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Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 15113. (Read 26712687 times)

newbie
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I think the FUD on BTC holders is at an all time high right now.
Noobs on all reddits / telegram mock BTC holders and show off their portfolios full of shitcoin gains.
Will this shitshow ever end?
The FUD is starting to get to me...

Are you feeling the same psychological FUD?
sr. member
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I can say this. I do believe, notwithstanding any feelings we may have about the current price action, that we are engaged in an endeavour of great advantage and historical significance.

Carry on Smiley
legendary
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We choose to go to the moon
January 2017 sure had some moments.

I don't read charts, but I do enjoy looking at them for hours and hours. It's like looking at fire, or maybe an ocean.

https://bitcoincharts.com/charts/bitstampUSD#rg90zigHourlyzczsg2017-01-01zeg2017-01-31ztgSzm1g10zm2g25zv
sr. member
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Is there anyone here who can read charts?

If so can they tell me what happened on January 9, 2017?

And can they tell me what happened on January 10, 2017?

I studied charting at the feet of some of the great masters, and can predict the future well in advance. Unfortunately, not moments ago, I allowed myself to be persuaded to write-off the whole month of January.
legendary
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Degenerate bull hatter & Bitcoin monotheist
Is there anyone here who can read charts?

If so can they tell me what happened on January 9, 2017?

And can they tell me what happened on January 10, 2017?
legendary
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We choose to go to the moon
WTF bitcoin selling off again. Just go up you bastard, it's the future for christs sake.

It helps if you just mentally write January off, and prepare for epic February action.
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"Be Your Own Bank"
ETH regular up, and now BTC...

legendary
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Cлaвa Укpaїнi!
And, yea, I'm grumpy today, I'm out of milk for my breakfast.
Yes I eat breakfast while reading up on this thread.
Anything else you want to know?

Haha, you´re to much. Try bacon with eggs for a change. Just once. I mean, we have to die sooner or later anyway . . .  Smiley

And i read somewhere: eggs are not as bad after all. They are just small chicken.





Yes they are, and I do like to devour the unborn for breakfast every now and then, bur are you saying that I can't have milk with my bacon and eggs?
legendary
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Be a bank
legendary
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Never selling
WTF bitcoin selling off again. Just go up you bastard, it's the future for christs sake.
sr. member
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Segwit. Bech32. MAST. Signature aggregation. Key aggregation. Batch validation. Covenants. CT & bullet proofs. Dandelion. Neutrino. Tx compression. Set reconciliation for tx relay. Block template delta compression. NODE_NETWORK_LIMITED. UTXO commitments. TXO commitments. TXO bitfields. Rolling UTXO set hashes. Client-side validation. Peer encryption & auth. Fraud proofs. Scriptless atomic swaps. Zerolink/tumblebit. [Cut:] layer 2, HF rsrch, bip 8. (@rusty_twit)
and a paaartridge in a pear tree




That's exactly what I'm talking about, that just made my brain hurt, without telling me how to use it.

A few observations about the graphic.

The picture of the network is highly distorted, showing only 3 end users! when really theres hundred of thousands or millions potentially. HIghly connected hubs will be numbered in the hundreds (I feel I'm being generous with that number). That is a highly centralised network, nothing like the depiction.

I doubt many people use a hot wallet for everyday spending. The use case in which people have a spending wallet is already defunct. Who spends bitcoin when the fees are more than the cost of the purchase, you don't spend it.

The promise of low fees on LN was also made onchain in the early days. When I first used bitcoin most people didnt even put a fee. I suspect fees will not be low on LN, only lower than onchain fees.

 

When the internet appeared I was sure it would fail because I could not imaging a scenario where companies would pay to run expensive undersea cables that keep up with the demand (and all the other infrastructure) - and let me use it for 'free'. Somehow it works. This time I'm am keeping an open mind. There is enough money on the table so I'm sure something workable will emerge.
legendary
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Segwit. Bech32. MAST. Signature aggregation. Key aggregation. Batch validation. Covenants. CT & bullet proofs. Dandelion. Neutrino. Tx compression. Set reconciliation for tx relay. Block template delta compression. NODE_NETWORK_LIMITED. UTXO commitments. TXO commitments. TXO bitfields. Rolling UTXO set hashes. Client-side validation. Peer encryption & auth. Fraud proofs. Scriptless atomic swaps. Zerolink/tumblebit. [Cut:] layer 2, HF rsrch, bip 8. (@rusty_twit)
and a paaartridge in a pear tree




That's exactly what I'm talking about, that just made my brain hurt, without telling me how to use it.

