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legendary
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June 27, 2016, 12:19:51 AM
the European Union is founded on the ideas of Count Richard von Coudenhove-Kalergi.  He believed in the homogenisation of the european people so that they could be commodified by the globalists and would be much easier to control seeing themselves as citizens of the world or Europe with no national identity.  The EU gives out the Kalergi award every 2 years to Globalists who have excelled in promoting his sick ideology. Recent winners include Angela Merkel , Tony Blair and Peter Sutherland.

"  The man of the future will be of mixed race. The races and classes of today will gradually disappear due to the elimination of space, time, and prejudice. The Eurasian-negroid race of the future, similar in appearance to the Ancient Egyptians, will replace the diversity of peoples and the diversity of individuals. ”
legendary
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June 26, 2016, 11:38:47 PM
Worst Exchange Rate:THE POUND 1.3836 on 29/02/2016
Now on this day did you hear on the news we are all going to die and all loose our life savings?

go and check the rate..THE NEWS IS FULL OF SHIT Grin Grin Grin
TRYING TO CONTROL IT'S SHEEPLE
And no to Scotland in a brexit block NO CHANCE ..Not democracy if it gets blocked..So then all our young adults in the armed forces are there for NOTHING..FIGHTING FOR WHAT ?..
Because my son daughter not fighting to line A PERSON OR A COMPANIES POCKET SO THEY CAN HAVE A NICE LIFE WHILE WE SUFFER...NO CHANCE Angry Angry

And no i am not poor no more.. not rich but do ok ..But believe me i have been poor..
Salt soup try having that because your cupboards empty..Now why not ask a family member for some food..Well you do but after asking 3 times you feel shit asking anymore times..
And also they get sick of you asking..
sat with a candle because no electric no money..Now don't get me wrong only happened couple of times but it was shit..so imagine someone who worse off than i was at the time at least i had a home..

They should of looked after the natives and not and all the rich..Remember always be more poor than rich..
So you need to make the poor not so poor?
A woman from london buying a 3 pound fish..Now because some tosser smoked the kipper while playing the piano she paid him 2 thousand pounds...stupid shit..
Now if someone doing this there got to be some people suffering because the money that gets put out is going into a small amount of hands and not the many..

Say government put 1 billion into a city and 5 people end up with half of it there will be problems with the rest of the people..I.E WHEN YOU COME TO VOTE..
sr. member
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June 26, 2016, 09:44:35 PM
Scotland raised £53.1bn in 2012/13 and spent £65.2bn, leaving the country £12.1bn short.

I don't understand... How could they let the situation to that bad? They are all looting on it and thinking to move it on an offshore in Delaware or what? Where did the Scottish people learned math? If you spend more than your revenues you have to take debts, debts have to be financed. Because I am sure they weren't cash positive in 2011/12... I understand that cronies in the state and those in symbiotic relation with them in the private sector enjoy transferring as much wealth from the state coffee and the public backing it... But no one is no nest enough to tell them that it will end bad for them? What is happening to the west... To impose Keynes plan of looting they have to dumb down the population...
legendary
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June 26, 2016, 09:33:05 PM
Scotland please GO..No rather have us together.. But i would love you to go to see if you can make it in the EU Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
And also how will you block a brexit NO CHANCE..If this is the case then I want a vote to block the SNP..Only fair Grin Grin..You got out voted on the BREXIT..Just like we got out voted by the SNP running scotland...TUFF TITTY  Grin Grin..BUT PLEASE GO.. 2  . odd million people telling 17 million people what to do

FUCK OFF YOU CHEEKY BASTARDS..
The latest comprehensive snapshot concluded that Scotland was running a larger deficit as a percentage of economic output than the UK average.

Scotland raised £53.1bn in 2012/13 and spent £65.2bn, leaving the country £12.1bn short.

Now what happens if a new Energy system is used lets say 10 years from now how will Scotland survive..
According to the Treasury, public spending in Scotland is higher than anywhere else in the UK apart from Northern Ireland.

So Scotland who as the worst end of the stick..England..DON'T COUNT LONDON THERE FROM ANOTHER PLANET Grin Grin they are from the planet..I DONT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT NO ONE ELSE AS LONG AS AM OK..

