talking about.

As long as you think:
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exosomes are domesticated cats
tumour causing agents are wildcats
viruses are wild dogs
vaccines are tamed and domesticated and neutered dogs
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there isn't really any point to any discussion with you. I probably should have listened to tvbcof long ago. But it is kinda fun playing with you.

After all, the things that you say exist all over the place in writings. But the things that I say exist in the cells.



EDIT: One important item that almost proves Kaufman to be right is, in your linked, long-winded article, there is a line that says, "Kaufman's video has now been fllagged by YouTube as 'inappropriate content'—I am sure conspirationists will scream 'censorship'!"

Note the word "fllagged." The joker author is so inept that he can't even do a simple spell check. But I suppose you will tell him about it so that he can change it, so that I will be shown to be wrong when anybody goes to his site.

badecker you ran out of scripts so now your trying to take my words as your own.. thats even more stupid because your flip flops are just getting too noticable

anyway. here is a nice long article that shows kaufmans flawed stupidity
http://www.integralworld.net/visser169.html

summary
corona virus uses ACE-2 as its entry point.
exosomes use many ways as its entry point

corona uses a certain protein to trick a cell into thinking its a product that must be accepted and copied
its this trick protein that is compared to an exosome protein. NOT a corona is a exosome
not that the entire genetic protein makeup are the same
shape function,purpose. are all different

the cells 'factory' doesnt just produce exosomes. they produce whatever blueprint they are handed as long as they have this 'trick protein. so although a virus uses the same factory as an exosome. doesnt mean that it must be an exosome

otherwise your just calling all biology an exosome. and thats just ignorance of the complexities of biology

its like a animal shelter letting any animal in because it has a tail and your trying to say that a cat is a dog because of the tail
but reality tells us a dog looks different to a cat. and has different features and they act differently
a dog mainly can only get in and out of a room via someone opening the door for it.
a cat can use a cat flap or sneak in via a window or use the door

exosomes are a domesticated cat
tumour causing agents are a wildcat
viruses are a wild dog
vaccines are a tamed and domesticated and neutered dog

Come on, franky1. Wake up. All you are trying to do is ignore 21st Century findings, and glue yourself to 20th Century so-called knowledge.

There is a whole new world of information out there. You are maintaining the old info like religious dogma.

In a mere sense of understanding, viruses simply exist within the environment where livings live, so many things causes virus effects and somehow too created. I can't actualise that virus exist or not but the fact is that the great pharma creates global viruses, in year ago, Ebola was created in Nigeria which kills so many lives in the territory but later stopped at some point. So meanwhile corona virus is created too Bubba unknown big fish.

thats where your double wrong
you mean they are making opinions about how OLD viral theories are wrong
because they keep referring to 1800 stuff

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modern virus FACT has debunked your stupid references about their opinion of how they think old viral theories is wrong

modern technology has confirmed viruses. using many methods many instrument many scanners many microscopes many scientific analysis, many chemical studies. many rna sequencing methods

i know your references are taking 1800 studies and saying 1800 studies are wrong because 1800 scientists didnt have nanoscopes(their only formal argument)

but whats not said is modern nanoscopes can see viruses and can see they look different to exosomes and different to bacteria and different to fungus.

and its just funny how you keep ignoring modern science and try to make it seem like modern science has disproved victorian science. when the FACT is that it proves viruses are different to bacteria, fungus and exosomes

They didn't get debunked. Rather, they are debunking modern virus theory and understanding.

I am inclined to agree with your arguments.

But if atomic theory is correct. Then essentially humans ,viruses 🦠, exosome , even pieces of shit are made of

protons neutrons and electrons .

So both you and badecker are simply disagreeing about patterns of protons neutron and electrons.

How do we classify them. How do they react with each other.

Essentially you both could be right and are caught up in semantics of classification.

A pear 🍐 Is eaten  by any animal. Seed not digested falls out in a piece of shit into good soil and grows to a tree 🌳 full of pears 🍐. An animal comes by eats the pears. Takes a dump cycle repeats.

So is a pear a seed a tree or a piece of shit?

I would argue a little of all of the above.
Certainly an animal 🦒 only cares when its a pear.

