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Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 16098. (Read 26607825 times)

legendary
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The company and others that helped create and promote the cryptocurrency will retain 2 million metronome coins, out of an initial trove of 10 million to be auctioned off in December.

Emphasis mine  Roll Eyes Cheesy
Hmm. Nope, doesn't stink at all.
legendary
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This just in:

"Jeff Garzik, one of a handful of key developers who helped build the underlying software for bitcoin that is known as blockchain, has seen its shortcomings firsthand. So he decided to create a better digital currency.

He’s calling it Metronome..."

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-10-24/bitcoin-pioneer-says-new-coin-to-work-on-multiple-blockchains?utm_content=buffer54373&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

Flabbergasting
Stupidity. Bitcoin is simple and robust and that's why it is worth what it is. It does exactly what it needs to do, and no more. The more complex things get the bigger risk of something going very wrong and the more it will be used to swindle people who don't fully grasp how it works.

Utopian dreamers are why we can't have nice things.

Holy crap, is that what that guy has been working on all this time? So many things wrong with his Metronome premise, I don't even know where to start:

1. Solution looking for a problem that doesn't even exist

2. Atomic swaps/ sidechains would be similar and would work better

3. Would introduce numerous bugs, exploits, and hidden attack vectors

4. Even if the code somehow worked, Jeff obviously doesn't understand mining or game theory. If pre-mined coin then really silly. That coin will be exploited like crazy. That coin would never hold any value.

I'm so glad that Jeff Garzik doesn't work on Bitcoin core anymore... that idea sounds DOA
hero member
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Decentralize everything
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The company and others that helped create and promote the cryptocurrency will retain 2 million metronome coins, out of an initial trove of 10 million to be auctioned off in December.

Emphasis mine  Roll Eyes Cheesy
legendary
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a Cray can run an endless loop in under 4 hours
So BTCGold is more like BTCFail? Who would've guessed Roll Eyes

B2X won't do any better.
With Coinbase's announcements to give their shitty Bizcoin another ticker it is clear that Bitcoin will keep being what it is.
And with Garzik his own shitty ICO no one can really temm that B2X will be relevant in any way!
This two big news from yesterday where the final nail lin the coffin of B2X imo.
However I still believe they will fork just to shake the market and absorb more cheap coins.
After all this nonsense is over I could imagine a rally in december bringing us maybe close to 10k.
Just my 2 two satoshis.

For me bitcoin cash and bitcoin 2x are just assaults on bitcoin. But for some reason I was under the impression that at least bitcoin gold is something "serious". Well, what did I know, I'm new to this game.
legendary
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This just in:

"Jeff Garzik, one of a handful of key developers who helped build the underlying software for bitcoin that is known as blockchain, has seen its shortcomings firsthand. So he decided to create a better digital currency.

He’s calling it Metronome..."

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-10-24/bitcoin-pioneer-says-new-coin-to-work-on-multiple-blockchains?utm_content=buffer54373&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

Flabbergasting

very interesting.

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has seen actively multipled its shortcomings firsthand. So he decided to create a better digital currency.

ftfy
legendary
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So BTCGold is more like BTCFail? Who would've guessed Roll Eyes

B2X won't do any better.
With Coinbase's announcements to give their shitty Bizcoin another ticker it is clear that Bitcoin will continue being the main chain.
And with Garzik doing his own shitty ICO, no one can really tell that B2X will be relevant in any way!
These two big news from yesterday where the final nail in the coffin of B2X imo.
However I still believe they will fork just to shake the market and absorb more cheap coins.
After all this nonsense is over, I could imagine a rally in december bringing us maybe close to 10k.
Just my 2 two satoshis.
legendary
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Can someone explain the hate towards btg?

I don't know much about it, but making it mineable with gpu's should make it more decentralized, or no?

What's so wrong with it?

Thanks!

The way it was described to me recently here is this:
GPU would work for a short period of time until someone manufactures and monopolizes on ASIC machines to control the hash power. In short, that is what we already have.

Anyone Feel free to correct me if I've got that wrong.

It's correct - GPU would work for a while, then we'd have GPU farms instead of ASIC farms: no big difference. However, from what I've read, this particular algorithm is memory-hungry. Now I don't know exactly how hungry it is, but in principle an algorithm that requires, say, 8GB to compute one hash would be very hard to farm. It would equalize hash power in a significant way, at least until RAM prices go down one or more orders of magnitude.

Difficulty with such an algorithm may involve adjusting both computing power (as it is now with SHA256) and memory requirements. By tweaking the "memory-hunger" parameter, it could be made so that adding more GPUs to a farm won't yield significant results. You'd have to upgrade all your GPU chips with more RAM, or configure your farm to make a chip borrow RAM from its neighbor, which would then be made useless. Rather than "one CPU, one vote" it would be "one memory bank, one vote."  Same concept basically, but economically more sensible with the current state of hardware progress.

..and something about a premine (only designed to make the initial devs rich)

On the other hand, premine is the unmistakable hallmark of a scam. So this particular altcoin is a joke/scam/useless anyway.
hero member
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Decentralize everything
So BTCGold is more like BTCFail? Who would've guessed Roll Eyes
legendary
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a Cray can run an endless loop in under 4 hours
the BTG start is a joke. Since months they say that the split will be done at 25th October. And now they say it's already done on 24th October? Their homepage also stopped working. These forkers are all ridiculous.

edit: and they don't even have replay protection yet. they are offering 250 BTG to a dev for implementing it! https://github.com/BTCGPU/BTCGPU/issues/51
newbie
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There are so massive of money flowing in bitcoin, these people (moving so large amount...) are perfectly knowing what they do, if they are putting their money in bitcoin, it will earn more value.