You seem to think it's the EU making your lives better BULLSHIT Grin
SO PLEASE WIN YOUR VOTE TO BECOME A FREE SCOTLAND FULL OF POOR PEOPLE..

you will all be back on the buck fast soon Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy ras c nesbits Cheesy Cheesy
sr. member
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June 26, 2016, 08:50:12 PM
The people who used every tricks in the book to make the bremain are still there... And apparently they don't like the idea referendum when it doesn't get in their ways...
legendary
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June 26, 2016, 07:51:32 PM
SO WHEN YOU IMMIGRANTS COME OVER AND SAY I PAY MY TAXES NO YOU FUCKING DON'T IF YOU PICK SPUDS OR WORK FOR SHIT PAY..YOUR A BURDEN ON OUR SYSTEM..

Why i get pissed at these IMMIGRANTS..Because if we went to war would they think it's there country or would they pack there bags and say it's not my country i am off?..

What pisses me off is that many of the people in this thread self-identify as Libertarian.  You supposedly hate big government and champion the rights of the individual above all else.  I know you're reading this thinking "yeah, that's totally me".  Except when it comes to the rights of individuals to choose where they come to live and work.  Then, all of a sudden, you're all clamouring as fast as you can for some big government to build a wall, dig a moat and pull up the drawbridge for you.  It's such a disgusting double standard.  You're not libertarians at all.  You're duplicitous, greedy hypocrites and nothing more.  The rights of the individual don't just extend you and your kind, bigots.  They apply to everyone.
No your so wrong..I have well more rights in my country..Well i should have more rights but not the case..

Right let me tell you WHY..

My Gran dad died during ww2.. 2 my great uncles died japs in ww2..Afgan war 6 or 8 year ago cousin shot in the head dead..
Now when you invite poor immigrants in they under cut your wages..Now if you say they don't your full of shit..
I work as a bricklayer i worked on a site and we lay 1 sq meter of block for 10 pounds..A gang of poles come on the site and said they lay them for 7.50 pounds 1 sq meter..
So under cutting our rate..
Now when we get our wages we spend it on home and kids in our land..They send most of it back home spending it in there land lowering our economy because more money should be flowing around the area for shops and so on..
Now why i have more rights is because we the poor send our children to war not these rich bastards
It's the poor peoples sons and daughters who end up on the FRONT LINE..
Now when Immigrant comes over I.E A FUCKING MUSLIM ..They get a free house and all the benefits..Then have the cheek to want to turn our land into Islam..And also want to kill our soldiers
And rape our daughters and kill all those who don't believe in there religion..
Now you say your getting paranoid ?..
say you live in an area and it's got 50 British people living in the area and lets say 4 muslims move in that area well those 4 Muslims will have kids and those kids will end up with western values..
Now if you moved 30 Muslims in an area and 20 British are left in that area..What will happen is the 30 muslims change that area into A muslim area Mosque built laws brought up that have nothing to do with British law more SHARIA LAW..They change our country..Now imagine we have a war where will these muslims be telling us to fight it our selves and chanting for us to die?

Now Scotland have 5 million people and nearly as big as England Ireland don't Know how many people but i get to my point now..And London what a joke..

Right when Scotland look out of there windows and the same goes for Ireland they see hills and country side and when they go for a walk they just about see another person compared to England.
SO WHEN ENGLAND TALKS ABOUT IMMIGRATION SCOTLAND AND IRELAND WONT KNOW WHAT IMMIGRATION IS COMPARED TO HOW MANY PEOPLE LIVE IN ENGLAND ALONE..
Now London these crafty bastards have put the rents up that much there only getting the best immigrants all the rest of England get all the riffraff because a poor muslim will end up in the midlands or the northwest and now there filling up wales all the poor towns..While london gets all the million pound Muslims we get the shit ones..

Now yes we have riffraff but there our riffraff.. But adding more riffraff to our lands is not good
And if from north africa there riffraff is 10 times worse than our riffraff..there used to killing..

Now to some poor guy who as no money is country is all he as left..Because it's the poor who care about there country they end up as soldiers they sign up to join the army..
Not some rich toff with loads of money why would he want to die or send his kids to die..

When you join your told the queen is your boss and you fight for your country..
So when London shit on the poor by giving immigrants a better life than our people enough was enough..
Now you see why scotland and ireland want out because they don't feel immigration like England..
Ireland have horse in there front gardens on a council estate we have 10 muslims in one house
and the garage has 2 more in it..

