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May I suggest you to put both idiots on ignore?
I mean, what is purpose of fighting against hypocrite who speak one thing and then speak completely different thing and then their action show third thing? Or fighting against someone who ran ponzi on top of another ponzi and have long history of abusing trust system against users who shared their opinion and say they ran/run ponzi or said anything against him? Of course, many trust rating have been removed, but some of us do remember...and now is lecturing others what is trust abuse...
Most people won't even bother to spend a single minute to research things deeper, lets use "drama strategy", lets create more drama so whoever reads anything will see it as "it is user A VS user B drama" it is "witch hunt" it is "beef between 2 users".
Of course, when you present something, some users will spam as much as they can to deflect and move things into different direction and after some time they will ask you to post proofs, after you do that they will continue with deflection and more deflection and after certain time they will ask you again to post proofs, which you already posted and it will all become very boring and at some point you will stop posting proofs and people who are not aware of anything and/or are too lazy to do research will see it as you attacking someone without proofs. Of course, anything you post they will call "peanuts" or "is this all you have" and when you post more things they will call it "more peanuts" and if you post whole "bag of peanuts" they will still call it "peanuts".
Just put them on ignore, people who want to read have everything presented around the forum and in trust pages, who doesn't want to read and use logic, well, who gives a fuck anyway. I have read some quotations and merited one post in this topic and I have no clue why LoyceV quoted me og's post, here is unedited post
http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5404/54049724.html it shows obvious manipulation attempt and someone who doesn't want to stand behind his words, it is just similar way the other idiot tried to do with his topic about trust system. Let idiots play, smartest thing you can do for yourself is to put them on ignore.