A few observations about the graphic.

The picture of the network is highly distorted, showing only 3 end users! when really theres hundred of thousands or millions potentially. HIghly connected hubs will be numbered in the hundreds (I feel I'm being generous with that number). That is a highly centralised network, nothing like the depiction.

I doubt many people use a hot wallet for everyday spending. The use case in which people have a spending wallet is already defunct. Who spends bitcoin when the fees are more than the cost of the purchase, you don't spend it.

The promise of low fees on LN was also made onchain in the early days. When I first used bitcoin most people didnt even put a fee. I suspect fees will not be low on LN, only lower than onchain fees.

 
legendary
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Cлaвa Укpaїнi!
Segwit. Bech32. MAST. Signature aggregation. Key aggregation. Batch validation. Covenants. CT & bullet proofs. Dandelion. Neutrino. Tx compression. Set reconciliation for tx relay. Block template delta compression. NODE_NETWORK_LIMITED. UTXO commitments. TXO commitments. TXO bitfields. Rolling UTXO set hashes. Client-side validation. Peer encryption & auth. Fraud proofs. Scriptless atomic swaps. Zerolink/tumblebit. [Cut:] layer 2, HF rsrch, bip 8. (@rusty_twit)
and a paaartridge in a pear tree


That's exactly what I'm talking about, that just made my brain hurt, without telling me how to use it.
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This is the sign that bitcoin will go to the moon sir? Anybody here can help me to predict the value of bitcoin in the chart? Thanks.
sr. member
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ETH always positive and quite regular   Shocked Shocked



Except when it isn't (like Jun-Dec 2017)
sr. member
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"Be Your Own Bank"
ETH always positive and quite regular   Shocked Shocked


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Deb Rah Von Doom
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I'm not a computer scientist kind of guy and I don't like maths. My strengths lies in other areas of specialization.
I have always tried to do and study things I like, rather then pursuing a traditional career and that have lead me on to many interesting paths, crypto being one of them.

However, when I get a bank card I don't give a rat's ass how it actually works, and the bank doesn't tell me either. They just tell me how to use it. The same goes for just about everything else i buy, the TV salesman doesn't tell me how the TV works, just how to use it et cetera.
But when it comes to crypto it's always the other way around, every thread and info page talks ad nauseam about how it works, and very little about how to use it.
I for example no nothing at all about how to use segwit, and yet segwit have been talked about for ages. And I consider myself fairly intelligent. Just imagine then, when average Joe comes to bitcoin and is told to use segwit to lower fees. That won't tell him anything.
Why can't core make a information page that tells you how to use it? And make sure that page is seen among the noobs, and for that matter oldies like me without a degree in computer science. Why do they and everybody else have to talk non stop about incomprehensible technicalities?
I don't give a fuck about the underlying technology, I want to know how to use it.

And by the way, can you make a segwit paper wallet? And if so how?
That is one of the things that core should tell people if they want adoption.

Why are you so stressed? You can use the CLI in the core client if you want to segwit /s

Seriously they need to fix that asap.

Does anyone know if they intend to build Lightning network support into the Core client GUI?
legendary
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Be a bank
Segwit. Bech32. MAST. Signature aggregation. Key aggregation. Batch validation. Covenants. CT & bullet proofs. Dandelion. Neutrino. Tx compression. Set reconciliation for tx relay. Block template delta compression. NODE_NETWORK_LIMITED. UTXO commitments. TXO commitments. TXO bitfields. Rolling UTXO set hashes. Client-side validation. Peer encryption & auth. Fraud proofs. Scriptless atomic swaps. Zerolink/tumblebit. [Cut:] layer 2, HF rsrch, bip 8. (@rusty_twit)
and a paaartridge in a pear tree
sr. member
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And, yea, I'm grumpy today, I'm out of milk for my breakfast.
Yes I eat breakfast while reading up on this thread.
Anything else you want to know?

Haha, you´re to much. Try bacon with eggs for a change. Just once. I mean, we have to die sooner or later anyway . . .  Smiley

And i read somewhere: eggs are not as bad after all. They are just small chicken.



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