Vladimir Putin's approval rating at record levels

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Quote from: Kolla on August 29, 2015, 04:58:14 PM

You mean Chirac, Sarkozy is pro-American. But Putin can have his way soon with the rise of Wilders and Le Pen.

The only pro-Russian leaders out there in the European Union at the moment are Viktor Orbán of Hungary and Alexis Tsipras of Greece. Wilders will never become the president of the Netherlands and his PVV will never become the no.1 party. He doesn't possess that sort of support. Le Pen on the other hand, is more popular, and her FN is on its way to become the no.1 party in France. That said, in the French presidential elections, a Le Pen victory seems very far away.

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True. Putin will not stop himself until the day Russia will be like the URSS. If it will be possible this and if the other countries will allow this kind of behavior.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on August 29, 2015, 08:19:39 AM

Quote from: n2004al on August 29, 2015, 04:15:21 AM

Putin was and is the same person and the reason of its behavior wouldn't required at the Bill Clinton or George Bush (which are both USA presidents and as such the same kind of people) but because at the beginning Putin was a puppy and had not the possibility and the power to play the "world leader". Then day after day he put on display its true character and personality constructing its "glory".

Putin never wanted to play the role of the "world leader". That distinction is reserved for the American presidents. Putin just want to retain the Russian influence on various ex-Soviet states (such as Armenia, Georgia, Ukraine, Moldova, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan.etc). He is not interested in the area outside the former USSR, as evident from his lack of interest in the events happening right now in Cuba and Venezuela.

Putin wants to uphold and restore Russia to a position of strength. It has always been the way of Russian Communism to take over the world, just the same as Islam, and many other national themes.

The United States is taking over the world by offering the people way more freedom in general than any other nation does. In other words, Americans are taking over the world for the United States.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on August 29, 2015, 10:13:58 AM

Quote from: Kolla on August 29, 2015, 08:36:30 AM

That is true. Unlike former Soviet/Russian leaders he's not interested in Europe and European territory. Yet many believe he is a threat....

Putin was interested in improving the Russo-European relations (especially with France, Italy, and Germany). He made significant progress during the 2000s. The trio of Gerhard Schröder, Nicolas Sarkozy, and Silvio Berlusconi were able to withstand the American pressure, and proceed with their initiative to improve the relations with Russia. But the situation worsened, when the three were replaced by anti-Russian head of states.

You mean Chirac, Sarkozy is pro-American. But Putin can have his way soon with the rise of Wilders and Le Pen.

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Quote from: Kolla on August 29, 2015, 08:36:30 AM

That is true. Unlike former Soviet/Russian leaders he's not interested in Europe and European territory. Yet many believe he is a threat....

Putin was interested in improving the Russo-European relations (especially with France, Italy, and Germany). He made significant progress during the 2000s. The trio of Gerhard Schröder, Nicolas Sarkozy, and Silvio Berlusconi were able to withstand the American pressure, and proceed with their initiative to improve the relations with Russia. But the situation worsened, when the three were replaced by anti-Russian head of states.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on August 29, 2015, 08:19:39 AM

Quote from: n2004al on August 29, 2015, 04:15:21 AM

Putin was and is the same person and the reason of its behavior wouldn't required at the Bill Clinton or George Bush (which are both USA presidents and as such the same kind of people) but because at the beginning Putin was a puppy and had not the possibility and the power to play the "world leader". Then day after day he put on display its true character and personality constructing its "glory".

Putin never wanted to play the role of the "world leader". That distinction is reserved for the American presidents. Putin just want to retain the Russian influence on various ex-Soviet states (such as Armenia, Georgia, Ukraine, Moldova, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan.etc). He is not interested in the area outside the former USSR, as evident from his lack of interest in the events happening right now in Cuba and Venezuela.

That is true. Unlike former Soviet/Russian leaders he's not interested in Europe and European territory. Yet many believe he is a threat....

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Quote from: n2004al on August 29, 2015, 04:15:21 AM

Putin was and is the same person and the reason of its behavior wouldn't required at the Bill Clinton or George Bush (which are both USA presidents and as such the same kind of people) but because at the beginning Putin was a puppy and had not the possibility and the power to play the "world leader". Then day after day he put on display its true character and personality constructing its "glory".

