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July 10, 2016, 10:09:32 AM
Cameron is saying that he will keep the freedom of movement for European citizens, even after the Brexit. Then what is the use in UK seceding from the EU? The Romanians and Poles will continue to pour in to the UK, and they will suck the coffers dry.

YOU CANNOT GET BENEFITS FROM THE UK WITHOUT BEING A CITIZEN!!!
I think there should be two things that we try to get from the "brexit" vote:
Access to the "single market" - to continue trading as normal
Freedom of movement - to compromise with the EU to suggest tht we accept them in our country.

I believe that everything else should be no longer standing as these two things are the main things that us and the EU need and benefit from!

LOL!  Stop trying to educate them. So many people still believe that you can get benefits from state without having the citizenship...
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July 10, 2016, 10:03:05 AM
In the meantime the sheeple who suffer from helsinki syndrome have taken to the streets.


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July 10, 2016, 10:01:50 AM
On behalf of the sheeple who do not agree with the democratic process if it does not fall in line with their requirements academia and legal experts who are in disagreement with the chattel are not having it.Their shills are on overtime in order to reverse this referendum by all manner of trickery and doublespeak.
"Dr. Catterall believes that the Tory party should call a referendum in the Autumn once a new leader is elected "so as to create a negotiating position."

But he adds: "I think that's still fraught with difficulties because you'd have to be very, very clear about what the question is and even clearer about what the answer is. And you'd have to be damn sure you're going to get the answer you want because the risk is you're going to get another cock up like this one."

Dr. Catterall says there is a danger that Britain could be trapped in "never-endums" — a series of referendums as the public reject deal after deal that London negotiates with Brussels.

    You'd have to be damn sure you're going to get the answer you want because the risk is you're going to get another cock up like this one"
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July 06, 2016, 10:55:07 AM
What the hell. I am very surprised with the results. I never thought Brits will do something crazy like that. Incredible. Incredible and smart.

EU is becoming a shithole with everyday. Brits will suffer some economic losses but in the end it will be better.
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June 30, 2016, 03:09:24 PM
How come when the markets went down brexit got the blame from remain voters, yet now it's on a year high we don't hear nothing from them?

http://uk.reuters.com/article/us-britain-stocks-idUSKCN0ZG2GC?il=0

I doubt you would like to hear the reasons for it:

http://www.wsj.com/articles/boes-mark-carney-hints-at-summer-rate-cut-1467299787

Prepare your tax money gentlemans.
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June 30, 2016, 02:14:46 PM
How come when the markets went down brexit got the blame from remain voters, yet now it's on a year high we don't hear nothing from them?

http://uk.reuters.com/article/us-britain-stocks-idUSKCN0ZG2GC?il=0
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June 30, 2016, 02:39:58 AM
That about sums it up Buffer - Blighty ( the magazine is going back a bit Smiley ). Even the sobriquet for the country seems to have fallen into disuse.

Stuff the EU - Blighty rules. Smiley
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June 30, 2016, 01:54:00 AM
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https://bit.ly/387FXHi lightning theory
June 29, 2016, 06:23:41 PM
We need to leave the single market, this is not how and what the people voted for, we have no trust in Brussels at all, if the government continues on this path, then the brexit would be for nothing, what is wrong with free and open trade?

Cameron is one fucked up dude, he has no intentions of following our reasons for getting out., and neither will the next PM.

I think Borris Johnson is our best hope for negotiations out of the EU as I think that he will ge tht ebest for the country.
David Cameron called this vote to happen but cannot cope with the result (or the fact that he lost)!
I feel also that we need to remain in the single market as it is the only way that the UK can prosper.
However, as long as the big businessess don't commit treason by leaving the UK to DIE then we will survive out of the EU!

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https://bit.ly/387FXHi lightning theory
June 29, 2016, 06:19:53 PM
Cameron is saying that he will keep the freedom of movement for European citizens, even after the Brexit. Then what is the use in UK seceding from the EU? The Romanians and Poles will continue to pour in to the UK, and they will suck the coffers dry.

YOU CANNOT GET BENEFITS FROM THE UK WITHOUT BEING A CITIZEN!!!
I think there should be two things that we try to get from the "brexit" vote:
Access to the "single market" - to continue trading as normal
Freedom of movement - to compromise with the EU to suggest tht we accept them in our country.

I believe that everything else should be no longer standing as these two things are the main things that us and the EU need and benefit from!
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June 29, 2016, 02:22:56 PM
We need to leave the single market, this is not how and what the people voted for, we have no trust in Brussels at all, if the government continues on this path, then the brexit would be for nothing, what is wrong with free and open trade?

Cameron is one fucked up dude, he has no intentions of following our reasons for getting out., and neither will the next PM.
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June 29, 2016, 02:09:18 PM
Cameron is saying that he will keep the freedom of movement for European citizens, even after the Brexit. Then what is the use in UK seceding from the EU? The Romanians and Poles will continue to pour in to the UK, and they will suck the coffers dry.

We should refuse this. It's incredible that UK tries to take whatever it wants from EU and refuse the global regulations. We shouldn't allow something like this, it's really kneeling down to keep UK in something EU-like ><

They should have only two choice, accept the duties and advantages of EU or refuse them. That's all folks :/
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June 29, 2016, 02:03:57 PM
Cameron is saying that he will keep the freedom of movement for European citizens, even after the Brexit. Then what is the use in UK seceding from the EU? The Romanians and Poles will continue to pour in to the UK, and they will suck the coffers dry.

