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Quote from: tusandii on August 05, 2023, 03:47:52 AM

But unfortunately there are lots of gamblers who don't want to know or read every provision and when they already know, the gamblers blame the gambling sites.

They can't go after it if the TOS (Terms of Service) is clear, and they didn't violate it or fail to comply. Those who complain but do not read the TOS are morons. I mean, before they click that sign-up button, it's presumed that they fully understood the terms. Now that they make a mistake, they act like they are the victims.

A gambling site takes care of its reputation as that's the only way they can grow in the long run. To protect that reputation, they have terms that are favorable to them, which is not illegal at the same time. That's something every gambler should understand.

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Quote from: shasan on August 02, 2023, 07:35:37 PM

Quote from: Shinpako09 on August 02, 2023, 03:28:27 PM

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As further as you are not blame to any gambling site for their terms and service there is no issue whether you have read their terms or not. Nice to see that you usually do not read their terms like me and you do not blame any site, especially any type of gambling (casino, sportsbook) site.

Now that's what all gamblers really have to have because that way no gamblers blame gambling sites just because there are rules that they don't understand first.
Even though a gambler does not understand the provisions that apply, when they can accept and fulfill all the conditions, the comfort and satisfaction when they are on the gambling site can definitely be felt.
But unfortunately there are lots of gamblers who don't want to know or read every provision and when they already know, the gamblers blame the gambling sites.

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Quote from: shasan on August 02, 2023, 07:35:37 PM

Quote from: Shinpako09 on August 02, 2023, 03:28:27 PM

The same goes for me. Since then, I've never read the Terms of Service on any website. If the site isn't well-known, I might read one or two, but if it is, I don't bother. I had no problems up to now. Can't blame casinos for constantly introducing new regulations; they're just doing it for the sake of their site, to battle abuses and loopholes that illegal doers might exploit and I don't see anything wrong with it.

As further as you are not blame to any gambling site for their terms and service there is no issue whether you have read their terms or not. Nice to see that you usually do not read their terms like me and you do not blame any site, especially any type of gambling (casino, sportsbook) site.

That means he can accept whatever happens next and maybe he just wants to play gambling for fun, not for money. People really should be able to do as he did by not using gambling as a place to make money so he doesn't really care about the rules that apply. Using only the money that they can afford in the sense that it is small money, he can get pleasure from gambling. He can also stop quickly and not deposit more money to recover his previous losses.

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Quote from: Shinpako09 on August 02, 2023, 03:28:27 PM

Quote from: shasan on August 02, 2023, 03:08:01 PM

You are right it is one of the main reasons for ignoring terms and conditions. I also do not read all the terms and conditions as I think I can fulfill all the terms and conditions. And in my online life, I have never faced any problem with the terms and conditions anywhere especially on gambling sites.

The same goes for me. Since then, I've never read the Terms of Service on any website. If the site isn't well-known, I might read one or two, but if it is, I don't bother. I had no problems up to now. Can't blame casinos for constantly introducing new regulations; they're just doing it for the sake of their site, to battle abuses and loopholes that illegal doers might exploit and I don't see anything wrong with it.

If you do not find it necessary or you simply do not like to read those terms then that is your call, but maybe it could be a good idea to read at least the list of countries from which it is forbidden to play at that casino, as this is probably one of the most important terms a casino can establish and it is one that can make or break your experience.

As if you happen to live there at the moment and you were unaware of that policy then it is likely most casinos will refuse to pay what they owe you and never agree to allow any withdrawal.

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Quote from: Shinpako09 on August 02, 2023, 03:28:27 PM

The same goes for me. Since then, I've never read the Terms of Service on any website. If the site isn't well-known, I might read one or two, but if it is, I don't bother. I had no problems up to now. Can't blame casinos for constantly introducing new regulations; they're just doing it for the sake of their site, to battle abuses and loopholes that illegal doers might exploit and I don't see anything wrong with it.

As further as you are not blame to any gambling site for their terms and service there is no issue whether you have read their terms or not. Nice to see that you usually do not read their terms like me and you do not blame any site, especially any type of gambling (casino, sportsbook) site.

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Quote from: danadc on August 01, 2023, 05:34:21 PM

When I go to play in a casino that I don't know and want to make a deposit, I always check the requirements to withdraw the money, the requirement that they demand now is KYC, that's something they always have to do, the rest I haven't Having achieved other requirements that are so demanding, unless a bonus is chosen where that bonus is decisive to withdraw later, with difficult requirements, I have learned that for everything you have to read well in casinos, because every detail counts to change the things or the probabilities of withdrawals, and it is money that is being put at stake, then with more reason.