Certainly if you go to the smaller items that build a pear, a seed ,a tree, a piece of shit, its all protons neutrons electrons. 

Now think of the piece of shit as a virus and think of a pear as an exosome.

When examining them they seem to have zero relationship. but they are involved in a realationship.

Still I side more with your arguments then badeckers .

stupid thing is . in all the links. they got all debunked as no true association with viruses

the 'possible future cures using exosomes' is about cancers.
and about manipulating a exosome to act as a ace2 receptor to latch onto a virus and 'glue' it up so it cant then get into a cell

its nothing about exosomes being a virus or viruses being exosomes. apart from idiot uninformed conspiracy guys and girls trying to create false narratives

a exosome is a delivery truck for a factory... giving it the supplies it needs to continue working as is
a virus is a foreign investor trying to take over and convert the factory to make clones of the investor

atleast stop just reading the summarised opinions from soccer-stay at home mom bloggers like the median article and actually read the studies they pretend say are virus related

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the stupid thing about the kaufman guy is he make stupid slideshows of info that is not correct
corona virus is not 500nm inside a cell
and exosomes are not inside cells at 500nm

exosomes (hint is in the EX) are external to cells and are 30-100nm
exosomes are created by endosomes.. endosomes are inside cells and are 500nm
endosomes are not exosomes but an endosome is a catterpiller to a buttlerfly in badecker analogy

an endosome does not move around the body. an endosome is not a virus either
a corona virus enters and leaves cells and is ~150nm


exosomes contain a evolutionary conserved protein sequence that can show which human cell it came from.
viruses do not, they only contain the viral RNA and there is no human element of evolution history in corona virus

exosomes can be manipulated to be used as a treatment for covid but are not the cause of covid

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https://medium.com/@jaspreetkaur_86935/is-covid19-a-virus-or-mere-an-exosome-da1624022860

https://www.weblyf.com/2020/04/dr-andrew-kaufman-and-the-exosomes-coronavirus-truth/

https://livingfullynourished.com/news/en/2020/04/23/0001/virus-and-exosomes

https://stillnessinthestorm.com/2020/03/scientist-why-everything-you-learned-about-viruses-is-wrong/

https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=virus+exosome+similarities&ia=web

nope exosomes do different things
and no researcher has found any similarity in the function/composition of a exosome.
they know the protein enzyme rna/dna makeup of exosomes
they know the protein enzyme rna makup of viruses

they know that there is no comparison
they know there is no previous-existance state scenario

just you and your idiot snake oil salesmen are the ones that got it wrong
they are trying to SELL you a story that people have pre-existing illnesses before they are ill and their pharma chemicals will cure you of it

they dont treat people for actual sickness.. they deny sickness is a thing and only hidden preexistance is the thing they treat. and when people dont then get sick of the supposed thing they meant to have before ever being sick. they say they cured it.

but when people then do get sick of the thing they been told they got cured of. they avoid taking responsibility for their conartist snake oil sales. and pretend the sickness is caused by something else
EG saying that the respiratory distress and pneumoina and coughing and fever is caused by diabetes. and not covid.

because they dont care about actualy treating people of actual things. they want to make crap up to sell things when people dont need them.. and deny accountability when people do need actual care

^^^ So, now we know from you that caterpillars and butterflies are not the same "animal" at different stages of their life. You might as well state that babies aren't adults at a different stage of their lives.

There are those researchers who understand that viruses and exosomes do some of the same things, and just might be the same "animal" at different stages of their lives so to speak.

and there the idiot proves he is an idiot
"we dont know that exosome and viruses are not the same animal"

meaning he has not proof they are the same . he is just repeating unfounded stupid scripts from people that dont know

however actual science of actual studies and actual experiments know they are completely different

even you categorise a catterpiller/butterfly as different things. even if they share a connection..
however the enzyme/rna/dna/protein studies of exosomes vs virus show no connection/similarity/pre-existance state

i know its hard to grasp that there are more then a handful of biological things .. but there are billions of biological things.

i know your stuck thinking that everything is just a animal, mineral, vegetable. where you can only cope with 3 categories. but there are billions of things
a rose is not an apple tree
a human is not a elephant. even if you want to meander down the historic path of the primordial ooze of millions of years ago. you need to grasp that many things are different for many reasons


and corona virus is not something that mutated from a human in the last few decades or any time in history
so there is no way possible for it to be a pre-existing thing you have in your body that just mutates into a virus to harm just you.

its a foreign pathogen that infects you via cross-contamination of another source ... its not something you always had inside you from birth

What you say has been the opinion for a long time. But we are seeing differently with the Microsphere Nanoscope. The differences that we are seeing are complex enough that scientists and researchers won't be staking their careers on new explanations until they are entirely sure.

