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Good day Bitcoinland.
Forty-two point six thousand
On this New Year's Eve.

Didn't quite triple
In price this calendar year
But it did come close.

Let's triple the price
Again in this coming year
And in '25.

Healthy New Year Everyone!

Happy New Year WO

2024 be prosperous for all.

X

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Every New Year's Eve Bitcoin Price:

2009 - < $0.01
2010 - $0.10
2011 - $4.41
2012 - $13.03
2013 - $731.75
2014 - $313.43
2015 - $429.89
2016 - $960.63
2017 - $12,897.70
2018 - $3,866.54
2019 - $7,294.44
2020 - $24,841.57
2021 - $47,169.37
2022 - $16,603.67
2023 - $42,611.83 (Present)

>>> https://twitter.com/Swan/status/1741420205606113346?t=9mub05jS-Al_TYQ9VYTQww&s=19

It is quite likely that we could be following quite few similar principles, yet still end up with variations on our outcomes based on some simple differences - and even having a plan and then diverging from it from time to time can cause divergent results, because sometimes, we might know or discover that we might have some unwritten rule that maybe if the price moves up at a certain speed or if some set of quasi-unexpected events end up playing out, then we have to change the execution of our plan based on that specific set of happenings... and we might not know in advance exactly what might end up causing us to tweak our plan execution prior to the events happening.

You might consider that I am contradicting myself to some extent because part of the reason that I incrementally sell the amounts that I sell which is somewhere in the ballpark of 5-10% for every BTC price doubling (even though my own increments are much smaller and so the amounts are smaller), is based on an expectation that the worst (or would we say the best) case scenario would be that the price ends up shooting up to $200k or $500k without any correction for me to be able to buy back.. so I already assume that possibility.. it is built into the assumptions of extreme scenarios to the upside that could happen.

Of course we can consider various downside scenarios too, in order to be realistic, but at the same time, if we are investing into bitcoin, we likely already subscribe to it having an investment thesis based on various possible upside scenarios that ultimately keep the upward slope (whether the 200-week moving average or some other slope) continuing to go up even if there may well be variance in the price and even variance in how steep or shallow the upward slope might play out.

At the same time, we can conclude that it is almost inevitable that the BTC spot price is not going to go straight up, even if the base assumption (of the worse case scenario) would include that the BTC spot price goes straight up, so then it just becomes a matter of degree regarding when and/or how much any corrections might end up happening along the way, and buy backs can be structured in ways that don't require much of a correction to buy back or that they could require considerably large corrections before buy backs are triggered or it could be structured somewhere between such extremes.  

The chart that I created, which fillippone links through google spreadsheets represents a way to 1) customize how much you want the BTC price to go up prior to raking and then 2) how much, if any, you want to dedicate for buying back, and if so 3) how extreme do you need the BTC price to correct before you buy back and finally 4) what probability do you assign to your being able to buy back at the price drop points that you had established.  

Once you plug your numbers into the chart, then of course, if you are striving to carry out the practice of your theory, you would have to be ready, wiling and able to place buy back orders at the prices that you had theorized within your plan... which yeah, you could have second thoughts along the way at any point, including even tweaking your own execution that might not end up matching with your original plan.. which is both a good and bad thing.  It is good because you are executing your own free will and discretion, and it is bad because the execution of your plan might end up not really following through as plan, unless you maybe had programmed it in advance like a bot.... and then you have to make sure that you did not make any mistakes in your programing.


Fair enough on that. .. but really if you think about it... let's just imagine 20 BTC starting out with $5k invested in 2015... I am sorry I cannot resist, even though you might have said that your 20 coins cost you $300 in 2015.. but still.. we can still hypothenisize.. a starting price of $250.. just for funzies.... and in the whole scheme of things does it really matter if your 20 coins cost you $5k, $6k or even if they might have ended up costing you $10k or even $20k?.. it would just take away a few of the compounding events.. but in the whole scheme of things would likely not make big differences for having several compounding events already under your belt, whether 9, 10 or 11 of them by the time the BTC price were to reach $500k... So we can see how it might play out for someone with 9-11 compounding events to wait to cash out some of their BTC.