^ When exploring a new casino and considering making a deposit, I always make sure to check the requirements for withdrawing the money. One common requirement they demand now is KYC (Know Your Customer), which is something casinos typically do for security and regulatory purposes, and next is the wager requirements which are pretty common now.
In my experience, some casinos may have other demanding requirements, but unless I opt for a bonus with difficult withdrawal conditions, I have not encountered excessively challenging criteria. Nonetheless, I have learned that in the world of casinos, attention to detail is crucial because every aspect can impact your chances of successful withdrawals, especially when real money is at stake. Therefore, it is important to read everything carefully and understand the terms and conditions, as this can greatly help the outcome of your gaming experience.

Indeed, being attentive to any rules is very important, I like your comment regarding to money matters, yes, there's always concerning rules especially in terms of withdrawing your money there are requirements that you needed to complete and like you mentioned KYC is now mostly implemented, regarding to wagering requirements there's also difference with accepting the welcome bonuses or any other form of bonuses, there are corresponding required wager before you can take that money away from the casino,

it's not free money that you can just collect and withdraw any time you want, but for you to be hook and try your luck and most of the time with hardship to complete the requirements frustration will lead you aggression and the end outcome you will lose your money and the house will take that money away from you.

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Quote from: Fortify on August 02, 2023, 04:19:15 PM

Quote from: GxSTxV on April 11, 2023, 07:42:56 PM

I recently discovered that I signed up for a casino without thoroughly reading its terms and conditions agreement. But of course this was entirely my fault even that I am still bothered by the withdrawal requirements on deposits. It is well known that deposit bonuses or any bonus offered by a casino will have wagering requirements that goes to x50 or more. What truly concerns me is the 5X wagering requirement on normal deposits without any bonus in order to withdraw the initial deposit or winnings.
To clarify things better here is an example : if you were to deposit $1000 and win $200 in your first few games then you wouldnt be able to withdraw your winnings or even your deposits without wagering at least $5000. This means that 80% of the time, you would lose your money before reaching the required amount.
In my opinion this term is unfair. I am not attacking any specific casino, but I do believe that if users were aware of these requirements they would be less likely to deposit their money in such casinos since there are other casinos without such stringent requirements.

"If it looks too good to be true, then it probably is". There's a reason that many gambling sites out there can offer these supposedly huge promotions, where they dangle $500 of "free" cash in front of players. In reality you have to wager it so many times that you'll fall victim to the natural losses that a casino will inflict on your bankroll. However the casinos are banking on you ignoring all the losses and becoming conditioned to playing their selection of games, with all the triggers and habit forming behaviors that come out of it. Even if you do end up with 50 bucks left, they know that you'll likely just return it straight back to them. Quite often they force you to play your deposited money first as well, so you'll lose that long before the "free" cash disappears too.

They would really be making it as much as possible to be that interesting for them to hook up those gamblers to deposit into the platform and would really be able to get those bonuses and diving it out which we know that
it is really that kind of deceptive kind of approach on having these kind of things but in the sense that they are giving out those kind of terms and conditions then it would really be just depending on a certain gambler whether they would be activating these bonuses or not according to their likes but since you are a noob then you would directly be getting these bonuses and on the time that you cant be able to withdraw just because you hadn't able to reach out such threshold then this is where you have realized that it was really that a huge mistake that you have taken that bonus. Wagering requirement is something that would fucked you up along the
way and on the time that you are trying out to get those wagering requirement but since we are talking about gambling then this is basically you would be losing in long time session on which it would be leading out
on the conclusion that you would be losing until the very end if you arent that lucky enough.

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Quote from: GxSTxV on April 11, 2023, 07:42:56 PM

I recently discovered that I signed up for a casino without thoroughly reading its terms and conditions agreement. But of course this was entirely my fault even that I am still bothered by the withdrawal requirements on deposits. It is well known that deposit bonuses or any bonus offered by a casino will have wagering requirements that goes to x50 or more. What truly concerns me is the 5X wagering requirement on normal deposits without any bonus in order to withdraw the initial deposit or winnings.
To clarify things better here is an example : if you were to deposit $1000 and win $200 in your first few games then you wouldnt be able to withdraw your winnings or even your deposits without wagering at least $5000. This means that 80% of the time, you would lose your money before reaching the required amount.
In my opinion this term is unfair. I am not attacking any specific casino, but I do believe that if users were aware of these requirements they would be less likely to deposit their money in such casinos since there are other casinos without such stringent requirements.

