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legendary
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There's a lot more to gain in terms of consumer (cheap) payments, anonymous payments, smart contracts and more if we are just patient and allow developers to build on top of Segwit.

My point of view, too. I guess it is the point of view of many non-politicized bitcoiners who just want an increase of utility and value, while keeping the strong points: permissionless and trustless, therefore decentralized. Non-inflationary.
sr. member
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I really do not understand why the "core team" has a 2X problem.
Without 2X is not Segwit. Bitcoin has exponential support, so 2X is a good compromise.

Well, they never really agreed to Segwit2x. They implemented Segwit, which had widespread support. The miners and services decided amongst themselves to hard fork 3 months later. Discussions of the 2x hard fork itself aside, I think it's reasonable that both Core and users generally oppose such a timeline.

... ok I understand that they want to create a "market fee" and "birth of side chains" as soon as possible.

The war between Bitcoin and Segwit2x will damage both sides and finally 2X is necessary (only the of time question)

The way I see it, the damage was already done. Maybe not for the same reasons as others think so, though. To me, the fact that BIP148 folks (now NO2X folks) wanted to permanently split Bitcoin so they could activate Segwit a bit earlier tells me they don't share my long term interests. If anything, it was an attack on my interests as a holder. Likewise, hard forks -- particularly contentious and hasty ones -- similarly threaten my long term interests.

There's a lot more to gain in terms of consumer (cheap) payments, anonymous payments, smart contracts and more if we are just patient and allow developers to build on top of Segwit.
sr. member
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I was always sceptical of TA when it comes to bitcoin but is that not a perfect head and shoulders in the bitstamp hourly? pls say no

https://imgur.com/3nK0IdZ

No, it´s just chinese, japanese, europeans, americans, jamie dimons, goldmans sachses, bitcoins regulated here, or there, and what not.
That makes the price !

Forget your TA !


I use "head and shoulders" only, when i shower .  Smiley



hero member
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Plant 1xTree for each Satoshi earned!
I really do not understand why the "core team" has a 2X problem.
Without 2X is not Segwit. Bitcoin has exponential support, so 2X is a good compromise.

... ok I understand that they want to create a "market fee" and "birth of side chains" as soon as possible.

The war between Bitcoin and Segwit2x will damage both sides and finally 2X is necessary (only the of time question)

You are full of shit.

You assume the conclusion to your logical puzzle. Don't know why core is against, 2x, 2x is necessary.. blah blah blah...

No 2x is not necessary.  There is absolutely no reason for 2x, except the fact that various folks (including you) are making up facts and conclusions in order to assert that 2x is necessary, when it is clearly not.

2x is only being propositioned as being necessary in order to make attacks upon THE REAL bitcoin.

You know that, but you are just coming into this thread and making nonsensical points and assuming the conclusion that you want to reach (and you hope others will reach your nonsense too..... like they do in r/btc... and.. makes NO sense.


As I always advocate! We need smaller blocks! It is a security issue and the independence of the coin depends on it. Cheesy Cheesy

There are zillions of alt coins ready to take over a chunk of the day to day transactions at a market acceptance price. Think about a coin with circuit breakers! It would be predictable and fast in the same time. Smiley
legendary
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I was always sceptical of TA when it comes to bitcoin but is that not a perfect head and shoulders in the bitstamp hourly? pls say no

https://imgur.com/3nK0IdZ
legendary
Activity: 1442
Merit: 1016
Altcoins are going down because of the sell pressure of the big investors, they want to accumulate BTC, so they can get a free airdrop from BTCgold....  Roll Eyes

LOL, so there's something called BTC Gold coming up now? You've gotta be kidding me, I didn't know about that all.

I didn't even completely extract my bitcoin cash off from my bitcoin wallets... Now I'll be getting BTC Gold too? I literally am not interested in such pathetic trash! Cry

No problem.
Can you do me a favor? Once BTC Gold is launched (Oct 25), can you move your BTC to new wallet and just give me your unused private keys?  Tongue

I don't get why bitcoin holders do not realize that every alt coming out from bitcoin eventually is our best way to get more free bitcoins! Pathetic trash you called it. I agree! But do you know what it's been used in farming as a fertilizer?
Shit! I mean real shit! Now they call it compost.