Putin never wanted to play the role of the "world leader". That distinction is reserved for the American presidents. Putin just want to retain the Russian influence on various ex-Soviet states (such as Armenia, Georgia, Ukraine, Moldova, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan.etc). He is not interested in the area outside the former USSR, as evident from his lack of interest in the events happening right now in Cuba and Venezuela.

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Quote from: mentat47 on July 23, 2015, 03:20:39 PM

I'm speaking as an outsider, but I think Putin is the worst thing that ever happened to Russia. He is trying to bring back the old Russia by trying to bring former Soviet republics back into Russia's sphere. Ukraine is a classic example of this. They're justification for the invasion of Crimea (and it was an invasion) is that they need to look after their Russian interests. Crimea is just one microscopic part of Russia. So, I hardly think that Crimea would bear any kind of significance to the vitality of the country.

The problem is that Putin is still one of the sane ones. Breznev was a drunkard, Tsjernenko and Andropov were too old and a bit potty, Gorbatchev was a die hard Leninist who luckily saw he lost the game. Yeltsin was rarely sober. So be happy with Putin. The next one might be completly insane.....

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on August 29, 2015, 04:00:18 AM

Quote from: n2004al on August 29, 2015, 03:54:54 AM

Putin was nominated its successor after his "loyalty" to Bill Clinton. This doesn't make sense. Nominate as heir the most big enemy of United States of America when he is supposed to be the loyal vassal of Bill Clinton?

Putin was nominated as the successor in 1999, as back then he was considered to be the most loyal person to Boris Yeltsin. Putin made sure that Yeltsin was never prosecuted for the plundering of the Russian national wealth. At that point of time, Putin and Clinton were good friends, and Putin maintained the good relations with the United States until George Bush became the POTUS in 2000.

Putin was and is the same person and the reason of its behavior wouldn't required at the Bill Clinton or George Bush (which are both USA presidents and as such the same kind of people) but because at the beginning Putin was a puppy and had not the possibility and the power to play the "world leader". Then day after day he put on display its true character and personality constructing its "glory".

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Quote from: n2004al on August 29, 2015, 03:54:54 AM

Putin was nominated its successor after his "loyalty" to Bill Clinton. This doesn't make sense. Nominate as heir the most big enemy of United States of America when he is supposed to be the loyal vassal of Bill Clinton?

Putin was nominated as the successor in 1999, as back then he was considered to be the most loyal person to Boris Yeltsin. Putin made sure that Yeltsin was never prosecuted for the plundering of the Russian national wealth. At that point of time, Putin and Clinton were good friends, and Putin maintained the good relations with the United States until George Bush became the POTUS in 2000.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on August 29, 2015, 03:45:34 AM

Quote from: n2004al on August 29, 2015, 02:42:32 AM

Boris Yeltsin was not a puppet of USA. He destroyed Mikhail Gorbachev which was openly an open mind people and a lover of free world. As such lover of European Union and United States of America. It was not possible that Boris Yeltsin made this if he was a puppet of USA. Then, and the most important, this puppet, has "nominated" (this is the right word: nominated) as its successor precisely that Putin which the most wild enemy of United States.

During the first half of his term (1991 - 1996), Yeltsin was not very dependent on the Americans. Still, he allowed the Western corporations and the American backed oligarchs to loot the national wealth of Russia. Things changed in 1996. Yeltsin had to rig the presidential elections that year (with support from the CIA), to beat the anti-American leader Gennady Zyuganov. The Americans made sure that the Western media kept silent about the election fraud, but in return Yeltsin got relegated to the level of a loyal vassal of Bill Clinton.

Putin was nominated its successor after his "loyalty" to Bill Clinton. This doesn't make sense. Nominate as heir the most big enemy of United States of America when he is supposed to be the loyal vassal of Bill Clinton?

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Quote from: n2004al on August 29, 2015, 02:42:32 AM

Boris Yeltsin was not a puppet of USA. He destroyed Mikhail Gorbachev which was openly an open mind people and a lover of free world. As such lover of European Union and United States of America. It was not possible that Boris Yeltsin made this if he was a puppet of USA. Then, and the most important, this puppet, has "nominated" (this is the right word: nominated) as its successor precisely that Putin which the most wild enemy of United States.

