Topic: Waldohoover (aka coiningsolutions.com / DidHeJust ) stole 16.64122524 btc - page 4. (Read 10431 times)

I don't see why he can't man up and pay you the 15BTC now..none of this take 10BTC malarkey and nag and nag and maybe if you're lucky he'll cough up the rest (but prolly not). Prove us wrong Waldo and do the right thing, until then my neg feedback stays on you.

But I never denied it. In fact that is what I want.
I proposed it.
QS proposed it, I agreed
QS proposed again, I agreed
You are proposing it, I agree

My deal is 15 btc but ofc receiving 10 btc and keep this until I get the 5 btc left of my deal or something else is better than him running with my entire money.
Restressing though that the 10 btc is not what I want, but a value waldo agrees is fair and can send at least that for now. I already know the answer, but, waldo can you send the 10 btc now then and we keep working what is left then?

TO get 10btc back is better then nothing. After you get the 10 back you can still fight for the other 6.5 BTC. atleast you could have part of the lost coin back.

Of course I didn't mean you. Why would you think that? You are being altruist and helping us to reach a fair outcome for both of us.
I meant Waldo and what he said http://prntscr.com/7o11df

I do not want everything, or I would be asking for 16.65 btc. I never asked that.
I also agree with you, but I don't think he will. I think he will do as I told you and wrote here "I already refunded so no need to refund anything else. He should have thought about that before accepting"  

I already said many times, I never affirmed this wasn't in long beach. I said I believe there is a chance it never left your deposit but I could not prove it. What I repeat is that long beach port to your deposit is 9 miles "trip".

This is by far not peanuts to me. I am just trying to let you know that you will probably not get everything you want and the same is true for him. If he is offering to send you money to refund you at least partially then let him refund you. If he gives you an amount you don't think is fair then continue to try to work things out with him.

You and I offered him that already. I don't think he will accept that. He will say "10 btc or nothing. If I send that is going to be my refund and I will not send anything else more and chalkboard has to end everything"
Any person or business would do AT LEAST that, but well, yeah...


Waldo, let's end this already, man. Send me the 15 btc so I can delete everything, tell everyone this has been sorted and ask them to remove bad feedback and we never waste time on each other again. The 15 btc is enough to pay half the shipping price, and btc dropped by $9 since I offered the deal. Naturally I would keep even if it dropped to $10, as I already proved I would before. If you are not doing that at least send me the amount you believe is fair for now. This is "peanuts" for you after all and I cannot believe you can be so blind not to see this is the right thing, to say the very least...

Dude just post an address for him to refund you. If he pays you a less amount that you think is fair then you can continue to hash out your differences.

I am telling you right now that whatever happens the solution is not going to be something that you both are 100% happy about. There are too many unanswered questions that were not worked out prior to entering into an agreement with him.

Waldohoover told me he was going to "eat the shipper's fee completely" and refund me: http://prntscr.com/7o0kzj
Waldohoover later says I have to pay ALL shipping fee: http://prntscr.com/7o0lga

I offered a "fair deal" (much more so to Waldo than to me) weeks before making this whole thing public. Waldo was not satisfied.
I offered a "fair deal" (much more fair to Waldo than the previous one!)  2 days ago. You ignored it and went on to bring up completely baseless claims.
You should have taken any of them.

I want everyone to see this. Waldo all the time claims I am the one pushing him to pay the entire bill. That's a lie and absurd. I never suggested this and  he is the only one trying to do so. He just did again now. Check my second picture on this post! Waldo wants me to completely pay his made up shipping fee, not willing to share a single cent, for a failed method he brought up after deal was agreed and he cancelled
Once again for those who arent understanding, conventional method would be to my door and I know they wouldn't check whether an used electronic was used or not. I didn't even know about this law because I imported electronic all the time. Through port as Waldo changed later it would be 100% checked and SEIZED. Not even returned. This package never left California.

The 15 btc deal I was going to pay half of this made up shipping (this $1000 shipping fee for a 9 mile trip is a lie and a joke + waldo changed shipment method to one who wouldnt work + waldo said it was already shipped when i wanted to cancel due to this stupid sending method (it would only be shipped WEEKS later) + waldo started selling these way before 11th june as I already proved). I didn't have to pay or offer anything, but I did anyway because time after time I have to be the only human being in this whole nightmare.
I am the one who has always had to offer deals
I am the one who has to ask for replies
I am the only one who gets ignored
I am the only who apologizes or thanks
I am the only who doesn't come up with lies or made up stuff, but hard evidence instead

I'll do the favor of still accept the 15 btc only if sent today (btc price dropped even more! good for you!) to end this ordeal and waste of time to me and everyone who is following out of altruism (thank you once again, everyone!) 139roMCo5qrHjXGb7wUQoNcTMw3j3HrwgV
I will lose a lot of money and time, but if this is not sorted I will make sure to be altruist like the people who participated are and will make sure no man passes through what I am passing. In my entire life I have never ever had to deal with something so absurd as this. I will be relentless (like I am being and I forewarned you many times and you disbelieve and now are paying the price to check things actually happening) and not cease for a single week for my entire life to pursue and publish this whole thing to everything related to you.

