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https://cryptopotato.com/ecbs-christine-lagarde-says-her-son-lost-big-time-in-crypto/

ECB’s Christine Lagarde Says Her Son Lost Big Time In Crypto


Well, i guess he didn't ever visit this thread (or forum), then...
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https://cryptopotato.com/ecbs-christine-lagarde-says-her-son-lost-big-time-in-crypto/

ECB’s Christine Lagarde Says Her Son Lost Big Time In Crypto

  The anti-crypto President successfully turned her son against digital assets after he lost 60% of his crypto investment.

  Christine Lagarde – president of the European Central Bank (ECB) said her son lost “almost all” of his investment in crypto despite her repeated warnings not to touch the asset class.

  Due to the losses, she claims her son has now “reluctantly accepted” that she was right.

The Lagarde Family’s Crypto Investments
 
 Lagarde discussed her son’s poor crypto journey at a town hall with students in Frankfurt on Friday.

 
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“He ignored me royally, which is his privilege,” she said, according to Reuters. “And he lost almost all the money that he had invested.”

 The president has long railed against cryptocurrencies, insisting that Bitcoin is not money, but rather a “highly speculative asset” that is popular among criminals for money laundering.

While open to letting investors buy what they like, she advocates for strong regulations encouraging consumer protection in crypto while mitigating its use in terrorist financing. When it comes to central banks possibly owning Bitcoin, she’s called it “out of the question.”

Yet in May 2022, Lagarde revealed that one of her two sons was diversified into crypto, while still maintaining that crypto assets were “worth nothing” and “based on nothing.” Bitcoin traded for $29,100 at the time, shortly following the collapse of algorithmic stablecoin protocol Terra which tanked crypto markets across the board.

The president has two sons, both of whom are in their mid-30s, though she didn’t reveal which one was the crypto investor.

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“It wasn’t a lot but he lost it all, he lost about 60% of it,” she said. “So when I then had another talk with him about it, he reluctantly accepted that I was right.”

 

 Sounds like a self-fulfilling prophecy or a made up story.  I wonder what she told him to invest in 2022 instead... Shopify? lol
 Hey, Christine Lagarde's son!  Look!



 It's never too late Smiley
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What the hell is this?
An AI generated version of Chartbuddy?

Don't know whether to like it or be afraid of it.
"Those robots are taking our jobs!" - South Park
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I don't think I'm a bot, but I guess THEY would program me to say that. 

10 earn dirty fiat
20 stack sats
30 hodl
40 goto 10

Throw in some pleasure sub routines and find your joy!
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Today Bitcoin reached $38425 in value and I'm pretty sure that in just a matter of days it will go to $39k then $40k and I'm still pretty sure that Bitcoin has potential to reach $50k before 2024. At least those who have bought their Bitcoin at $19k during the dip are at around 100% profit already. I know that most of those haven't bought all of their Bitcoin at $19k because of the DCA strategy but I'm pretty sure that they are also at profit. Hold your Bitcoin, it's just the beginning!
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Thanksgiving day $16k #Bitcoin in 2022 vs $37k Bitcoin in 2023 https://t.co/jNquwux9yl

Thats more than 200% rise!!

Hoping to see btc go 70k + in 2024!!

Not hugely invested in btc right now but i think if it hits the 40k mark this year thats a good entry point for me

so you rather buy at 40k+ than 37-38k?

why not get at 37 then 38 39 and 40
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Thanksgiving day $16k #Bitcoin in 2022 vs $37k Bitcoin in 2023 https://t.co/jNquwux9yl

Thats more than 200% rise!!

Hoping to see btc go 70k + in 2024!!

Not hugely invested in btc right now but i think if it hits the 40k mark this year thats a good entry point for me

 So, ah...  200% rise starting at $16k on any other day would give you $48k but I get it, you're full of turkey and stuffing so it's Thanksgiving math.  Amen.

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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
Although I trust WO and vroom.
But did we do it?

WO or at least the chopper bitcoin price is based on bitstamp

Yup that's why I went to bitstamp and took screen shot from bitstmap.net
try candlestick chart Smiley
Sweet... $38,078


Chopper no doesn't lie.  Go figure!

Woke up for a piss and rehydration to see I just missed seeing an AYH.

Still shy of $38k though.

Go Bitcoin go,
I've been going through replies made on this thread and i could see some Abbv.
like

AYH,ATH

I'm trying to wrap my head around it but all that kept ringing was

All Year High, All Time High

I'm  not sure if this is correct though  Cheesy i need to clear my thoughts

Probably you need a bat slappening.

That's a weird statement, why would I change my position, unless it is an accident? or are thinking about some kind of force.
No accident, it will eventually embed itself. Don’t worry, you won’t remember shit.

Sounds like fun - I am looking forward to it.

I like to think of it as a necessary evil.

Protip:
 You could look in the mirror if you are hoping to witness a hyperbolic evil wannabe.

Idiocracy has no boundaries, and that includes me as well.

You can say that again.
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Thanksgiving day $16k #Bitcoin in 2022 vs $37k Bitcoin in 2023 https://t.co/jNquwux9yl

Thats more than 200% rise!!