During the first half of his term (1991 - 1996), Yeltsin was not very dependent on the Americans. Still, he allowed the Western corporations and the American backed oligarchs to loot the national wealth of Russia. Things changed in 1996. Yeltsin had to rig the presidential elections that year (with support from the CIA), to beat the anti-American leader Gennady Zyuganov. The Americans made sure that the Western media kept silent about the election fraud, but in return Yeltsin got relegated to the level of a loyal vassal of Bill Clinton.

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Boris Yeltsin was not a puppet of USA. He destroyed Mikhail Gorbachev which was openly an open mind people and a lover of free world. As such lover of European Union and United States of America. It was not possible that Boris Yeltsin made this if he was a puppet of USA. Then, and the most important, this puppet, has "nominated" (this is the right word: nominated) as its successor precisely that Putin which the most wild enemy of United States.

The only true thing that can be told about Boris Yeltsin is that he was an alcoholised.

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Quote from: chopstick on August 27, 2015, 05:52:27 PM

Putin is by far one of the greatest leaders of our time. Dealing with the West's constant provocations, not to mention the CIA's proxy war launched in Ukraine, was not an easy task for anyone... But Putin handled it well.

Not to mention he prevented the USA from Bombing Assad in support of ISIS in Syria.

As an American, I can't help but applaud him for standing up to America's blatantly evil aggressive policies and constant attempts to throw the world into a new world order..

Putin is ex-KGB. He has lived through the Soviet times, and then became the president of Russia after the American puppet Boris Yeltsin almost destroyed that country (Some 15 million extra deaths occurred during Yeltsin's term). He has seen Russians suffering under the US-puppet rule during 1992-99. He doesn't want the same to happen to any other country.

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Putin is by far one of the greatest leaders of our time. Dealing with the West's constant provocations, not to mention the CIA's proxy war launched in Ukraine, was not an easy task for anyone... But Putin handled it well.

Not to mention he prevented the USA from Bombing Assad in support of ISIS in Syria.

As an American, I can't help but applaud him for standing up to America's blatantly evil aggressive policies and constant attempts to throw the world into a new world order..

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Quote from: mookid on August 26, 2015, 12:28:00 PM

Quote from: pureelite on August 26, 2015, 05:54:10 AM

Vladimir Putin is a great man,he leads russia like no other man would lead their country,the guy is simply the best and insperation to all of the people around him.

The last time charismatic leaders went unchecked, and allowed to do whatever they liked, World War II started...

Think about who would benefit if another Great War broke out... it certainly wouldn't be Russia.

But the US Dollar, the US economy and the IMF certainly would..

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Quote from: wicks on August 26, 2015, 01:25:01 PM

How is this guy still a President?

Don't they have term limits and what not?

How do you want ? Any opposition is break / killed / or put in jail LoL ... for sure he will put back his puppet aka "Medvedev" like he do already the last time.

Anyway i think it is not really important how is president in Russia, we could get worse .... we have what we deserve ... they have arrogant , liar and not trustable president ... like the life in russia .... lie / corruption ... rest of people who living under poverty is not important ... as all russian media claims ... russian people live to live like poor people and they are trainned to eat potatoes....

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How is this guy still a President?

Don't they have term limits and what not?

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Quote from: apollofire on August 26, 2015, 06:26:46 AM

There is something about him that he always enjoy his people trust. I think he should sit with his Western counterparts and resolve all the issues peacefully. Lets hope for the best!!

He received the people's trust after serving them as the President for almost two decades. When he became the president for the first time in 2000, he was almost unknown outside the political circles. But the people slowly started trusting him, as he reversed the disastrous policies of Yeltsin, and kicked the pro-American oligarchs out of Russia.

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Quote from: pureelite on August 26, 2015, 05:54:10 AM

Vladimir Putin is a great man,he leads russia like no other man would lead their country,the guy is simply the best and insperation to all of the people around him.

The last time charismatic leaders went unchecked, and allowed to do whatever they liked, World War II started...

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