Topic: Wagering requirements for withdraw - page 9. (Read 4805 times)

For the novice gamblers I also found they don't want to read the regulations of the casino and after some time they file a complaint because they have experienced the problem of violation of the casino rules.
The importance of reading and understanding casino policies is that we can avoid problems and be more careful in every action so as not to violate existing regulations.

But that only applies to small casinos that don't have a very good reputation.
After all, there are lots of big and trusted casinos that we can use, so it's better to avoid shady casinos that could make us suffer losses in the future.

I think the majority of the gamblers out there when they think about the very first thing they want to do when they finalize the process of creating an account at a new casino, do not consider reading a legal document regarding their responsibilities toward the casino as being at the top of their list.

Still it is important to do so, because as you mention there are casinos out there which are looking to aggressively use their TOS against their clients as a way to rob them.

if you ask me how many casinos I have already created an account in and read their TOS my answer will be short and quick: no casino. I know this is not a good thing, but it is strange that when I see someone complaining about a casino I immediately do some research and read the TOS of the casino that the person is complaining about. It is true that people must read the TOS of the casinos and must respect them, but it is also necessary to see that some new casinos are putting TOS that do not make much sense in legal terms, if someone takes a lawyer and puts the new casino that there are certain meaningless TOS the court will agree with the person who is complaining

this is because in my opinion many new casinos and even the established ones do not have a legal team and when they put the TOS they copy it from other casinos and then modify it to be able to use it as a weapon against their customers, and unfortunately this is something that has given results for some new casinos , they are deceiving and robbing customers, always using things like: against TOS and many accounts and cheats, all this and arguments for not paying, this has been the path that new casinos use, so even if people read the TOS this does not prevent casinos from using their toss against customers

But we do know that majority of people would really just simply skip out on reading up sites terms and conditions on which it would really be that a common reaction on which they would really just simply skipping out

on doing so, because they would really be that definitely be making out deposits without trying out to know on whats the real terms and conditions whether on their deposits or with their bonuses and on the time that they cant really be able to withdraw just because they havent been reach out the threshold then this is the time that they would really be tending to read up those terms on which this should have done earlier.
It is really just that normal that people would really be having this kind of approach on the time that they havent experienced problems but on the time that they would really be able to do so,
then this is where they would really be minding seriously. Come to think that these requirements are really that indeed standard because they've been regulated and following up something.

I've come across several threads concerning online casinos and their unethical terms and conditions and I think such sites shouldn't be patronised, and I urge users to make sure they read the Tos of an app or site carefully before sign up, because it would be very annoying to discover this unfair treatment after depositing a huge sum of money upon sign without given any bonus of any kind then given a biased conditions for withdrawals when you've  won.
 
 There are several sites out there so people should be careful with sites the come across do not be deceived or mislead by these bonuses, and before you sign up, take your time to read carefully the Tos and see if you're comfortable with it, but then avoid such site if you notice there's no terms and conditions before sign up.

 Op, in as much as you won't want to call out such sites here in the forum it would be nice if you advice close friends that gamble concerning such sites so as not to be victims of this unfair act, because the more victims call them out the lesser other people gets victimised and my advise to  new gamblers reading this thread, please be very careful and be sure to read the term and conditions of various gambling sites before registering so as to avoid future complains.

Reading terms and conditions should be done once players are going to create an account, it will avoid blind deposit without knowing anything about the casino.
Related to the main topic, there are still some casinos that do not even provide the wagering requirement for deposit without bonus.
In this case, if it is something crucial for players then they should find about it out through the live support or email support.

Usually, if it's not a matter of the withdrawal not being as fast as it used to be, it could be a matter of the wagering requirements they must meet before they can withdraw the money. And it is common and often happens to many gamblers who do not pay attention to the wagering requirements before they start betting. Especially if they want to get bonuses from promotions held by casinos because usually there must be wagering requirements that must be met so they don't experience any problems. Only being careful to always check everything before starting to bet is all we can do to avoid problems.

Yes, I know that, but the point I'm trying to make with what I said earlier is that the same situation with different cases will also upset you. Especially those who can't withdraw their winnings at all because they haven't met the terms and conditions of the casino.
If the problem is like what we are experiencing (withdrawals are not as fast as usual) it is a matter of us being more patient. But for those who have different problems, they have to go through a more complicated process. Therefore we must be careful in everything before entering into gambling, as I said before, lest we get into the same hole.

If the withdrawal process takes longer than usual, it could be their fault, but we have to see how the network situation is so we know whether many transactions have been validated. If it turns out that many transactions on the network have not been validated, the casino cannot do anything because the transactions they make have to wait in line and we also have to be more patient.

They should be more careful before entering the site and make sure everything is. And if they find there are rules they don't want, they don't need to continue registering because there will be problems for them. But if everything is acceptable, they can enter the site and still follow all the rules in the casino.

Reading all of them will make us more familiar with the rules and we will not break them. And if we feel that someone doesn't understand the rules, we can contact the support service, which will usually be at the casino 24/7 so we can contact it whenever we want. And learn all the rules to play gambling comfortably at the casino. Don't because of our ignorance get us into trouble when we want to withdraw money.