Hoping to see btc go 70k + in 2024!!

Not hugely invested in btc right now but i think if it hits the 40k mark this year thats a good entry point for me
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Chugging along happily. Will we repeat last ATH, at least in the weaker AYH version? We'll know soon.
legendary
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Woke up for a piss and rehydration to see I just missed seeing an AYH.

Still shy of $38k though.

Go Bitcoin go,

I've been going through replies made on this thread and i could see some Abbv.
like

AYH,ATH

I'm trying to wrap my head around it but all that kept ringing was

All Year High, All Time High

I'm  not sure if this is correct though  Cheesy i need to clear my thoughts



correct
legendary
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
Happy Thanksgiving to those who celebrate it.

Would be nice if we could finally break 38k during the holiday period & stay over. It seems a but of a bitch to break atm.

I am already past 38k I am looking to be over 40k 🔜

edit : 40k is my next 1% sale
Phil...listen..I suggest not doing these 1% sales at the verge of a bull market, unless you HAVE to.
Peeps were telling this to you before: in 2015-2016, then in 2020-2021 (maybe re shitcoins) and you were arguing that it is all good...it is difficult to move you from that "laddering" opinion that both you and @jjg espouse.
Sometimes we all are acting against the better judgement: I sold stuff (not bitcoin) in the early winter of 2020-2021 just before alts and bitcoin went vertical for 3-4 mo. For what: to do the roof replacement.
Should I waited a bit considering all that I knew at the time? Absolutely, but the idea of a new roof already "infected" my mind, so...a bit less cap gains.
I get it that "sitting tight" as Jesse Livermore was calling it, is difficult, but going backwards, it's the BEST play in the last 20 years in AAPL and AMZN, the best play in NVDA in the last 10, best play in GOOGL since the IPO, best play in MSFT since many decades ago. Eventually, you would not have to sell btc, but would borrow a bit against it, hence NO cap gains.
I stand behind my approach.. it works quite well so long as you have overly accumulated... so it can take guys a while before they get to "overaccumulation" status.  I doubt that I need to go through any description and/or attempt to justify my situation again... except to just suggest that my way of dealing with bitcoin does not rely upon figuring out price direction.

There could be some guys who even overly accumulated in the last year or two, and surely Phillip is in a different position regarding Age and surely I don't agree with him on severl things, especially when he was selling BTC around $20k in mid-to-late 2022 and I was surely buying that whole time and even overly buying at that time too... had to go outside of my usual comfort zone of even having to buy more because the price dropped below any expectations and stayed there in those greater than expected low areas for quite some time, too.. if you had not noticed.

I feel that I need to supplement my earlier post because there are both questions of potential over-investment, but there can be other reasons to have sell ladders on the way up, and I am not even sure if I would be defending Philip in this situation because he seems to make trade-offs that are different from the ones that I make, and it seems to me that he is frequently tweaking his approach based on price predictions rather than just letting the BTC price come to him, and so in that regard, I think that he may well not be as overallocated into BTC as he should be (which would less justify making sells on the way up), but there are also ways to incorporate sufficient restraints that he is not playing around too much with the BTC price. Another thing that surely he has is the age factor, and even though he had made statements about working until he is 72 or something like that (which surely is only 5 years from now), which gets me to consider that he might NOT be close enough to fuck you status...even though  surely when people reach those kinds of upper 60s ages, there can likely be needs to be more into cash than younger people.

Maybe we could hypothesize a person like Phillip (let's call him HypoPhil), and sure the hypothetical might not get the facts right exactly but still we could put together a package to make it seem more realistic also in terms of how a sell on the way up ladder might work.

Let's say that HypoPhil has right around $1 million in quasi-liquid assets that also includes his BTC, and so $1 million would constitute his total investment portfolio, so in some sense he is around 50% towards getting to entry-level fuck you status.

it is not necessarily easy to figure out how to value each of the assets in terms of their liquidity, and so let's go over some of the potentially BIGGER assets:
1) real estate and/or residence (maybe value the equity at around 35% of its value).. $150k
2) 401K or related - (let's say 70% liquid based on some time restrictions)  $300k
3) other stocks, bonds, treasure bonds, paper commodities etc    (let's say 80%-90% liquid)  $50k
4) businesses such as mining business - shared with partners (maybe value the equity at around 35% of its value).. $150k
5) other potential inheritance (not yet realized so only 10% of value)  $20k
6) various valuable personal property, such as cars, computers, electronics, TVS, jewelry, furniture & appliances, collectables, other items (not very liquid - 20%  of value) $30k
7) bitcoin - let's say he owns around 10 of them (close to 100% liquid - maybe should be measured in terms of 200-week moving average to be safer   $290k.

HypoPhil could say that he is going to sell 1% of his BTC for every 10% that the BTC price rises, which could be the equivalent of selling right around 5% for every time that the BTC price goes up by 50%, and he is going to be just fine... Let's say that HypoPhil had been in BTC for a while and maybe he already did some sales at other prices, but if he had 10 BTC at $40k, then surely he would be able to sustain something like that.