People who are reading this, is my 15 btc more than fair or not? (Waldo will come with his shill accounts, but ok, I want your opinion too!)

Your point is? I already proved that was a senseless post when you first made it. Now you are quoting yourself when I already proved it makes no sense. Everybody else is seeing it, but you cannot. I don't even disbelieve you can't. I'd like you to explain how "clearing up a lot" my experience with bitmain has to do with anything at all. Enlighten me please.

You keep on repeating I asked for a lower invoice. If you think that is bad, why did you agree to it? Why did you do it? WHY DID YOU LOWER INVOICE?
You lose too much time making up stuff and lying, Waldo. You lose too much time creating fake accounts and having lunatic talks to yourself thinking you are fooling everyone while you are not fooling a single soul. You underestimate everyone's intellect because you think you are high and mighty. You lose too much time looking for completely senseless things to attack me.
Hadn't you lost so much time with these things you would have the time to answer your clients properly instead of robbing them, like the numerous claims there are in this thread. All completely unanswered.
You cannot be a businessman, Waldo. You are an horrible person and you treat every customer as if they are a waste of your time and a pain in the ass. You think you are doing people a favor dealing a voluntary trade with you. You told me that yourself in private in the very beggining of our deal.


For the fourth or fifth time, as I already proved with evidence.
1) I did not cancel this deal
2) I did not cancel this deal "because I wanted to avoid taxes"
3) I did not cancel this deal "because I wanted to avoid taxes" after goods arrived in my country and were sent back to you
4) You changed shipment method after payment was done
5) You changed shipment mehtod after payment was done and everything was agreed upon
6) Your method was not allowed to be done according to the law and was going to be 100% verified. As I already explained you government was going to seize the package and not even send it back to you. I already proved this here and to you numerous times before this. This was said by me, by every person I asked and the BRAZILIAN PARTNER ARRANGED BY YOU WHEN I CALLED THEM
7) You are still ignoring this, for days: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11757357
Waldohoover lied and made this $1000 price up. This has been brought up numerous times by me and kebabman and he is still stalling on this until he can get the shipping company to help him lie or provide a fake photoshop evidence
8 ) You cancelled the deal and started to sell the products to other people

Package traveled for 9 miles. Not sea. Not interncontinental. 9 miles. You changed shipping terms weeks after everything was right to best suit you without consulting the law and you made the deal impossible. You cancelled the deal.
Every single point I bring up and reply I do so with evidence, repeatedly. You keep stalling and holding my money. Everytime you lie you lose points with everyone, specially your future customers. Everytime you completely treat me as garbage you lose customers. The list goes on.
Why do you not do as I suggest and so did quickseller? You believe you have to send me at least 10 btc, right? Why do you not send this part that yourself believe is fair and we keep on dealing on the rest? Why are you making my money hostage?
Waldohoover / DidHeJust / CoiningSolutions / SGX Pring give me back my money you stole!

I hope Waldo makes this right for you mate. I think that your offer of 15BTC is a fair trade-off to resolve this matter.

What does this have to do with anything? Are you this desperate and dumb to bring anything up, even completely innocuous and out of context?
Bitmain sent me a somewhat faulty hardware. It's hashing fine so I ignored it and kept it without hassles. They sent it through conventional method, not sea port. They added more price to the actual price, and on top of the already very high tax I paid even further tax. I paid more tax than what I paid for the miner. I could have returned, but such thought hasn't even crossed my mind, as it didn't now and proved.
This "why didn't you escrow?" being brought up again. For the sixth or seventh time. Ok, really creative. I thought you were reputable and you denied escrow, that's why I accepted it. I am really sorry for being stolen, dude. Please forgive me.
You are the one who likes to look for account activity. Let's see yours. Inactive since beggining april and active again now 3 months later jumping on this thread. Cool. I will let people judge better.