SO DON'T YOU DARE SAY SOMEONE FROM ANOTHER COUNTRY HAS THE SAME RIGHTS AS ME IN MY OWN COUNTRY..OUR POOR PEOPLES CHILDREN DIE FOR OUR COUNTRY..
MOST IMMIGRANTS WOULD FLEE BACK.....TOTAL FACT..

Someone from Scotland and Ireland go live in BIRMINGHAM for 2 years and you will know what we mean Grin Grin

I have well more rights than an immigrant ..BUT WE FUCKING DON'T BECAUSE OF THOSE RICH SELFISH TWATS..They don't live in these AREAS ..I DO..
Lived on the out skirts of a city more farm land than anything..But now even the face of my area as changed and not for the good..waiting 2 week to see a doctor..
1970S Britian was fucking skint..But you could call a doctor and he come to your house..Now don't even Know me doctor..So with all these riches floating around WHERE THE FUCK IS IT..
YES IN LONDON ONLY..
And Scotland and ireland would know fuck all about immigrants shitting there areas up and stealing there jobs and under cutting them..Because not many people in the lands Grin Grin

Now i have worked on the channel island jersey ..And when i worked there you needed to be there for 24 years paying into there tax system before you can become a native or marry a jersey bean
to claim housing benefits or any benefits..Got the hospital for free that's it..
Now if i never worked and had no money i had to go home back to the mainland..
Now when British people go abroad to live or work ..We don't claim benefits and we buy homes in the sun..Nothing like what the EU is offering ..More like the shit of the crop..

And it cost us 10 billion to make us feel like this..WELL THANK FUCK I AM OUT Grin Grin

Now watch this video and also see why I am glad i am out if not seen YOU MUST WATCH..
YOU WILL BE GLAD WE ARE OUT..

Lexit the Movie (The left case for Brexit ) - YouTube
Video for lexit the movie▶ 1:01:22
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0kuJhkMLWs







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https://bit.ly/387FXHi lightning theory
June 26, 2016, 05:07:03 PM
It isnt just free travel. Please take a look at the the schengen treaty.

Also Visa free travel is really hard to negotiate and most (all?) Nations who have such a treaty with UK are in the Commonwealth, a former colony of the UK.

There's also places like Hong Kong in China where people can travel with just a UK passport and many other places.
The main points are that we get free travel, access to the "european single market".
The schengen treaty, I am told, is a treaty that means the people who are British Protected People, British Subjects, British Overseas Citizens... can travel to the countries in the schengen scheme for up to 90 days!
(british subjects and british protected people being people who are born stateless and apply for that specific title from the government in order to remain in the UK, they are unable to do things like have Dual Citizensips and other things that british citizens are allowed to do - though I don't think there are too many restrictions, but they are not classed as British Citizens)!


I thought we had opted out of Schengen together with Ireland.

You are right and im wrong. Sorry my bad there.
I always though that because Ireland and UK are part of the EU and EFTA/EEA and of the discussion about the refugee-crisis. (no boarder controls etc)


I think that was revoked at the last set of policies just before the referendum if I am not mistaken (when Mr David Cameron failed to negotiate a good deal, and the EU parliament thought it was the best we were going to get fro them)!
We opted out of other stuff as well such as the bailout principle (didn't really work for us in 2009)!
legendary
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June 26, 2016, 04:21:08 PM
I thought we had opted out of Schengen together with Ireland.

You are right and im wrong. Sorry my bad there.
I always though that because Ireland and UK are part of the EU and EFTA/EEA and of the discussion about the refugee-crisis. (no boarder controls etc)
legendary
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June 26, 2016, 04:06:02 PM
I thought we had opted out of Schengen together with Ireland.
legendary
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June 26, 2016, 03:55:42 PM
It isnt just free travel. Please take a look at the the schengen treaty.

Also Visa free travel is really hard to negotiate and most (all?) Nations who have such a treaty with UK are in the Commonwealth, a former colony of the UK.
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https://bit.ly/387FXHi lightning theory
June 26, 2016, 03:12:07 PM
9 out of 10 news article tell me it is about east europeans. Polnish people and such who are in the EU.
Uk doesnt have to take in people from outside the EU plase read the dublin treaty.