  Bitcoin price today is not lead by the average joe...
legendary
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Imposition of ORder = Escalation of Chaos
All this talk about people & Bitcoin...

Over the years I have dealt with so many people asking about Bitcoin. It's uncanny how exactly alike all their thought processes are:

2013: wtf is this shit, it's a bubble, nerd money, governments will destroy it, it doesn't have any value because it's not regulated/controlled. It's too late to buy now anyway.
2014: told you it was crap nobody cares
2015: *crickets*
2016: I wish I bought Bitcoin a year ago. You are so lucky!! Now it's too late for me.
2017: I wish I bought Bitcoin a year ago. You are so lucky. Now it's too expensive for me. I realize I can buy just a fraction but my ego doesn't allow me to be content with just a fraction of an arbitrary numerical division of the thing. But have you heard about Ethereum? Or Shitcoin xyz? Someone said it's the next Bitcoin and it has been going up and I can actually afford to buy one! *proceeds to not buy anything*
2018: I wish I bought Bitcoin a year ago...

I don't care. I don't preach. All I do is explain the technology and its implications for society to those who show genuine interest. Why should I wish unjust rewards on those who clearly don't deserve them? Bitcoin is a revolutionary technology with a promise of changing society to the better. Because it is a monetary technology, those of us with enough vision to see the potential, risk our own money and enough nerve to hold through the FUD, haters, bear markets, hacks and laughter get rewarded. Simple as that. The guy who laughed it off in 2014 and felt he "missed the boat" in 2017 will end up buying some in 2023 together with his gradma.
full member
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This thread would only be half as fun without you BMB  Grin

but we would all still have pants
Pants are a sign of oppression, a straightjacket for your legs !
sr. member
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I´m definitely gonna make some donations . . . .
Don't. Weakness should not be rewarded or encouraged.

Yeah, but its for me. I feel better then.  Smiley

legendary
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This just in:

"Jeff Garzik, one of a handful of key developers who helped build the underlying software for bitcoin that is known as blockchain, has seen its shortcomings firsthand. So he decided to create a better digital currency.

He’s calling it Metronome..."

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-10-24/bitcoin-pioneer-says-new-coin-to-work-on-multiple-blockchains?utm_content=buffer54373&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

Flabbergasting
Stupidity. Bitcoin is simple and robust and that's why it is worth what it is. It does exactly what it needs to do, and no more. The more complex things get the bigger risk of something going very wrong and the more it will be used to swindle people who don't fully grasp how it works.

Utopian dreamers are why we can't have nice things.
legendary
Activity: 2268
Merit: 1278
I´m definitely gonna make some donations . . . .
Don't. Weakness should not be rewarded or encouraged.
legendary
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This just in:

"Jeff Garzik, one of a handful of key developers who helped build the underlying software for bitcoin that is known as blockchain, has seen its shortcomings firsthand. So he decided to create a better digital currency.

He’s calling it Metronome..."

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-10-24/bitcoin-pioneer-says-new-coin-to-work-on-multiple-blockchains?utm_content=buffer54373&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

Flabbergasting
legendary
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Women vote more uniformly than men, which means the moment women got the vote, women controlled politics. And women always vote for more security at the expense of freedom. Which, as every american knows, means you will get neither.


This explains why there's no women into bitcoin. Bitcoin is all freedom and very risky.

Women's nature is passive. There's no way to change it, despite what hysterical feminists want.



Bugger off, idiot.

There are plenty of LEADING women in BTC including the founder & president of the Digital Chamber of Commerce.

There are women in this thread reading you EMBARASSING YOURSELF right now.

Go crawl back into that cave & come out when you've evolved a few centuries, GEEEEEEZ.
I trade bitcoin with people in person on a very regular basis. I have yet to meet even a single woman, except for a girlfriend who tagged along.

Stereotypes are true about 80% of the time, give or take. They exist for a reason. All those "leading women" are exceptions to the general rule.
sr. member
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I'll send  send the horse some water but there's gotta be a trough to dump it in, no?
In other words...yes, I'm more than happy to send milliBits to friends to get them started,
but they gotta download a wallet 1st and send me the receiving addy.
nope...not happening... (unless I'm missing something)

In my experience people are hopeless. What can you do?

Anecdote. Years ago I sent someone some coin. I had to insist he get himself an address. Long story short, he's an IT guy and he forgot his "wallet code".

My girlfriend is hopelesser than hopeless !

Open a wallet for her, Dude!  I have friends of both genders, (sorry Trans, Pans & Not Sures,) some of each seem hopeless.  I tell them to hold for their kids & grandkids who will figure it out. So far HODLing is working nicely for them.  Wink

I did. With a little Dosh in it. Now she asks me for the Password  Smiley
I think, it has to do with the fact, that she´s blond.

legendary
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Reading all the Bitcoin stories you guys have feel quite similar to mine.
I guess after 5 yrs in Bitcoin land I learned from Fight Club
1st RULE: You do not talk about Bitcoin.
2nd RULE: You DO NOT talk about Bitcoin.
3rd RULE: You buy Bitcoin.
legendary
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I'll send  send the horse some water but there's gotta be a trough to dump it in, no?
In other words...yes, I'm more than happy to send milliBits to friends to get them started,
but they gotta download a wallet 1st and send me the receiving addy.
nope...not happening... (unless I'm missing something)

In my experience people are hopeless. What can you do?

Anecdote. Years ago I sent someone some coin. I had to insist he get himself an address. Long story short, he's an IT guy and he forgot his "wallet code".

My girlfriend is hopelesser than hopeless !

Open a wallet for her, Dude!  I have friends of both genders, (sorry Trans, Pans & Not Sures,) some of each seem hopeless.  I tell them to hold for their kids & grandkids who will figure it out. So far HODLing is working nicely for them.  Wink
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