As I said in a portion of my previous post, we don't know that exosomes and viruses are not the same "animal" at various stages of life operation. You can find the uncertainty by searching on "are viruses exosomes in disguise."

I admit that presently we don't really know that they are the same. But there are enough similarities that we simply don't know for certain that they are different... as I said about the butterfly in my previous post.

The point regarding Covid is that we are attempting to find and use cures based on a complete understanding. This is why Dr. Fauci is unwilling to use anecdotal cures. But, we have never had the knowledge necessary for knowledgeable cures. All of our virus cures are based on assumptions that we are finding out might not be true, and what we might have been doing all along is really the anecdotal cures, or in-spite-of-ourselves cures.

In other words, our cures were never the answer. They simply worked by accident for reasons other than what we thought.

no they are not
exosomes do different jobs than viruses. they look different. their enzyme, protein and structure are different
they actually can identify and characterise and categorise things. they separate hem by what those differences are

exosomes are not viruses. they dont look, act,function, contain, anything alike
your comparing a fruit apple to a plastic squeeky dog toy and trying to say they the same thing
your comparing a wild tiger to a domesticated dog and trying to say they are the same thing

For you and me and average people, the virus thing is simple. We are ill, and we want to get well, or not get ill in the first place.

For medical people, their description of the virus is what they think makes people ill.

Research what some of the medical people are saying, that exosomes and viruses act similarly in ways that are making them question the whole virus idea.

Consider the caterpillar to butterfly idea. They are the same critter, but they certainly don't look the same at the various stages of life.

Recent advances in microscopy are allowing scientists a better view of the cell, and they are seeing enough differences in cells that the virus idea is being called into question. Some researchers are starting to think that exosomes and viruses are the same "animal" at different stages of life operation... because they can SEE them in living action.

Average doctors are not scientific researchers. They are out to help patients based on what the researchers have found out. So, the virus idea won't go away easily, because it is so ingrained.

okay lets start with:

rabies

so big pharma took a time machine back hundreds of years.

spread a magic spell called it rabies.

if a mad dog bit you certain death.

this floated around europe for hundreds of years.

the shout of mad dog 🐕 was a warning of certain death 💀 if the dog bit you.

big pharma planned it sent another wizard back in time in the 1800s some guy called louie pastur.

you know the guy that invented pasturized milk.

all of this was done to lay the groundwork for all the other fake vaccines 💉 .

once they could fix rabies all stupid people fell into line and simply get vaccines that are no good.


If you don't believe in viruses go kiss a dog with rabies.


that said big pharma has zero need to make money on viruses.

they make money on diabetes. a lot of money.  viruses are risky.
 

you have no clue and your not even describing what viruses or exosomes do..
your just making crap up

have you ever thought to yourself you ug yourself a deep enough hole that its time to realise you got stuck and time to climb out.. or do you just keep digging deeper and losing sight of the solid ground people stand on

you are not on solid ground. realise the hole your in

You don't know for sure that viruses are not exosomes.

There are millions of exosomes and millions of viruses. I bet you could find an exosome that looks exactly like Ebola. Oh wait. We did find that exosome. It's called the Ebola virus.

Corona acts like an exosome at times. All that a virus is, is a phase of operations of an exosome. We don't have enough knowledge to say it isn't.

I'm only posting what other researchers have said. So, you shouldn't demean yourself like that. I mean, you are having a hard enough time maintaining your veracity with yourself. Check with psychiatry. When you attempt to diminish the value of another person, it's because you are there and gone, already. Please, for your own well being, try to build others up, so you don't destroy yourself.