The main problem is immigration from the EU and that will not change with the norway/switzerland model.


It is really funny but i only know england with a big indian/bangladesh diaspora and it is for sure not caused by the EU. (Advice: look up British Commonwealth)


We will see in the upcoming months and years, but atleast you guys can expect a hospital being built every new week in the UK from now on Wink
I come from Pakistan i go to Romania buy a EU passport for 20 quid then go to the uk..
Simples..
Also how long because of the EU courts does it take to deport someone? years and years..

Now we can sling you out straight away..soon this will happen..

And if the 2 big parties don't get into shape..Then UKIP WILL WIN THE NEXT ELECTION..
UKIP CANNOT WIN THE NEXT ELECTION!!!
I think a european passport is more expensive than £/$/euro 20! (as they are usually much more epxensive though I presume your point was that it is fairly easy to get into the UK)!
Once you are in the UK there is very little you can do, also you can be processed by regular cours (unless you appeal but then that costs you are left with are extremely high, mainly n legal fees)! You may also be held in prison for those years that your case is being processed!


I hope Ukip don't win..And your right i was saying how easy it is to enter..
i know you pay more for a passport. But you got my drift..

UKIP WILL WIN IF...LOADS OF IF'S WHY THEY WILL WIN..But hope it wont come to this..
Also how much to keep a prisoner 40k a year..

So when we lock up immigrants for 1 year .half a year.. tax payer loosing loads..

I'd guess it'd be more than £40K per year to keep a person in prison! However, the person still needs to pay legal fees!

UKIP should fold in three years time (they set out for us to brexit and they got it)! If they leave now, tey will retire successful! (they probably won't leave now though)!


I found it funny how the MEP Nigel Farage tried to support the "brexit" even though his main income comes fromthe EU and the UKs participation in it!
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https://bit.ly/387FXHi lightning theory
June 26, 2016, 03:04:19 PM
Looks like it's going to be a stormy few years, it's a shame really as things were just starting to become more stable after the previous recession. Europe does have problems with unelected bureaucrats and failing border controls. Maybe a shock like this will create changes - but the UK won't share so much in the rewards.

If you are from the UK then we should survive outside of the EU! Most goods will only gain 10-30% tarriffs which will not have too much effects (I don't think). Also, some things like fish markets and things that are made in the UK may be much cheaper. It is also in the favour of the EU to reduce tarriffs as the money will go to the European Government which will move money away from EU countries where the products were produced.

The European Union membership had its own positives and negatives for the Brits. The positives were freedom of travel across the Union, access to cheap blue collar labor from the Eastern Europe.etc. But the negatives were much more severe. A large number of factories and mines shut down, and native blue collar workers saw their job opportunities plummet.

I have to disagree with you there!
The medical departments in the UK have many job vacancies that require filling. The Eastern European doctors were of a similar skill to Western European doctors and wages remained a similar pay (until around 2010 when the conservative government cut the funding for the NHS).
Facories and mines closing are good things in some cases as it prevents pollution, landscape damage to the environment and many other potential problems not occuring!

There were other disadvvantages though! I see no reason why freedom of movement will not continue under the current UK plans and as part of the "brexit" deal. If free movement does change, considering the amount the countries like Spain make from tourism, they will probably try to set up a similar relationship to the one that Britain has with countries like Egypt and Tunisia who are not in the EU but people from teh UK are allowed to travel there with regular British passports!
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June 26, 2016, 01:18:23 PM
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On Friday, Johnson weighed in on Brexit long after Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton had exchanged blows. "We can view Britain's exit from the [European Union] as some kind of catastrophic event, or as an opportunity," Johnson said in a statement to The Washington Post. "It is perfectly appropriate for the British people to make their own decisions about their own economic futures. It is not for us, either previously or today, to lecture them about their own best interests. The EU has, for some time, been pulling Britain down a path to unsustainable entitlements and away from the opportunities the free market offers. That voters rejected that path is not surprising."

That's a quote from Gary Johnson the Libertarian party's candidate for president
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June 26, 2016, 01:02:48 PM
SO WHEN YOU IMMIGRANTS COME OVER AND SAY I PAY MY TAXES NO YOU FUCKING DON'T IF YOU PICK SPUDS OR WORK FOR SHIT PAY..YOUR A BURDEN ON OUR SYSTEM..