"If it looks too good to be true, then it probably is". There's a reason that many gambling sites out there can offer these supposedly huge promotions, where they dangle $500 of "free" cash in front of players. In reality you have to wager it so many times that you'll fall victim to the natural losses that a casino will inflict on your bankroll. However the casinos are banking on you ignoring all the losses and becoming conditioned to playing their selection of games, with all the triggers and habit forming behaviors that come out of it. Even if you do end up with 50 bucks left, they know that you'll likely just return it straight back to them. Quite often they force you to play your deposited money first as well, so you'll lose that long before the "free" cash disappears too.

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Quote from: shasan on August 02, 2023, 03:08:01 PM

Quote from: erep on August 02, 2023, 02:57:48 PM

Many people ignore the terms and conditions of the casino because they think all the TOS points at each casino have the same rules, some people just review them without reading the full terms of the casino. So we can't blame the casino if they have mentioned all the rules in TOS and if the casino team does something that harms the user but their decision is never mentioned in the rules then the casino should be reported with valid evidence on scam accusations board some users will review your report for an intense check of the reputation of that casino.

You are right it is one of the main reasons for ignoring terms and conditions. I also do not read all the terms and conditions as I think I can fulfill all the terms and conditions. And in my online life, I have never faced any problem with the terms and conditions anywhere especially on gambling sites.

The same goes for me. Since then, I've never read the Terms of Service on any website. If the site isn't well-known, I might read one or two, but if it is, I don't bother. I had no problems up to now. Can't blame casinos for constantly introducing new regulations; they're just doing it for the sake of their site, to battle abuses and loopholes that illegal doers might exploit and I don't see anything wrong with it.

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Quote from: erep on August 02, 2023, 02:57:48 PM

Many people ignore the terms and conditions of the casino because they think all the TOS points at each casino have the same rules, some people just review them without reading the full terms of the casino. So we can't blame the casino if they have mentioned all the rules in TOS and if the casino team does something that harms the user but their decision is never mentioned in the rules then the casino should be reported with valid evidence on scam accusations board some users will review your report for an intense check of the reputation of that casino.

You are right it is one of the main reasons for ignoring terms and conditions. I also do not read all the terms and conditions as I think I can fulfill all the terms and conditions. And in my online life, I have never faced any problem with the terms and conditions anywhere especially on gambling sites.

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Quote from: shasan on August 02, 2023, 01:30:18 PM

Without reading the terms and conditions of the casino means the user is careless and those types of user blame casino (gambling site) for the fault of the user. If any site doesn't mention the terms or rule then we can rise our voice against the site. But if the site mention then blaming the site is usefullness.

Many people ignore the terms and conditions of the casino because they think all the TOS points at each casino have the same rules, some people just review them without reading the full terms of the casino. So we can't blame the casino if they have mentioned all the rules in TOS and if the casino team does something that harms the user but their decision is never mentioned in the rules then the casino should be reported with valid evidence on scam accusations board some users will review your report for an intense check of the reputation of that casino.

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Quote from: danadc on August 02, 2023, 02:26:12 PM

I don't say much, because sometimes I'm quite careless, when I go to a casino I don't read the terms and conditions many, casinos have many surprises, not all of them are good, some are a bit weird, strange and we think that one thing is good but They are full of conditions, so every time we go to enter a casino, the first thing is to look in the forum to see what its reputation is like, maybe with a good reputation I'll give myself to the casino, otherwise I find it difficult to do Trusting a casino is quite risky, it's not just because of the kyc requirements, now there are more things they ask for.

If you are careless then you should pay for that if there is anything wrong. But before happening anything wrong we should be careful to avoid any types of loss or misunderstanding. If we become careful and aware about the ins and outs then we will be able to avoid our loss.

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Quote from: bayu7adi on August 02, 2023, 05:46:52 AM

It's truly regrettable that you overlooked the platform's rules and requirements. However, such policies would deter any gamblers from depositing their funds into it. Although online gambling carries a higher risk of fraud, at the very least, the platform should implement a more equitable mechanism.

With such a scheme in place, gamblers would be compelled to deposit an amount larger than what they could withdraw. I, for one, will steer clear of such a platform. There are still plenty of platforms that are fairer and hold a higher reputation.

I don't say much, because sometimes I'm quite careless, when I go to a casino I don't read the terms and conditions many, casinos have many surprises, not all of them are good, some are a bit weird, strange and we think that one thing is good but They are full of conditions, so every time we go to enter a casino, the first thing is to look in the forum to see what its reputation is like, maybe with a good reputation I'll give myself to the casino, otherwise I find it difficult to do Trusting a casino is quite risky, it's not just because of the kyc requirements, now there are more things they ask for.