1) $250 to $500     = $10k

2) $500 to $1,000     = $20k

3) $1,000 to $2,000     = $40k

4) $2,000 to $4,000     = $80k

5) $4,000 to $8,000     = $160k

6) $8,000 to $16,000     = $320k

7) $16,000 to $32,000     = $640k

8 ) $32,000 to $64,000     = $1.28 million

9) $64,000 to $128,000     = $2.56 million

10) $128,000 to $256,000     = $5.12 million

11) $256,000 to $512,000     = $10.24 million   (20 BTC) (otherwise if spending 20% reduced to about $8.192 million with a remaining stash of 16 BTC)

12) $512,000 to $1.24 million     = $20.48 million (20 BTC) (otherwise if spending 20% reduced to about $15.872 million with a remaining stash of 12.8 BTC)

13) $1.24 million to $2.48 million     = $40.96 million  (20 BTC) (otherwise if spending 20% reduced to about $25.3952 million with a remaining stash of 10.24 BTC)

So think about it, if you get to $500k, then you have been through 11 doublings of the price, and if your stingy little BTC HODLer hands (style) finally get pried open a wee bit, you have already gotten a lot of compounding value off of that $5k investment.

So, even if you go a bit more aggressive on the side of your stated range and you cash out 20% at $500k-ish that would be 4 BTC sold from your stash, and leaving you with only 16 BTC remaining, and you would get right around $2 million for that...

so let's say that you end up devolving into fiat/consumption loving

and so you choose to spend another 20% at $1 million and that would be 3.2 BTC sold from your stash, and leaving you with only 12.8 BTC, and you would get right around $3.2 million for that second raking...

and let's say that you get on a roll, and you cannot stop yourself from spending fiat.. call it mid-life crisis or whatever,

so at $2 million, you decide to spend another 20% and that would be 2.56 BTC sold from your stash, and leaving you with only 10.24 BTC, and you would get right around $5.12 million for that...

So yeah if the BTC price reaches $2 million, then there could be scenarios in which between $500k, and $2 million, you end up shaving off around 9.76 BTC from your stash and getting $10.32 million for that, but your networth is still would end up going up in that kind of a shaving off trajectory...

But yeah, we cannot guarantee that BTC prices will stay up, and you may or may not decide to buy back any of those sold BTC if the BTC price were to drop back to $350k, $500k, $750k, $1.2 million or whatever.

And maybe you could choose any variation of the selling practices, such as selling 20% at $500k, but then ONLY selling 10% at $1 million and another 10% at $2 million, or you could just choose something closer to what I had been doing, which would be selling a lower amount, such as 10% at each of the three price points.. not that you would want to gravitate towards anything close to copy-catting yours truly.. .hahahahahaha

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Happy new year WO!

2024 will be very prosperous for us all.

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happy new year to the whole wo-gang and all others🎆🥂🎇

Have fun mate,
And Happy New Year to the rest of the WO Gang.
From my secret mountain hut, finally under the snow (which is an always more difficult view in this part of the Alps).

Waiting for the 2024, and finally my chance to win my bet with Proudhon (is he still around?)

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 ...and a lot of paternity suits

Happy New Years, everyone!

2024 is going to be the year we will be observing 100k Bitcoin together!

Until then, stay safe, happy and healthy! Cheers!🥂

Enjoy your full moon parties, wherever you are.

Happy New Year everybody.


Cheers to $100,000+ BTC in 2024.

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LedgerX (this company has nothing to do with the hardware wallet) is changing their working hours to "banker's hours" of 9:30am to 4pm, US Eastern time.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/18uepkx/another_reason_to_own_straight_bitcoin_ledgerx/

I guess they expect that most of their business would now (post ETF approval) come from the Wall Street entities.

For those outside of US-ledgerx is pretty much the only outfit where you can trade bitcoin options in US.
For the ROW, Deribit and others are available on a 24/7 basis, I assume.

For nifty traders this means a lot of profitable gaps in both directions (some would be for the ETFs as well, mind you).
When the underlying trades 24/7, but some derivative instrument (options and/or ETFs) trades only 6.5hr (27% of the time), large gaps are inevitable.

are you waiting for 3hours in airport?
I have the solution...



source.

Chill brah,  

Happy New Year in Sky.

@xhomerx10 Very well presented, I apologize for misunderstanding the point.


thanks @JayJuanGee say my new name I like this . 

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Happy New Year from Australia; looking forward to sharing a kick ass 2024 with y'all!

Let's get it boys!