Why i get pissed at these IMMIGRANTS..Because if we went to war would they think it's there country or would they pack there bags and say it's not my country i am off?..

What pisses me off is that many of the people in this thread self-identify as Libertarian.  You supposedly hate big government and champion the rights of the individual above all else.  I know you're reading this thinking "yeah, that's totally me".  Except when it comes to the rights of individuals to choose where they come to live and work.  Then, all of a sudden, you're all clamouring as fast as you can for some big government to build a wall, dig a moat and pull up the drawbridge for you.  It's such a disgusting double standard.  You're not libertarians at all.  You're duplicitous, greedy hypocrites and nothing more.  The rights of the individual don't just extend you and your kind, bigots.  They apply to everyone.
legendary
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June 26, 2016, 07:36:18 AM
It's not 40% you know, 72% of youngs voted remain.

So for you, "young" means just those in the 18-24 age group? For me, it also includes those in the 25-30 age group. And the latter voted in favor of Brexit by a 4% margin (probably close to 10% in reality, as the exit polls undercounted the LEAVE vote by 4 to 6 points). A majority of those aged between 25 and 30 voted in favor of Brexit.

Lier.

If only people aged to 64 could have vote, remain would have won by a really big margin: 10-15%

https://mobile.twitter.com/POLITICOEurope/status/746255941331488768

But well, what would expect from someone who cant even read a yes/no poll correctly Roll Eyes
legendary
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June 26, 2016, 07:30:19 AM
It's not 40% you know, 72% of youngs voted remain.

So for you, "young" means just those in the 18-24 age group? For me, it also includes those in the 25-30 age group. And the latter voted in favor of Brexit by a 4% margin (probably close to 10% in reality, as the exit polls undercounted the LEAVE vote by 4 to 6 points). A majority of those aged between 25 and 30 voted in favor of Brexit.
legendary
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June 26, 2016, 05:09:31 AM
And as a good article said:
You've gambled with my generation future, I've got the right to be angry.

Voting remain was gambling with your future.
Voting leaving was gambling with your future.
Not bother voting at all was gambling with your future.



Listening to the young generation and accepting their overwhelming decision maybe? Roll Eyes
legendary
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June 26, 2016, 04:53:59 AM
And as a good article said:
You've gambled with my generation future, I've got the right to be angry.

Voting remain was gambling with your future.
Voting leaving was gambling with your future.
Not bother voting at all was gambling with your future.

legendary
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June 26, 2016, 04:49:13 AM
I don't understand your post. We "oldies" voted for Brexit because we can see the way the world is going. We are aware that there is more to life than Facebook.

No. You oldie are just too arrogant to even consider that the youngs have good reasons to keep faith in EU and don't even want to listen to those arguments...
I don't care, I'm not English. I just find it ridiculous to see this ugly gerontocracy at work.

I have a piece of advice for you. Stop whining. You lost the referendum by a big margin, and now get over with it. And please don't paint all the younger voters as pro-EU. 40% of them voted for Brexit (a simple majority of the native non-immigrant youth). I have noticed that you are hurling abuses and insults at anyone who does not agree with your views, since the referendum results came out.  Apply some burnol, and everything will be allright. And more importantly, let the Brits do whatever they want with their country.

That's for sure I'm at least whining as much as they're braging ^^
But I don't see why I wouldn't be affected. Not like the Britains decision won't affect the rest of the world.

It's not 40% you know, 72% of youngs voted remain.

And as a good article said:
You've gambled with my generation future, I've got the right to be angry.
legendary
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June 25, 2016, 11:59:05 PM
I don't understand your post. We "oldies" voted for Brexit because we can see the way the world is going. We are aware that there is more to life than Facebook.

No. You oldie are just too arrogant to even consider that the youngs have good reasons to keep faith in EU and don't even want to listen to those arguments...
I don't care, I'm not English. I just find it ridiculous to see this ugly gerontocracy at work.

I have a piece of advice for you. Stop whining. You lost the referendum by a big margin, and now get over with it. And please don't paint all the younger voters as pro-EU. 40% of them voted for Brexit (a simple majority of the native non-immigrant youth). I have noticed that you are hurling abuses and insults at anyone who does not agree with your views, since the referendum results came out.  Apply some burnol, and everything will be allright. And more importantly, let the Brits do whatever they want with their country.
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