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Quote from: AicecreaME on August 02, 2023, 05:55:31 AM

Quote from: shasan on August 01, 2023, 07:59:29 PM

Quote from: Hamphser on August 01, 2023, 06:20:02 PM

whatsoever terms and conditions that they would be having neither on your deposit or wagering requirement.It would really be just that normal that they would be asking out such requirement and all of platforms is like this

There may ask for KYC or not but regarding deposits they must have a wagering requirement. If they have no wagering requirement then they would be working like an exchanger and a lot of scammers will use the gambling platform to hide their identity as a lot of crypto gambling sites usually do not ask for KYC.

I agree with this.

It's really important for casinos to establish certain requirements so that their business won't be abused. Since there are a lot of people who don't really uphold good moral compass and integrity, it's crucial to build regulations to be followed by any player who will agree with the terms of service and policies of the casino site. It's just on the player's end whether they would agree to such or not and just find another casino that caters their preferences. Hence, it's really important to read and understand what's stated in the TOS before confirming to agree with it. Otherwise, you'll just end up blaming the casino and regretting at the end because you overlooked something significant in the first place.

And I also agree that there should really be a specific wagering amount that is reasonable so that the players will not take advantage of the casino site as some sort of exchanger or instrument to their illegal activities.

Without reading the terms and conditions of the casino means the user is careless and those types of user blame casino (gambling site) for the fault of the user. If any site doesn't mention the terms or rule then we can rise our voice against the site. But if the site mention then blaming the site is usefullness.

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Quote from: shasan on August 01, 2023, 07:59:29 PM

Quote from: Hamphser on August 01, 2023, 06:20:02 PM

whatsoever terms and conditions that they would be having neither on your deposit or wagering requirement.It would really be just that normal that they would be asking out such requirement and all of platforms is like this

There may ask for KYC or not but regarding deposits they must have a wagering requirement. If they have no wagering requirement then they would be working like an exchanger and a lot of scammers will use the gambling platform to hide their identity as a lot of crypto gambling sites usually do not ask for KYC.

I agree with this.

It's really important for casinos to establish certain requirements so that their business won't be abused. Since there are a lot of people who don't really uphold good moral compass and integrity, it's crucial to build regulations to be followed by any player who will agree with the terms of service and policies of the casino site. It's just on the player's end whether they would agree to such or not and just find another casino that caters their preferences. Hence, it's really important to read and understand what's stated in the TOS before confirming to agree with it. Otherwise, you'll just end up blaming the casino and regretting at the end because you overlooked something significant in the first place.

And I also agree that there should really be a specific wagering amount that is reasonable so that the players will not take advantage of the casino site as some sort of exchanger or instrument to their illegal activities.

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It's truly regrettable that you overlooked the platform's rules and requirements. However, such policies would deter any gamblers from depositing their funds into it. Although online gambling carries a higher risk of fraud, at the very least, the platform should implement a more equitable mechanism.

With such a scheme in place, gamblers would be compelled to deposit an amount larger than what they could withdraw. I, for one, will steer clear of such a platform. There are still plenty of platforms that are fairer and hold a higher reputation.

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Quote from: Hamphser on August 01, 2023, 06:20:02 PM

whatsoever terms and conditions that they would be having neither on your deposit or wagering requirement.It would really be just that normal that they would be asking out such requirement and all of platforms is like this

There may ask for KYC or not but regarding deposits they must have a wagering requirement. If they have no wagering requirement then they would be working like an exchanger and a lot of scammers will use the gambling platform to hide their identity as a lot of crypto gambling sites usually do not ask for KYC.

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Quote from: danadc on August 01, 2023, 05:34:21 PM

Quote from: Fredomago on July 31, 2023, 02:21:27 AM

Quote from: piebeyb on July 31, 2023, 02:02:32 AM

Quote from: Fredomago on July 30, 2023, 12:05:54 PM

Indeed, we need to take that time to read up and know those grounds as we never know if some of those conditions are far from those other casinos that we are used to play our game, it's tough when you got surprise because of the rules and you are in the impressions that you don't know that there are conditions like that, because if you take time to read and understand you will not be unaware with how to react and what you should do when you are in the part where you will withdraw your first payout.

This can also be a piece of advice that beginners should be reminded of because most of them experience problems like this, just like what I did before getting to know online casinos and playing without reading the casino rules, so it's hard to complain about something that was actually my fault for not reading it first. first, so it's really important for beginners to take a little time to read the casino rules before making the first deposit and playing let alone withdrawing money.

Many of the cases that I have seen so far from beginners in this forum have the same impression as what we discuss in this thread, even though they can take the time to read before complaining about the problem in this forum, it is clear that there are casino rules that we must read before withdrawing for example like wagering requirements and more.