So let them create their alts so that we can dump them for BTC. Easy


Yes it's free money for each bitcoin holder. And as this is open source hardforks by people who think things should go a different direction are inevitable.
Nothing wrong about that. If you're smart you will know how to make money or more bitcoin out of it.
And the more forks we will see in the future the less and less importance or kind of threat they will be for the legacy chain. Bitcoin gets more and more resistent. This is good. We need this "tests" and attacks now to see if Bitcoin is indeed as strong as it was designed.
legendary
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a Cray can run an endless loop in under 4 hours
Altcoins are going down because of the sell pressure of the big investors, they want to accumulate BTC, so they can get a free airdrop from BTCgold....  Roll Eyes

LOL, so there's something called BTC Gold coming up now? You've gotta be kidding me, I didn't know about that all.

I didn't even completely extract my bitcoin cash off from my bitcoin wallets... Now I'll be getting BTC Gold too? I literally am not interested in such pathetic trash! Cry

No problem.
Can you do me a favor? Once BTC Gold is launched (Oct 25), can you move your BTC to new wallet and just give me your unused private keys?  Tongue

I don't get why bitcoin holders do not realize that every alt coming out from bitcoin eventually is our best way to get more free bitcoins! Pathetic trash you called it. I agree! But do you know what it's been used in farming as a fertilizer?
Shit! I mean real shit! Now they call it compost.

So let them create their alts so that we can dump them for BTC. Easy

I see these forks as some kind of inflation. some bitcoin value moved to bcash, without bcash bitcoin price would be higher. they also lead to a lot of confusion for new bitcoin users. these forks are bad imo.
legendary
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Merit: 1422
Altcoins are going down because of the sell pressure of the big investors, they want to accumulate BTC, so they can get a free airdrop from BTCgold....  Roll Eyes

LOL, so there's something called BTC Gold coming up now? You've gotta be kidding me, I didn't know about that all.

I didn't even completely extract my bitcoin cash off from my bitcoin wallets... Now I'll be getting BTC Gold too? I literally am not interested in such pathetic trash! Cry

No problem.
Can you do me a favor? Once BTC Gold is launched (Oct 25), can you move your BTC to new wallet and just give me your unused private keys?  Tongue

I don't get why bitcoin holders do not realize that every alt coming out from bitcoin eventually is our best way to get more free bitcoins! Pathetic trash you called it. I agree! But do you know what it's been used in farming as a fertilizer?
Shit! I mean real shit! Now they call it compost.

So let them create their alts so that we can dump them for BTC. Easy
legendary
Activity: 3374
Merit: 4738
diamond-handed zealot
man, this r/btc must be some kind of fucked up echo chamber
legendary
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Merit: 11299
Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
I really do not understand why the "core team" has a 2X problem.

Greg Maxwell is on the "core team". That goes a long way to explain a lot of weird shit IMHO.


Weird shit like what?  What do you got?  You are just making up shit, and engaging in personal attacks without any kind of reason, except to drop names that you want to attack and without any basis..  Why don't you and Odalv go back to r/btc with your non-substantive personal attacks.. and spout your meritless anti-core nonsense.  go back and push your Bcash and your segwit2x and your other baloney attack coins..

legendary
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Merit: 1016
All I know is it will mean more free btc for me.
legendary
Activity: 3920
Merit: 11299
Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
I really do not understand why the "core team" has a 2X problem.
Without 2X is not Segwit. Bitcoin has exponential support, so 2X is a good compromise.

... ok I understand that they want to create a "market fee" and "birth of side chains" as soon as possible.

The war between Bitcoin and Segwit2x will damage both sides and finally 2X is necessary (only the of time question)

You are full of shit.

You assume the conclusion to your logical puzzle. Don't know why core is against, 2x, 2x is necessary.. blah blah blah...

No 2x is not necessary.  There is absolutely no reason for 2x, except the fact that various folks (including you) are making up facts and conclusions in order to assert that 2x is necessary, when it is clearly not.

2x is only being propositioned as being necessary in order to make attacks upon THE REAL bitcoin.

You know that, but you are just coming into this thread and making nonsensical points and assuming the conclusion that you want to reach (and you hope others will reach your nonsense too..... like they do in r/btc... and.. makes NO sense.
hero member
Activity: 894
Merit: 501
I really do not understand why the "core team" has a 2X problem.

Greg Maxwell is on the "core team". That goes a long way to explain a lot of weird shit IMHO.


Yup. It's about the development team. 2x has corporate banking and is essentially a coup, corporate cartel takeover attempt. That would mean more centralised development so less secure. Probably more cartel mining too.
sgk
legendary
Activity: 1470
Merit: 1002
!! HODL !!
Good morning Bitcoinland.

Down a couple of benjamins I see, but over a third of the way back... currently $4300USD/$5378CAD (Bitcoinaverage).

Most alts also down... AltCash currently at $399USD/$499CAD (Coinmarketcap).

