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really ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wgcOsTY1iY

I am also new to this one, first time hearing of it. But if you say you are not interested in it, don't you thing that I might grow and you would be left behind?

Popular misconception. There is no federal prohibition upon private citizens owning full auto weapons.

The NFA of 1934 was the first federal gun law (save for a ban on sending handguns though US Mail). It made ownership of full auto weapons subject to a $200 tax (at the time, several times the cost of a typical such weapon), fingerprints on file, and sign-off by local law enforcement officer. The federal picture on ownership of full auto weapons is statutorily pretty similar today. Of course many peripheral laws have been passed that make such ownership less and less practical.

What states do is somewhat different. I assume Nevada allows such, but I really have no reason to look it up. I think they are legal in the majority of states.

edit: Ever wonder why federal gun laws are enforced by a division of the US Treasury? Picture 1934. Prohibition has been just been repealed. Depression is in full swing. What to do with legions of jackboots on the federal payrolls who have just had their reason for being on the payroll repealed? Obviously politically unpalatable to just lay them off (I guess the term at the time would have unapologetically been 'fired'). Why not create an entirely new reason for these revenuers to be on the payroll? Hence, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms. Who cares if a few fringe gun owners get hurt in the process? It serves the greater good, donchaknow.

The story is that the weapons were legally purchased semi-auto rifles and he used a bumpstock.

This does jive with the MSM video, where the cycle rate, while clearly too fast for individual trigger pulls, is really too slow for true automatic fire.

I have seen nothing so far to suggest that the alleged 32nd floor shooter used illegally obtained or full auto weapons.

I never said conspiracies doesn't exist. The pentagon hit is one.... JFK is the most obvious one.... I am just saying that I don't think THIS ONE is.

P.S.: So in this case I expect to see the evidence soon.

Well, those are really "gun nuts" as you say. I like guns, but wouldn't consider myself a "lover" at all. I own several but rarely go to the shooting range. Most of the time I just don't even remember I have them until I have to renew the licenses. Only a few people knows I have them -not that I have any reason to HIDE it either-.

But most of all I learned (or was "teached") to respect them since I was a child.

I would say it is more probable that someone that hasn't learned to respect guns through his entire life and just have the economical means to buy a BUNCH of ILEGAL firearms (I think owning full auto is illegal in USA) would have more probabilities to become a mass shooter. More so if he just recently bought them for this. No need to love guns or anything.

And don't tell me a multi-millionaire guy would have much difficulty in buying that arsenal of ilegal guns in the black market.

Also, you don't need to practice much for shooting into a 1km square full of people (20.000+) from 300m distance with a full auto. Just the basics of the gun functions, reloading (which btw took him a very long time), etc.... No need to really aim beyond an instinct orientation into the mass of people.

This is probative. I've really not started reading on this incident. But even if he used more than 1 (did he? sounds like 1 full auto and dozens of loaded mags), 23 is patently ridiculous. Granted, looney people will do looney shit. But this screams of intentional media hysteria.

Or ya'know, they'll hire a look alike actor, reenact the scene, retcon the dates/times on the security footage, etc.. etc.. lol

It would be an international tragedy if were to actually talk about bitcoin... you pathetic fucks!!!!           

Not likely. They eventually released like 3 frames of footage of the plane that hit the pentagon.
Maybe we'll get lucky and get 4 frames from Mandalay Bay in 10 years or so.

Until we're not, at which point that which was so recently the most appallingly irresponsible speculation suddenly becomes so yawn inducing that it barely warrants reportage.

The only amazing thing is that, apparently, they can and do have it both ways.

I've known some gun lovers in my day. Some of them, you could even call them "gun nuts". They own several, many, and go to the shooting range quite a bit. And I can tell you than a true gun lover will make it known to you within the first 20-30 minutes of conversation with them, they are that passionate. Everyone in their circle of family and friends, and often even at their workplace knows that they love guns.

So they want us to believe that Steve Paddock that supposedly owned 30-40+ guns never once mentioned it to anyone? No family even? Really? And this guy never practiced shooting with them anywhere? Again, really?

