Topic: Vod - Trust Abuse - Lies - Intimidation - page 2. (Read 1263 times)

Define "relatively private".
The way you're wording this makes it sound like Vod mentioning there being 500 BTC involved was irrelevant to the magnitude of malicious intent being expressed.

Let's keep it simple, do you believe it's reasonable to think there is someone that has OG's information, or a new piece of OG's information that they didn't have prior to the DOX release?
Let's assume you're going to be honest and say "yes, of course someone downloaded his information that was too clueless to otherwise find it."
Do you think anybody that saved his information from that post has good intentions?

The biggest claim against me is "exaggeration", so let's boil it down to the most reductionist level we can. How should this event be viewed?


Your argument is that Vod has done good, therefore Vod can do evil.
I've seen this argument used to defend Lauda in the past; I don't buy it.

It is not about loyalty, simply about numbers. Please don't mix everything up as the effect of your actions was to directly discredit Vod.

I am saying that your actions put more people at risk of getting scammed, than save people from being doxxed.
There is an incoherence with you reply, as you defend a single man to the detriment of the rest of naive newbies and users.
Maybe you failed to see the implications of your actions ? Which is also understandable.

Anyways, when a next moon comes, how many people will be safer after they read Vod's stickies ? How many more people will Vod dox ?
How will people feel after reading a sticky with a red box saying that the community believe the OP is a scammer ?

Switch the roles, I think you'd still be wrong. (Assuming the roles, and all the past actions are switched as well).

Vod didn't indicate anything that was not already indicated, thus including that is only relevant if you want to exagarrate what happened. Now had Og's information been relatively private, and Vod had done this that would have been a different story.

This would make it really spiral out of control, and I wonder how master thermos would react.

Vod did not release anything. The DOX was everywhere.

It's a protest to the new guideline, definitely worth writing.

What actions? Because I dare to point out you are a dangerous mentally ill Canukistani cunt with a pattern of this kind of malicious behavior, I am jealous of your spot on the default trust. LoL. K. [plays clown music]

The claim then, is that Vod never indicated that there was 500 BTC connected to the address or it's resident?
I will happily edit my feedback, retract my statement, apologize and go on a public tour if I am incorrect.
I do not want to be a liar, but you're not being very clear.



My priority is that everyone is held to the same standard. You do something wrong, you face consequence. There is no disagreement that what was done was wrong; what are the appropriate consequences? Everybody seems to agree consequences are appropriate, but whenever any are enforced there is more backlash against the consequences than there ever was against Vod or the DOXing.

Worded the way you have asked the question, BitcoinTalk > OGNasty, every single time. I have no loyalty to that man, I don't know him, I just see something that we all agree is wrong, DOXING, and it warrants negative trust - in my opinion, at least temporarily.

So, to keep it concise you are incorrect in how you are viewing my role in all of this. This is, however, why I avoid Reputation like it is the plague, because it is the plague of our community.

Switch the roles, if OG released Vod's DOX, OG would have a negative feedback from me.
What's funny about that though, I'd probably still be on DT1.

I'm not here to play favorites, but some people are experiencing cognitive dissonance to a degree that can only be found in people that have suffered severe lack of socializing.


I can't believe you think this sentence was worth writing.

I really am sorry that I never bothered to look at Vod's behavior and leave him an appropriate rating before.  There are so many users here, and I'm constantly attacked by random accounts, so I have my limitations.  It's now obvious Vod has a long history of abusing his privileges to damage other people's forum experience.  Hopefully my willingness to be the current subject of his pathetic lies makes up for it in some way.  Luckily, it appears his recent behavior will seal his fate here.



Exactly.  Honest members should just leave Vod a negative trust rating as was stated is appropriate by theymos and we should all move on.  Let theymos sort out those who have been abusing the system to collectively try and gain control of it.

I am sorry for any assumption, but are you saying that it is better to make known the fact that Vod can doxx an individual after a span of several years of vendetta ;
and at the same time to put discredit on the trust feedbacks he left to all of the other scammers and to make guests question all the threads he started and that ended up as stickies ?
OgNasty > Bitcointalk ? Or is it Bitcointalk > OgNasty ? What are the priorities, in your eyes ?

Please tell me if I get it right, or wrong, because I fail to see it otherwise.

I still believe that disagreements or fights of this type are not necessary, but what is done is done.
I don't condemn or approve of what was done so far ; all I see are the ripple effects.

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Would have tagged you right after if it weren't for the new thermos guideline. All I see is a teen desperate to become relevant; out of this stark desperation many mistakes were made in a very short time.

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After I've followed moronbozo's post, it seems that Vod revealed zero new information. Everything from the coins to the exact address is a few clicks away and likely already archived.

Third time is the charm, I suppose, are we going to continue calling me a liar without telling me what I'm lying about?
I'm continually being called a liar, yet as I stand here ready to apologize, correct and change-course all that I'm hearing is ad-hominem attacks, diversions, projections and platitudes.

You're normally so witty, but this is just like when the toddler wants the square to fit in the circle-hole. 

You're manipulating the masses with lies and I have all the time in the world. Sad that Chipmixer is sponsoring that garbage. Read moronbozo's post. I'm waiting for thermos to appear.

You claim you aren't jealous, but your actions....

I thought I wasn't worth listening to? Yet here you are, reading, listening, responding, and somehow avoiding anything relevant to Vod abusing the trust system.


This is kind of what I meant by intimidation. God forbid I don't fall in line after you make a mistake and want to sweep it under the rug.
Let's hope you learn from your blatant abuse of power, it damages your reputation more than your lies could ever hurt mine.

Just so we're clear, nobody here is defending you leaving me negative trusts - the best anybody seems to be able to do for you is bury your actions in bullshit.

More like I have been calling out this bullshit for years while you sell your projections of jealousy in a pathetic attempt to distract from your own serial abusive behavior.

Whatever he does, let's hope he learned from his last experience with OG, his cherry picking Theymos' words, and the increased problems it caused.  :/

Maybe only a very small number of users, which usually suck up to each other, are strongly  critizing these actions? Maybe most of the forum no longer likes these users because of said nepotism, hypocrisy, etc.? Maybe. Scratch that, it's not the same set of members.

I created this thread in response to the negative feedback that Vod has left me. It is clearly more exaggerated, and childish than anything you are claiming I have done. PMs are blocked, and the other thread isn't an appropriate place for this discussion. Unless you believe that the feedback they left me was completely warranted, no questions asked, this thread should very much be up.

To be clear, Vod DOXs another member and every single user that has given them negative trust that was once on DT is no longer on DT.
A strange consequence of Vod doing something immoral and malicious, is that everyone criticizing these actions is facing more consequences than Vod.


What would be appropriate consequences for this?


So bitter.

It's almost like you are jealous you are no longer part of it?  

I hope DT fights will settled down before admin enforced to do the things like you mentioned.

DT ratings are here for saving us from scams not to take revenge.

Its almost like... there is a..."Secret Sad BitcoinTalk Trust Farming Circle Jerk Mob" protecting certain members who act in lockstep... It would be a shame if some one were to introduce some individualism to your collective.

The new exclusions are teeGUMES and idiot gator. The others should have existed before (OgNasty is on and off unusually often..).