I am done cathering and being complacent with you, Waldo.
"Fact" that I "returned miners" "to avoid taxes"? Ok, that's it. You will ignore me on your main account and when I post about it you will say "I have no patient", even if weeks passes. I am not going through this again. If you have the time to make up completely stupid and absurd lies on shill accounts, you'd have time to defend yourself too.
You are an horrible person and entrepreneur. You are completely irresponsible and try to transfer your entire responsibility to other people's shoulders. You lie time and time again. I am baffled on how you still have business running still. You taking money from them to make them survive due to your horrible skills will not last very long.

I have given you, AGAIN, a fair deal. Not the deal you offered ($1100 for 9 mile shipping + 15% restocking fee + usd calc because btc price changed even though you didn't sell btc). You ignored and went on to create more lies on other accounts. Ok, I am calling the deal off midnight california time if remain unsent.
There are 3 things this taught me
1) how not to be a businessman
2) Be honest, it will be advantageous to myself in the long run
3) never take kindly on people like you

This nightmare has been going for 2 months.
I count on Bitcointalk community's help to please take a look at this case. I am a honest person and Waldo is going around unpunished being completely rude, cold and extremely greedy. I am far from being the first person he harms and this has got to be stopped. It's clear he was supposed to send my btc and apologize, yet he never apologized once (and I did when I shouldn't, many times) and wants to send a much lower value on baseless claims.

I am editing my first post again to truly reflect the situation again. I had even asked people not to negative you because I don't want to kick who already is down and your account is already red. But me being nice to you is seen by you as weakness and you get greedy once more. I will once again contact further people (bitmain, your clients etc), groups (reddit etc) related to you personally, coiningsolutions and sgxprint. I will go after justice with the local authority and justice system as well. I will not allow you to do other people what you did to me!

You previously here have posted in may of last year you understood the import situation to brazil. Also you have stated you wouldn't do a trade without escrow why did you break this rule you made for yourself in may?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11278827
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11279770
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11277371


So Bitmain also screwed you?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11413222

Every single question and claim you just wrote has already been answered before. I already brought them up and explained. Then again replied to Waldo. Then again replied to you: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11754186 Every single one of them explained well and with evidences. Every single of them proved wrong.
You ignoring what I say, repeating lies and being extremely apathetic just like Waldo makes me believe you are him. You are not only replicating his lies, but also are creating new ones.

1) No tracking number, nothing concrete provided by Waldo. Still ignoring a very possible forged email that has been mentioned by me repeatedly and kebabman.
5) Sure you are not. You talk like Waldo. You make up stuff like Waldo. You replicate Waldo's lies. You defend Waldo when it's clear he's an horrible entrepreneur. Only he and extremely apathetic people would agree with him. I don't even doubt Waldo doesn't notice what he does to me and other "clients". He cannot feel anything for them.

6) This has been posted in my first post. Once. I already removed it. You, Waldo and waldo defendants are the only that keep bringing this up. Again, and again.

7) You have got to be kidding me now. I will not even reply to this. Read my previous posts. I know what you are doing, Waldo. You are attempting to get me nervous by claiming extremely absurd things, over and over, and lose my temper here. You failed and the only thing you will succeed on doing is making people see further how a person you are.
8 ) ...

Is their a tracking number showing these items went to the port in LA?
If so as their should be i am sure the 1k for cancellation is about right international freight is a pain in a million ways and costly.

Which I still say that chalkboard should of understood his countries import laws before buying.

I know a few Brazilians that have gotten used bitcoin miners delivered to them.

On a side note i am not a shill of any one i am my self and that it.

You bringing your child into this issue is very sketchy to me. As it is an attempt to win on emotions and not with the facts.

Fact you entered into an agreement to buy miners

Fact you canceled after the fact because the import taxes and regulations in your country.

Not yet proven-Shipped to port of LA.

It seems the issue here is you bought something the seller made good faith to send it. But you wanted to return it since you were gonna have to pay taxes.

I changed thread's title, stopped spreading information and seek for more help, removed irrelevant information and other things you can check on first post. I wanna get this finished, but in a fair and just outcome. I am not desperate for this money and will unfortunately keep on fighting until the end such no fair outcome for both parties arrives.
Not to brag, but with all evidence I have, and even more that Waldo has given for posting here and burning himself, I could extend this and seek much more. I don't want that.

My 15 btc offer still stands, for now. I believe most users will find it much more than fair to Waldo given everything that happened.
I will reassure I didn't have to offer anything. He is the seller. He messed up. He lied. He changed terms. He never apologized for anything. He never offered anything fair. He treated me badly. I could go on with this list for a long time.
I already offered other fair deal to him. Still, I am offering this out of good faith to have this finished and both of us can go their own separated ways.