I agree follow you with that, with bonuses it's understandable if ever that there are wagering requirements that needed to complete but with a welcome bonus that mostly being used to attract gambler to use the platform, with more than 2x wagering requirements that's something that a gambler will be annoyed, especially if that person didn't bother to read the terms and condition behind that welcoming bonus reward.

"Playing for fun" is a phrase thrown around so often in the gambling world. Yet, it's rather perplexing that your "fun" is measured by the number of hours you put into the game, isn't it? While it's true that wagering requirements might not pose as "trouble" for you, they certainly factor into the larger structure of your gaming habits.

Regarding bonuses, your dismissal seems a bit too nonchalant. You say, "The bonus money is just free... we should not cling to it..." Interesting perspective. Yet, isn't it those free bonuses that keep you tethered to the casino, bound in a cycle of continuous play? They're not merely "extra credit", but carefully calculated incentives designed to ensure you stay longer, play more, and thus, spend more.

In the grand scheme of things, isn't the concept of "letting go" fundamentally contradicted by your admission of prolonged hours spent at the casino? Are these not manifestations of an insidious form of attachment?

Very well said mate, the terms of service of a casino is like a manual for an android game one download to his or her phone and about to play it for the first time..

If its a game you've never heard of, or seen or watched some one play it before meaning you know absolutely about the game, and you download this game and getting set to play it, there is no way you can instantly play the game like a pro without first reading the games "how to play" documentations, this is also how it is with casinos terms of service, the Tos is where users learn everything they need to know about the casino, and even some of the game offered by the casino,.

As a regular gambler, I don’t consider wagering requirements to give me trouble when gambling especially when withdrawing my funds since I tend to play all my bankroll as much as possible because I’m playing to get some fun and not to meet the casino wagering requirements. I eventually hit that requirements without knowing once I’m done playing because I always play long hours when gambling since I’m always playing slow to cherish my gaming experience.

Bonuses can be forfeited if you already lose the bonus balance. I don’t think it’s requirements is a big deal on gambling since it’s just an extra credit for playing which you can leave behind if you want to stop already without completing the bonus requirements. The bonus money is just free, We should not cling it as if we own it already so that we can easily let it go.

Well, even though it's not about the wagering requirements that come with a bonus or a reward but it's about a wagering requirement for a simple deposit without any bonus, you are still right that most people get into trouble only because of the lack of the basic ability to read the terms and conditions either of the casino or of a bonus that they are claiming, and that is the reason why they start arguing and blaming the casino later on.

Bonus offers usually come with very high wagering requirements and casinos tend to put those requirements so that users don't abuse the bonuses given, and people are mostly okay with that, but when it comes to wagering requirements for a deposit without any bonus, it starts to become frustrating if it's anywhere above 2x.

It's back to them, whether they will always be someone who falls into the same hole, or they will improve themselves and be more thorough before entering the site. We as users who are the same as them (gamblers) will certainly feel worried and sorry for them, because we will also definitely feel something they experience, especially in the withdrawal problem. I personally also sometimes get annoyed when my withdrawal process takes longer than usual, especially if they can't withdraw, of course it will make them emotional. But it must be realized that it is the result of their negligence, and they should be able to learn from their mistakes.

But it really happens in the gambling world where there are still many gamblers out there who are not careful and miss reading the rules so that later they will experience problems when they want to withdraw their money. Indeed, we cannot blame them because they are used to doing things like that, but we also cannot sit idly by watching those people continue to make mistakes like that.

The gambler must read the rules so that he doesn't miss something that may be important to him and will not cause difficulties later. By always ensuring we won't get into trouble or know the rules, we can withdraw our winnings without difficulty.

Indeed, it's an additional risk instead of treating it as additional perks, if there're conditions that's unclear or something that you needed to reach before you can achieve and take out the benefits, as there are gamblers who don't have time to keep trying to while there are also gamblers who are willing if they know what to accomplish and they will try some luck and enjoy if they manage to reach and win that additional perks after completing the wagering requirements.

That is a big mistake on their part because I can't imagine someone going ahead with making a deposits without even knowing what the condition of service is and what to expect,  if one just go ahead to make deposits and staking some games without first of all reading the terms and conditions of the casino it then means that the player will be ready to face whatever comes out of that action.

And such a gambler doesn't have any right to claim because in all the casinos already make available those terms of service in the contract that the player assigned them at every given time.

Well, you are right, and I personally can not really blame the players who always sign up, deposit and start playing on a casino without first reading or going through the terms and conditions of the casino, the truth is that, we all at some point in our gambling life have done the same, this I believe is one thing no gambler can deny not being guilty of..

But then it's good for us all to learn, no matter how in a hurry one is to sign up and start playing, it is always best to some time and read the terms and conditions of the casino, and though I understand that at that very point, the terms and conditions always looks like a very long text of jargons with no meaning, but then, it's always best to suspend whatever, calm nerves down, read and understand before proceeding with what ever game you wanted to play, there is still several other games to bet on, just incase the game you were going to bet on is already over at the time you are through reading the terms and conditions..

gamblers need to learn the hard way before they come to the point that ToS is equally important when it comes to playing on any site. each site has their own version of ToS, so don't be too confident that when you read the terms of your first casino, will also apply to the next.
that's the common mistake of most gamblers, they only check the site's terms when they feel they are being screwed by the site, but it is not.