And who would take 23 guns into a hotel room, when only 1 or 2 would be needed do the job?

http://www.n-tv.de/20064180

https://techcentral.co.za/goldman-sachs-may-open-bitcoin-trading-desk/77309/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/naeemaslam/2017/10/03/goldman-sachs-bitcoin-desk-would-attract-mega-funds/#5be784733fa1

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-10-02/goldman-sachs-said-to-explore-starting-bitcoin-trading-venture

https://www.wsj.com/articles/goldman-sachs-explores-a-new-world-trading-bitcoin-1506959128

Thought it would be worth sharing it.

OK, I see where you are going.

Well, let's see if they release footage from the Mandalay Bay cameras to clear all that doubts.

P.S.: Oh, and it is not the people that "love" guns the more inclined to use them as a tool for a crime. Maybe on the contrary.

I understand. The normals are so hard to talk to. They don't understand. How could they?

he was Paddock’s neighbor between December 2015 and June 2016

Well that's covered it, no chance this guy could be the killer. Someone knew him for 5 months and he never mentioned owning a gun.

Because no one is buying the story that a quiet, 67 yr old retiree with millions of dollars and a penchant for gambling just snapped one day, drove 80 minutes with 23 guns to a Vegas hotel, and shot up a crowd of country music lovers. With no history of violence, no criminal record, no political or religious affiliations, no military background, and no love for guns even.

Esp. not his former neighbor:
http://thelibertarianadvisor.com/2017/10/03/neighbor-of-las-vegas-shooter-claims-he-didnt-do-it/

Occam's Razor is about parsimony in metaphysics, not being a retard.

That video is not available anymore, but I have seen a few videos in which the pulsing/strobe light/reflection/whatever is shown. All of them are recorded from a similar location ie: just in the middle from Mandalay Bay and Mccarran airport. So my theory of a reflection from a strobe light from the airport stands. I haven't really devoted any time to check if the reflection varies slightly depending on the exact position each of those recordings were made, but feel free to do it and you will most probably see there is some variation.

Also, the strobe light appears in some videos indepently of the firing so whatever it is it doesn't seem to be related.

About that picture where the broken glass should be visible..... Well, the quality is so low is it is impossible to say if they are broken or not. Remember there is some thick dark brown courtain behind too.

Anyway, it is just a matter of time all the evidence come to light:

There were several hundreds, maybe even thousands, of bullets shoot that night, that means:

1- While most of those hit the ground and people, some surely hit fixed soft objects that would leave an imprint of where the bullets where coming: Metal poles, wooden estructures, signal panels, HUGE scenario screen, etc....
If when the forensic report comes to light things doesn't add up, then tell me again.

2- A firing like that would fill all the room with so much smoke that even breathing would not be confortable. It would set all smoke alarms (ok, you can cover them with a bath cap or disable the sensor) and it would stink forever not to mention all the burned power residues left on the exact position of the shooter, and the shells, etc... From the sound of the videos you could even calculate exactly how many bullets were shot and compare with the number of shells left behind.

3- If there a shooter on a different floor room, you could probably even tell just by powder odor OUTSIDE the room. Those rooms also have floor carpets, good luck getting the odor out.

Why is it so hard to assume that ANYONE could go nuts and just do something like this just because he feels like?

Wake me up on the conspiracy theories when they start saying his multi-million net worth came from his Bitcoin dealings.

The goal is to sow the seeds of fear and division within the U.S. public.

Occam's Razor says that there are only two real possibilities here:

1. That Steve Paddock was part of a Islamic terrorist cell within the U.S., and that he lived a secret double life of solitude until he was 'activated'. Then he carried out his masters' plan.

-or-

2. That Steve Paddock was just an innocent patsy used as a coverup, and this was a Deep State/CIA operation from the beginning.

In either scenario, the U.S. Government, the MSM and the police are all flat out lying to the American people as to who was behind this attack and why.

No one is buying the story that a quiet, 67 yr old retiree with millions of dollars and a penchant for gambling just snapped one day, drove 80 minutes with 23 guns to a Vegas hotel, and shot up a crowd of country music lovers.