Not surprised in the slightest and was fairly certain throughout the debate that would be the case.  It was always a strong likelihood that we would have to accept freedom of movement, you just never heard anyone from the leave campaign admit it, heh.  Also, I'm quite pleased with this as economic migrants don't, in fact, "suck the coffers dry".  They contribute more than they take out and the UK economy is going to need all the help it can get.  If, as a bonus, it also disenfranchises those whose fixation is migration and they refrain from voting in future as a result, then I'm fine with that too.   Grin

UK is a very tolerant country in regards to immigration, and we should be rightly proud of that. A good number are very hard working with good work ethics.
But annual net migration of 336,000 in this tiny country is simply unsustainable. Roads gridlocked, schools oversubscribed, massive housing shortage, hospitals at breaking point.... etc, people are right to be concerned.

At some point something is going to give. I don't what it will be, but it won't be pretty.

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June 29, 2016, 12:33:35 PM
Cameron is saying that he will keep the freedom of movement for European citizens, even after the Brexit. Then what is the use in UK seceding from the EU? The Romanians and Poles will continue to pour in to the UK, and they will suck the coffers dry.

Not surprised in the slightest and was fairly certain throughout the debate that would be the case.  It was always a strong likelihood that we would have to accept freedom of movement, you just never heard anyone from the leave campaign admit it, heh.  Also, I'm quite pleased with this as economic migrants don't, in fact, "suck the coffers dry".  They contribute more than they take out and the UK economy is going to need all the help it can get.  If, as a bonus, it also disenfranchises those whose fixation is migration and they refrain from voting in future as a result, then I'm fine with that too.   Grin
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June 29, 2016, 12:42:09 AM
Cameron is saying that he will keep the freedom of movement for European citizens, even after the Brexit. Then what is the use in UK seceding from the EU? The Romanians and Poles will continue to pour in to the UK, and they will suck the coffers dry.

Exiting the EU will not stop immigration, because we still need access to the single market.
My fear is many people voted exit under the illusion it will.
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June 28, 2016, 11:54:28 PM
Cameron is saying that he will keep the freedom of movement for European citizens, even after the Brexit. Then what is the use in UK seceding from the EU? The Romanians and Poles will continue to pour in to the UK, and they will suck the coffers dry.
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June 28, 2016, 09:08:00 AM
I especially like Nigel Farage, who is pretty libertarian

Wow, how did I miss this golden nugget earlier in the thread?

I get that you're watching from afar, but you might need a new telescope or something, as either yours is clearly broken, or you have a completely different definition of "libertarian" to the rest of the known universe.  The UK, much like the US, has no major libertarian (economic right) parties, only authoritarian ones.  It has a few libertarian-leaning politicians, but Farage sure as hell isn't one of them, despite how he tries to sound in his interviews.  He's a former member of the Conservatives and has only become more authoritarian since his departure.  His party, UKIP, are just a more hardline incarnation of the tories, funded by former tory donors.  They're practically knocking on the doors of borderline fascism.  Call me crazy, but I thought that was the opposite of championing the rights of the individual, like someone who is "pretty libertarian" would?

I suppose next you're going to tell me Trump is a libertarian too?



Actually I'd say Douglas Carswell, the only UKIP MP, is a libertarian. Farage of course is not, he's a populist. I wonder what will happen to farage now. He is no longer needed as a member of the european parliament, and Britain refused to elect him to the House of Commons last year. So he's at a loose end. After dinner speaking beckons, methinks.
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June 28, 2016, 09:01:30 AM
I especially like Nigel Farage, who is pretty libertarian

Wow, how did I miss this golden nugget earlier in the thread?

I get that you're watching from afar, but you might need a new telescope or something, as either yours is clearly broken, or you have a completely different definition of "libertarian" to the rest of the known universe.  The UK, much like the US, has no major libertarian (economic right) parties, only authoritarian ones.  It has a few libertarian-leaning politicians, but Farage sure as hell isn't one of them, despite how he tries to sound in his interviews.  He's a former member of the Conservatives and has only become more authoritarian since his departure.  His party, UKIP, are just a more hardline incarnation of the tories, funded by former tory donors.  They're practically knocking on the doors of borderline fascism.  Call me crazy, but I thought that was the opposite of championing the rights of the individual, like someone who is "pretty libertarian" would?

I suppose next you're going to tell me Trump is a libertarian too?

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June 28, 2016, 04:23:49 AM
Popcorn1: to think that the real problem is population and or immigration is not only stupid, it's also the proof of your complete blindness towards the real problem of the West.
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June 28, 2016, 12:42:10 AM
Interesting videos popcorn... I didn't know that situation was like that in the uk. Where are the ninjas girls? In Bahrain or Yemen they were in the street... Maybe outside of the peninsula they still have much to learn...

Anyway thank you for posting! Cosmopolitans people supported by money printing to pay their security and luxury on the head and shoulders of the rest of the population... The 2 new elements are the fact that it's possible to watch how fractal corruption is, and as expected emerged on a cosmopolitan scale and those observations are possible for 4-6 years old with the Internet...

Now remarks I like about soldiers restoration is that the metropolitan oligarchs can often assassinate the fist among the Justs but his officers and generals... Once they saw they knew. One of the biggest moment in western military history is the moment the Roman legions learned about the assassination of the one who wanted to fight corruption... Good luck oligarchs... Bcz it's one thing for a group of senators wanting to preserve the renting schemes to sword a man who came to discuss and reform, another against professionals in arms knowing.
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