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Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 14651. (Read 26686394 times)

legendary
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https://www.businessinsider.com.au/bitcoin-futures-markets-unusual-behaviour-2018-2
Goldman Sachs has spotted an odd way you could make money trading Bitcoin futures
“With no large institutions operating across exchanges, there is likely an insufficient scale of arbitrage to drive spreads out of the market.”

Goldman are beginning to get on my tits.

Sure, these are hardly nice guys.  But... My 2 Satoshis...

So they arb a gap between long and short-term futures?  It makes them money (short term), but the futures are cash settled, so no BTC are really involved.   They wouldn't be open on this if they really thought it was a 'big play' they would just do it.   

It doesn't mean they're affecting the market or price - and the futures market still really isn't large enough to affect the price massively around the world. Since volumes do not allow spreading risk for market raids by playing the market via futures at the same time as manipulating it.  This of course comes with the caveat: 'yet'.

Also they can't put their client money into the market just like that, it's too risky and probably off-limits for many, many reasons (regulatory and otherwise). 

Eventually futures markets could end up being the tail wagging the dog.  It will come, but so far, it's not the case.
legendary
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Self made HODLER ✓

Bitstamp does have chained orders. You should play a bit with it as it could automate a bit more your trading. I don't use bots either, that would be too much automation for me and my smallish trading. This is just for setting an equal higher limit sell order right after the buy order has been filled... and viceversa. But it only does it one time, after the second order is executed (what I denominate a "combo" in lack of a better term) you would need to manually insert a new one (or if you are "live" substitute the standing second order for a chained one).

In bitstamp you just have to go put a limit order as you usually do and then you have a small link that says "advanced" and when clicked you can set at which price the contrarian order will be put AFTER the first one gets filled.

For me it is a VERY useful feature. YMMV.

Yep, I use it a lot, saves me watching all night to see if an order has been filled, before putting in the corresponding order.

Been a boon with this 'ball bouncing down stairs' action.   Helped me to scoop up small wins, which I have then used to hoover up more coin on the way down.   Overall stash is down in value of course - but for getting more coin in a downtrend, it's been useful.  I just wish you could set the corresponding buy or sell for a different amount of coin (as well as price).

Yeah, the good thing about this type of trading is that you don't really need to know the direction of the price, just play the very short term volatility.

What would be even greater than being able to change the amount would be being able to do longer chains of conditional orders. The perfect tool for the scalper... but I guess that's what bots are for.

sr. member
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https://www.businessinsider.com.au/bitcoin-futures-markets-unusual-behaviour-2018-2
Goldman Sachs has spotted an odd way you could make money trading Bitcoin futures
“With no large institutions operating across exchanges, there is likely an insufficient scale of arbitrage to drive spreads out of the market.”

Goldman are beginning to get on my tits.
Regulators are not enough for our market. They will break teeth before what that is made.  Cheesy
hero member
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I am expecting a decline in the fact that there is a kind of waiting delor. I think that Bitcoin has the possibility of going uphill afterwards. Now, let's see how much cash we have left.


legendary
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
^^ linky https://youtu.be/zOViAFHNZm4?t=25m5s
edit better links needed
https://twitter.com/BTC4USD/status/961682588518834176

@BTC4USD
24m24 minutes ago

I just rekt @rogerkver on Infowars in front of millions

thread

bcash are shills for blocktream and segwit

how to spot a bcash shill, they do not say bcash

great point..


hahahahahaha

they refuse to say bcash... dumb fucks!!!!

They do not even realize that bcash is a great name, but instead they are so short-sightedly focused on misleading and fraud that they cannot recognize actual value.  Again... dumb fucks.
legendary
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Be a bank
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/bitcoin-futures-markets-unusual-behaviour-2018-2
Goldman Sachs has spotted an odd way you could make money trading Bitcoin futures
“With no large institutions operating across exchanges, there is likely an insufficient scale of arbitrage to drive spreads out of the market.”

Goldman are beginning to get on my tits.
legendary
Activity: 2604
Merit: 1748

Where is the call in part? Also..we need to get Roger on record more often..I mean..just look at him..please let him speak out more for bch lol.


such terrible lies and manipulation.
the call in part is still in this live stream https://youtu.be/gPJ0Nhfv_ZE about 1 hr ago
doubtless better edits are incoming

From the press release read out by the host:

Roger Ver:
'was the first person in the world to have invested in Bitcoin'
'Single handedly invested in the first generation of Bitcoin businesses'

Fun accidental (Freudian slip?) by Ver:

'Craig Satoshi'  

Oh, and according to Ver, Blockstream is run by the leader of the Bilderberg Group, which is actively preventing Bitcoin being used as money.

Didn't he used to be 'Bitcoin Jesus'?