Advice that will help everyone to avoid having hard time when they are trying to withdraw their money, it's important that you have that idea in how you will reach whatever the wagering requirements or what are the ground behind the promotions or anything that related with your money, before you deposit better to make sure that you are aware and you are willing to complete all those required requirements, with that right expectations you will be able to decide whether you wanted to continue or better to stay away.

When I go to play in a casino that I don't know and want to make a deposit, I always check the requirements to withdraw the money, the requirement that they demand now is KYC, that's something they always have to do, the rest I haven't Having achieved other requirements that are so demanding, unless a bonus is chosen where that bonus is decisive to withdraw later, with difficult requirements, I have learned that for everything you have to read well in casinos, because every detail counts to change the things or the probabilities of withdrawals, and it is money that is being put at stake, then with more reason.

This is why its always been that recommended that you should really be reading up sites terms and conditions most of the time because this is where you would be usually be able to read up those requirements or
whatsoever terms and conditions that they would be having neither on your deposit or wagering requirement.It would really be just that normal that they would be asking out such requirement and all of platforms is like this.They cant just let people do make out deposit and then make out direct withdrawal because this would really be in connect with possible money laundering and since these platforms are regulated
on which means that they are in line with government rules.

This is why on the time that you do make out deposits then it would be automatically be in line or needing that kind of requirement before you could withdraw. DOnt expect that they would
really just let you easily get out without those wagering. If you dont mind about spending or withdrawal then it wont really be that much of an issue as long you do
know that the site you are dealing with is legit in case if there are some huge wins.

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Quote from: danadc on August 01, 2023, 05:34:21 PM

When I go to play in a casino that I don't know and want to make a deposit, I always check the requirements to withdraw the money, the requirement that they demand now is KYC, that's something they always have to do, the rest I haven't Having achieved other requirements that are so demanding, unless a bonus is chosen where that bonus is decisive to withdraw later, with difficult requirements, I have learned that for everything you have to read well in casinos, because every detail counts to change the things or the probabilities of withdrawals, and it is money that is being put at stake, then with more reason.

^ When exploring a new casino and considering making a deposit, I always make sure to check the requirements for withdrawing the money. One common requirement they demand now is KYC (Know Your Customer), which is something casinos typically do for security and regulatory purposes, and next is the wager requirements which are pretty common now.
In my experience, some casinos may have other demanding requirements, but unless I opt for a bonus with difficult withdrawal conditions, I have not encountered excessively challenging criteria. Nonetheless, I have learned that in the world of casinos, attention to detail is crucial because every aspect can impact your chances of successful withdrawals, especially when real money is at stake. Therefore, it is important to read everything carefully and understand the terms and conditions, as this can greatly help the outcome of your gaming experience.

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Quote from: Fredomago on July 31, 2023, 02:21:27 AM

Quote from: piebeyb on July 31, 2023, 02:02:32 AM

Quote from: Fredomago on July 30, 2023, 12:05:54 PM

Indeed, we need to take that time to read up and know those grounds as we never know if some of those conditions are far from those other casinos that we are used to play our game, it's tough when you got surprise because of the rules and you are in the impressions that you don't know that there are conditions like that, because if you take time to read and understand you will not be unaware with how to react and what you should do when you are in the part where you will withdraw your first payout.

This can also be a piece of advice that beginners should be reminded of because most of them experience problems like this, just like what I did before getting to know online casinos and playing without reading the casino rules, so it's hard to complain about something that was actually my fault for not reading it first. first, so it's really important for beginners to take a little time to read the casino rules before making the first deposit and playing let alone withdrawing money.

Many of the cases that I have seen so far from beginners in this forum have the same impression as what we discuss in this thread, even though they can take the time to read before complaining about the problem in this forum, it is clear that there are casino rules that we must read before withdrawing for example like wagering requirements and more.

Advice that will help everyone to avoid having hard time when they are trying to withdraw their money, it's important that you have that idea in how you will reach whatever the wagering requirements or what are the ground behind the promotions or anything that related with your money, before you deposit better to make sure that you are aware and you are willing to complete all those required requirements, with that right expectations you will be able to decide whether you wanted to continue or better to stay away.

When I go to play in a casino that I don't know and want to make a deposit, I always check the requirements to withdraw the money, the requirement that they demand now is KYC, that's something they always have to do, the rest I haven't Having achieved other requirements that are so demanding, unless a bonus is chosen where that bonus is decisive to withdraw later, with difficult requirements, I have learned that for everything you have to read well in casinos, because every detail counts to change the things or the probabilities of withdrawals, and it is money that is being put at stake, then with more reason.

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