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The problem with lottery winners is that they are bad with money in general. That's why they play the fucking lottery in the first place. An argument could be made that state-sponsored lotteries are a way to keep the poor poor.

It is mt. gox damn it....from what I figure they have to dump $240 million in usd of BTC a month, to get the liguidation done by the end of this year....*them

trustees want their cut and the Japanese Gov't wants this all over with)

thus, we will go to 9k and drop to 7k and rinse wash repeat for a month or two...then the mt. gox trustees will have a timeline, say end of the year and we will

drop to 4k ...it is gonna suck!

May 18, 2018 Andy Pag   

We originally calculated that the sale of the 16k coins that moved should be enough to cover all assets. While it’s regrettable that the court/trustee considers they need cash to cover all the assets before moving forward, we concluded there’s nothing we can do about it. We looked at ways to challenge it legally but there was nothing we could practically do.

The further movement of 8k coins caused some alarm as some people thought it implied that the Trustee was on track to liquidate everything. Our lawyer’s view is that that is not the case, but that we should recalculate to allow for delay payment interest. The bankruptcy statute allows for 5 or 6% pa. So the trustee will need at least 20% more cash than we had originally considered. Again it’s disappointing that so many coins need to be sold, and we can only hope the trustee is getting a good price for them.

He has said that he is selling them in a way that will not affect the market. This suggests he’s selling them to a holder, such as an EFT type institution. We will find out in the course of time.

Our lawyer has met with the trustee and has had conversations with his team. He’s asked me not to divulge the details he shared with me, but the information he gave me left me confident that CR will be approved. The Trustee has to arrange Gox’s finances in such a way that meet the conditions set out by Ito, and the court can then approve CR. There seems to be willing from all parties involved, but it will take some more time, and probably the sale of more bitcoins.

As well as stockpiling the requisite amount of cash, the Trustee also has to establish a Trust vehicle to hold the assets that flow into CR. Once this has done, the conditions for approving CR should be met, and the court can then give the green light. The suggestion is that all creditors vote on being paid through the bankruptcy, (better for fiat claims) or allowing your claim to roll over into the Trust, which will then receive the assets left over after fiat claims have been settled, and distribute them under a CR plan (through an exchange or directly with the help of a third party bespoke crypto payment platform and bank transfers).

Actually, the main problem with many lotto winners is they end up trusting the wrong people and get scammed. Another problem is that they end up being too generous with family and friends who are looking for handouts.

It is mt. gox damn it....from what I figure they have to dump $240 million in usd of BTC a month, to get the liguidation done by the end of this year....*them

trustees want their cut and the Japanese Gov't wants this all over with)

thus, we will go to 9k and drop to 7k and rinse wash repeat for a month or two...then the mt. gox trustees will have a timeline, say end of the year and we will

drop to 4k ...it is gonna suck!

If you read that twitter stream, to this day Charlie doesn't consider Litecoin a scam.

But often we need to reconsider what the definition of a scam truly is.

I mean, to make Litecoin he literally took a snapshot of the Bitcoin source code, changed like 2 easily-found config parameters, and launched it. And he admitted that it took him all of like a long Saturday to change and test it. He put almost zero effort into creating Litecoin. He created an altcoin of Bitcoin with a few clicks of a mouse. What he did, anyone could literally do with enough knowledge of the code.

So what part about that process and goal isn't scammy? Today when people do that with the Bitcoin source, we say that they're doing it for scammy or selfish purposes. But for some reason we give Charlie a pass because he's a nice guy, Bitcoin proponent, and no longer holds any LTC. (Little known fact: he once DID hold a metric shitload of LTC and probably made a million dollars selling some before LTC even hit $0.20c)

Everytime it breaks $9000 somebody on reddit creates a topic and says "this is the last time we see btc under $9k" and then few days later we go under $9k again.

I think they are dumping on us and like many told before they'll keep dumping it till we hit below $5k. They probably have enough bitcoins to give us 2-3 painful years before the next big boom.

indeed... and the fact most are understandably clueless at financial management.
After all, hookers and blow has a fairly poor ROI.

It's not that much if you need to be in one of those places you listed. Where, if you are, you will be paid well enough to be able to afford it (out of necessity) but will still only have a lifestyle on par with someone making 1/5th of your salary elsewhere. A really comfortable retirement starting at age 30 only requires about 2 million though. So it's not that a million is a small amount of money so much as it's that the particular examples you gave are WAY overpriced. For reference you need about 7 million dollars in assets to be in the american 1% and about 3 million to be in the global 1% (those figures assume that you have only assets and no income).

But yea there is a sense in which you are absolutely right. A lot of very financially illiterate people have very bad misconceptions about what a million dollars means. They will play a lottery that promises to pay out a million dollars and think if they could just win than they could live like an elite and never have to work again, which of course is not even close to accurate. It's also why everyone who wins the lottery blows through it all in a couple years, they think they won WAY more than they actually did.

indeed... and the fact most are understandably clueless at financial management.
After all, hookers and blow has a fairly poor ROI.

Target 1 would be 8,600-8,800$ if BTC breaks that we are off to the 9,000$ level again.

It's also why everyone who wins the lottery blows through it all in a couple years, they think they won WAY more than they actually did.

A million dollars isn’t that much in the scheme of things.  That’s half a house in Vancouver, Canada.   Probably a third of a house in Silicon Valley.   It’s not even a downpayment in London unless you are an hour from the City.