This is a great argument for freedom of speech - he certainly hangs himself.  I cringed.
legendary
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Unrelated (mostly), but Dow is down 1033 900 poins back to the same 24K it bounced from on Monday.
at closing.
Ahem.

Jim Cramer talks about complete morons that "blew up the market"
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/jim-cramer-blames-a-group-of-complete-morons-for-blowing-up-the-market-2018-02-08

I told ya, messing around with bitcoin bull did them no good.
sr. member
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Recently there is a lot of talk about the stock market and communication with btc. Probably it became already fashionable to compare or look for regularities in everything, before it was gold. And now all this looks as a new round in the history of btc. It seems to me we come to new level and it is already obvious. So even the news background changes recently for the better. We expect further.
legendary
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Smile
^^ linky https://youtu.be/zOViAFHNZm4?t=25m5s
edit better links needed
https://twitter.com/BTC4USD/status/961682588518834176

@BTC4USD
24m24 minutes ago

I just rekt @rogerkver on Infowars in front of millions

thread

bcash are shills for blocktream and segwit

how to spot a bcash shill, they do not say bcash

legendary
Activity: 1652
Merit: 4393
Be a bank

Where is the call in part? Also..we need to get Roger on record more often..I mean..just look at him..please let him speak out more for bch lol.


such terrible lies and manipulation.
the call in part is still in this live stream https://youtu.be/gPJ0Nhfv_ZE about 1 hr ago
doubtless better edits are incoming
legendary
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a Cray can run an endless loop in under 4 hours
legendary
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what you can't see from that shot: there's an Audi 9 inches behind and a BMW has just raced past
Both of those automotive manufactures can only drool over the publicity coup that happened from those images. What is not talked about and I dont want to harp on to much is the risk taken by Elon in 1)launching a vehicle at all. 2)launching right before the Q4 earnings report. If the launch had been unsuccessful I can only imagine what the stock price would have done not only for SpaceX but for Tesla.


https://twitter.com/theonevortex/status/961684184862400512

The Bcash Infowars phone in didn't go too good according to this.

^^ linky https://youtu.be/zOViAFHNZm4?t=25m5s

https://twitter.com/BTC4USD/status/961682588518834176

@BTC4USD
24m24 minutes ago

I just rekt @rogerkver on Infowars in front of millions

thread

Where is the call in part? Also..we need to get Roger on record more often..I mean..just look at him..please let him speak out more for bch lol.

legendary
Activity: 1652
Merit: 4393
Be a bank
 ^^ linky https://youtu.be/zOViAFHNZm4?t=25m5s
edit better links needed
https://twitter.com/BTC4USD/status/961682588518834176

@BTC4USD
24m24 minutes ago

I just rekt @rogerkver on Infowars in front of millions

thread
legendary
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Merit: 3056
Welt Am Draht
https://twitter.com/theonevortex/status/961684184862400512

The Bcash Infowars phone in didn't go too good according to this.
legendary
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Merit: 4393
Be a bank
Breaking 24777$ prediction game      FINAL LIST        

15/02/2018 starmman

Just a week to go before the price hits $24777 LOL

Yeah but fk the moon, you are already on your way to Mars!


what you can't see from that shot: there's an Audi 9 inches behind and a BMW has just raced past
copper member
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Clueless!
BCASH pump&dump beginning!
Ready to make money! Cool

Why do I hate these bcash idiots so much?


Bitcoin Cash.....they may be a bit freaked out ...litecoin is supposedly launching LitePay this week and in a few months LitePal (think that is the in-house name)

so yeah, if you are going for quick transactions a lot of folk will use litecoin THAT ARE BIG WHALES ON BITCOIN ... simply because they hate the bcash folk so much

or whatever, what do I know

but that may be why the BCH push this week as well...if that really pans out to anything


also Litecoin just released its next protocol RC test ..it supposedly will come out at the end of the month...it will drop fees from 0.1 LTC to 0.0001 ltc i think it is ...ie the

Litepay launch etc

interesting times

meanwhile bitcoin core..sits on the balcony and fiddles while Rome burns...so to speak Sad



legendary
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Degenerate bull hatter & Bitcoin monotheist
Looks like a moderate hash rate attack right now on Bitcoin. Bitmain probably switching to Bcash to drive the pump.

Nice to see this coordinated with a little social media campaign.

Let’s see how long they can last for.  I’m going to enjoy watching the dump part of the pump.

So far Badger doesn’t give a shit.

I guess they had to do something because everyone had forgotten about Bcash.
legendary
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Degenerate bull hatter & Bitcoin monotheist
So refreshing to hear the MSM using the word 'plunge' in reference to something other than the Bitcoin market.  Grin

Buses in South America don’t crash, they only plunge.
legendary
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So refreshing to hear the MSM using the word 'plunge' in reference to something other than the Bitcoin market.  Grin

http://money.cnn.com/2018/02/08/investing/dow-jones-stock-market/index.html
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