I don't see any immediate reason for this strange dip but it's not that deep, certainly not worth buying. We're basically back to where we were the day before yesterday. Strange stuff.

Yup, really strange stuff happening with Ethereum, Monero, ETC too. Constantly going down but bitcoin is sustaining pretty good.

But hey, its time to buy some ETC/ETH/XMR, they can't go more down!

Altcoins are going down because of the sell pressure of the big investors, they want to accumulate BTC, so they can get a free airdrop from BTCgold....  Roll Eyes

LOL, so there's something called BTC Gold coming up now? You've gotta be kidding me, I didn't know about that all.

I didn't even completely extract my bitcoin cash off from my bitcoin wallets... Now I'll be getting BTC Gold too? I literally am not interested in such pathetic trash! Cry

No problem.
Can you do me a favor? Once BTC Gold is launched (Oct 25), can you move your BTC to new wallet and just give me your unused private keys?  Tongue
sr. member
Activity: 406
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I really do not understand why the "core team" has a 2X problem.

Greg Maxwell is on the "core team". That goes a long way to explain a lot of weird shit IMHO.
legendary
Activity: 2338
Merit: 1130
Good morning Bitcoinland.

Down a couple of benjamins I see, but over a third of the way back... currently $4300USD/$5378CAD (Bitcoinaverage).

Most alts also down... AltCash currently at $399USD/$499CAD (Coinmarketcap).

I don't see any immediate reason for this strange dip but it's not that deep, certainly not worth buying. We're basically back to where we were the day before yesterday. Strange stuff.

Yup, really strange stuff happening with Ethereum, Monero, ETC too. Constantly going down but bitcoin is sustaining pretty good.

But hey, its time to buy some ETC/ETH/XMR, they can't go more down!

Altcoins are going down because of the sell pressure of the big investors, they want to accumulate BTC, so they can get a free airdrop from BTCgold....  Roll Eyes

LOL, so there's something called BTC Gold coming up now? You've gotta be kidding me, I didn't know about that all.

I didn't even completely extract my bitcoin cash off from my bitcoin wallets... Now I'll be getting BTC Gold too? I literally am not interested in such pathetic trash! Cry

Back to topic:  We dump all the alts for BTC, (if/when it's "safe.")  That'll teach 'em.
legendary
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Something I find most amusing is the process whereby a given hypothesis goes from being patently absurd to irrelevant truth overnight.

One day the theory is so ludicrous that anyone espousing it is clearly insane, then the revelation comes out and suddenly the truth of what yesterday was proof of lunacy is suddenly old news, or just no big deal.

I have had many opportunities to be amused by this.

Like 9/11 and every mass shooting in the US since Colombine?  Deep state observer!  Are we in the final throes of capitalism and democracy yet?

For anyone awake, or wants to be: What are the Odds It's Another False Flag Attack?

https://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/10/02/vegas-odds/
full member
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Actually pretty much every financial instrument on this planet moves in bullet time mode compare to Bitcoin (or most crypto). 
Since there is so much volatility in BTC already, using leveraged position in bucket shop like eToro or BitMex is a really bad idea.  People are more likely to get whipsawed and cleaned out of their position.  The real downside is that it prevents you from becoming a true hodler, which is what makes real money in the long run.

My BCs are sacred, no etoro for them. They only stay briefly in Gemini or sometimes Coinbase Smiley
Also I almost never leverage as it scares the sh**t out of me, seems more like gambling!

I am wondering if we will ever pass the matrix and start predicting the slow stock markets after dope bitcoin training XD
legendary
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I really do not understand why the "core team" has a 2X problem.
Without 2X is not Segwit. Bitcoin has exponential support, so 2X is a good compromise.

... ok I understand that they want to create a "market fee" and "birth of side chains" as soon as possible.

The war between Bitcoin and Segwit2x will damage both sides and finally 2X is necessary (only the of time question)
full member
Activity: 140
Merit: 100
Bought gold for the first time...
Man this thing moves in matrix bullet mode compared to bitcoin, I've developed ADHD
What goodie did you get?

Just passing some time on etoro waiting for tomorrow, not wasting money on gold per se XD
Maybe gold will move 0.00005% by tomorrow

Actually pretty much every financial instrument on this planet moves in bullet time mode compare to Bitcoin (or most crypto). 
Since there is so much volatility in BTC already, using leveraged position in bucket shop like eToro or BitMex is a really bad idea.  People are more likely to get whipsawed and cleaned out of their position.  The real downside is that it prevents you from becoming a true hodler, which is what makes real money in the long run.
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