Please read my posts.
1) If I had to know about it, so did waldohoover. You say I had to know about it, many say he had to know about it. Other will say it's nobody's or both's fault.
2) Everything is happening because waldohoover changed shipping method later. Had we sticked to the plan this wouldn't happen.
3) I have never wanted everything to be on waldohoover. He was the one who wanted to do that to me. This is all over the thread, repeatedly.
4) He is still ignoring all the proved claims that the allegedly $1000 fee for a 9 mile trip could be forged. On the other hand, I am replying everything he and other people are posting, providing evidence.

Bitcoindistributor,
1) I paid 16.65 btc not $3800
2) If converted to USD at the time that is $3900 not $3800
3) When BTC price dropped I disregard it, even though waldo says I am trying to money grab and wouldn't want btc if btc price dropped, I already provided evidence that this is not true.
4) Look at quickseller's latest post, he's a bitcoin believer and keeps a lot of bitcoin
5) He said himself he would "eat the shipping fees alone" and that his restocking fee is 15%. Those would be the only fees incurred, but he gave one of them up later, publicly.
6) If this *1000$ for a 9 mile trip* is real, I am nearly paying half of it, only $63 short. This price, if real, is absurd and he can surely get the shipper to decrease it later.
7) Bitcoin dropped in the last hours. Will I change the 15 btc value? No, I will keep it even if bitcoin went to $150 as I did when it was at $220 and I offered to deal in btc (making me lose $200 at the time early june).

Having now read up on this thread, I have decided to restore waldohoover's trust that I gave him for a previous deal I had with him.

in my opinion, chalkboard17 should have been more diligent getting information on Brazilian tax and import laws before ordering.

The fees incurred for returning the shipment should not be on waldohoover's cap only.

As much sympathy I have for chalkboard17, and even though waldohoover may have used another tone in dealing with the situation, I can't see where he is responsible for making up chalkboard17's loss caused by the varying BTC exchange rate.

The price was in USD, paid in BTC, so logically, a refund should be in USD too, conevrted into BTC at the time the refund is issued. that's common practice.

It is regrettable that you chalboard17 is now in dire straits because of this deal gone wrong, but I can only give the advice not to invest money into any cryptoventure that you can not afford to lose.

Many sellers will actually keep a good amount of their sales in terms of bitcoin. Even overstock keeps 10% of their sales in bitcoin.

I can say that when I sell something for bitcoin, I will almost always keep it entirely in bitcoin, although sometimes I will sell a small amount of such bitcoin in order to cover things like shipping, although even this is pretty rare because I have sufficient fiat money to pay for this.

Miners earn money in terms of bitcoin, and as a result should be priced in terms of bitcoin.

The only thing that should possibly be priced in terms of fiat is the shipping cost. If the seller can prove he actually sold the bitcoin to pay for the shipping then the exchange rate at the time of payment should be used, otherwise the current exchange rate should be used to deduct whatever portion of the shipping cost is decided should be used.

Thats not really fair since you paid $3800 at time and are asking for $3900+ in return. Fair would be each of you taking $500 of the debt of the $1000 shipping fee (if both had fault in the shipping issue) and thus meaning you would receive $3300 of BTC back. At the current rate of $260/BTC that would be 12.697 BTC. For someone "scammed" you sure are asking for him to simply just say "fuck it I'm keeping all of it" considering your "fair" offer is more then the worth USD of BTC sent at the time of trade which is not reasonable at all.

As a seller he converts the BTC you send to USD immediately and you know that you are buying based in USD not BTC. Thus, you are being refunded USD in whatever form you like, sorry the exchange rate went against you.

Once again, I will provide a deal:
Waldo says he will "eat the shipping fees" as he wrote here
Waldo says he works with 15% restocking fee, even though s3 raised in price and he can use box etc again to send to other clients
That is absurd and with all modesty I have all evidence needed to win this case if I stick to the end, however I am tired of this and I am going to assume so are you. Also, one of us is willing to work out a fair deal.
Send me 15 btc then. That's a 1.64122524 difference or $430.32. I am sure you can get this *$1000 9 mile shipping fee* decreased and even if you don't, half of it is $500 so that is $69.68 short.

Once you do that I will confirm you did it here.
I will lock this thread.
I will kindly send one message to everyone who left you bad feedback saying the situation has been solved. If they feel like not removing you solve it with them.
I will delete all other posts in other threads
I can delete all my posts here too, however I think it would be best for you if this doesn't simply disappear. Also, I cannot delete the entire thread I believe since I am not a moderator.
You go on your way and I will go on mine and we never cross again

BTC address: 139roMCo5qrHjXGb7wUQoNcTMw3j3HrwgV
Don't trust me? Ok, we use escrow (Yes, I learned my lesson)