From the table, we can see that every time the BTC price goes up 50%, then HypoPhil sells 5% of his stash, and by the time the BTC price reaches $455,625, he still has 7.3556 BTC which is more than 73% of his original BTC stash, and yeah knowing HypoPhil, he is not going to be able to resist, so there will be times that he is going to likely sell more of his BTC, but that is not a problem, because with the rate of 1% per 10% rise or 5% per 50% rise or 10% per doubling, there is still going to be a lot of compounding of the value... so if he decides to sell more at higher prices, then he would have room to work with, even though we likely realize with HypoPhil, he is a gambler, so he is going to overdo it at various times and sell into his principle rather than merely selling profits.

Even if HypoPhil might not have 10BTC, and he already fucked up at various points by buying USG TBills or whatever they are called, and let's say that he ONLY has 5 BTC, He can still be doing ok with that, even though surely it is better to have 10 BTC than 5 BTC, especially if someone, even elderly like HypoPhil, is going to start a laddering on the way up plan.  



I guess part of my point is that 1% per 10% rise is very sustainable, and you can imagine if the BTC price doubles, and if you are merely selling 10% of your holdings, you have another 40% that is able to compound, so you could sell up to 50% and ONLY be taking profits, but if you take all the profits, there is nothing compounding, and so if you think about 100% appreciation, I would be careful even going above 25%, even though it is still within reasonable and still allowing a decent amount of the profits to compound, but a mere 10% per doubling, or 1% per 10% rise, which seems to be something in the ballpark of what real Phil seems to be describing himself as doing  (to the extent that you can believe that he can restrain himself and he is not buying Tbills on the side), those are all quite sustainable amounts of selling, even if some of us might be thinking that the BTC price has decently good chances of topping this cycle somewhere between $200 and $800k.. and surely lesser possibilities to overshoot that range too.
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I'm  not sure if this is correct though 

That is correct.
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Phil...listen..I suggest not doing these 1% sales at the verge of a bull market, unless you HAVE to.

Pfff, let him be philip, he’s totally deranged anyways, so …

Thinking further, I’d rather he sold all his corn right now, and then fucked off to Mars.



Supercycle discussion...it did not happen in 2021, probably due to FTX, overleverage, etc.
Maybe this cycle and the next one would merge into one?

No, there will be no super-cycle, well, perhaps only if the Great Bitcoin Conspiracy comes true.

| Wheels bouncing like a trampoline
Bitcoin’s volatile cycle.



It definitely was FTX and their fraud of keeping people from buying BTC to dump into shitcoins that kept Bitcoin’s price depressed during the last cycle.

The sheep definitely like to think so!


Will this cycle make up for it and put us back on track or did FTX set us back 4 years.

“On track” is max $150k & whereabouts for this cycle.


I guess we’ll see if the market only goes up to $150,000 or if it makes up for the last cycle and shoots up over half a mil…

Hahahahahaha, OK, you’re allowed to your opinion. Sort of. Grin



I had no funds on Bittrex, however. Still, an exchange less to sell some of my corn near next ATH  Angry

Shit man, seems everyone is getting kicked out of exchanges, right? Riiight? Riiiiiight?



There is no way I can believe this a true Bitcoiner's error.

It’s not, happy to agree here.



It was BinanceUS, and it was the BTC USDT pair..

Of course it was. Tongue


That's a weird statement, why would I change my position, unless it is an accident? or are thinking about some kind of force.

No accident, it will eventually embed itself. Don’t worry, you won’t remember shit.


You seem to enjoy my interactions.  Please don't stop anytime soon.

I like to think of it as a necessary evil.
Now kindly, please and forever,





It is artificially scarce and causes all sorts of problems for the Real working People

Go with the flow my friend, and take advantage of the jet-stream, regardless.
This is how we fight - you can’t fight a Kalashnikov with a slingshot, can you?


People love dogs and frogs a little too much who use cryptocurrencies.

Idiocracy has no boundaries, and that includes me as well.



Anyway, guys I get it. How does sniffing my ass work for you?
Please be aware that I’m aware when that happens. Gif’s start breaking up on a private browser - out of nowhere. Could be Hueristic or suchmoon, but my money [#just.saying] is on BlackHatCoiner, who just left puberty and started to grow hair on his balls. Too bad Brave doesn’t do btctlk.

Isn’t that illegal? Asking for a friend of course.
#Greek.cybercrime.devision



Exposed: The Hidden Agenda behind the UK Government’s very real Chemtrail Operations

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Mark explained that many years ago, he had a first officer that spoke to him about chemtrails.  At the time Mark completely dismissed it saying it was “utter nonsense, they would never do that.”  And he never gave it another thought until about three years ago.

#me.too
#not.anymore


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Mark also explained that as far as the people who are involved in chemtrail programmes are concerned, there is “intellectual dishonesty.” Intellectual dishonesty is a term used to describe intentionally committed fallacies in debates and reasoning.

Fuck no, too polite - genocide via poisoning - Earth’s air, humans, and resources sounds more appropriate.
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