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Quote from: jbreher on July 23, 2017, 07:29:05 PM

Roger Ver, who owns ViaBTC

Got any evidence to go with that assertion?

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Bitcoin Cash is NOT a HF of Bitcoin.

By any sane definition, Bitcoin Cash is exactly a hard fork of the Bitcoin blockchain.

Evidence? Not really, but I would be very surprised it isn't the case. Anyways, the point was Bitcoin.com is a biased news source about this issues, can we agree on that even if you share that same bias?

About the HF... so they are going to replicate the blockchain and then change a lot of rules and divert some (undetermined) hashrate to mine on that.... It is not exactly as if Bitcoin forked. It is an altcoin since its very inception and I think that is the only good thing they are doing about it. It would be irresponsible if it were a real HF more so after an agreement and even reaching 100% consensus on BTC.

If you mean it "forks" from a copy of the Bitcoin blockchain, well, yeah.

P.S.: WHY do you think "Bitcoin cash" is good for Bitcoin holders? I am talking mainly about PRICE impact here.

I believe the pie in the sky premise of the various big blocker "hardfork" nut jobs is their fantastical belief that they are either going to be able to garner sufficient hashpower and economic nodes in order to become the longest bitcoin chain - and to really give bitcoin a run for its money - yet even when they attempt to trick folks into some kind of colluding path forward, they cannot accomplish such collusion based on actual facts and confidence that their way is the "better" way forward, and then they lose substantial portions of those - except some of the extensive baggage wielding nutjobs.

Even though we may have concluded that segwit was going to take some of the wind out of the sail of these arguments, a lot of these folks are so deluded in their thinking that they are never going to be satisfied, and it is likely that they are going to continue to battle for several more years on this same topic... it would be nice if they had a coin that they could just focus upon, but they are never going to be satisfied, so even that seems an insubstantial resolution.

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Quote from: jbreher on July 23, 2017, 07:29:05 PM

Roger Ver, who owns ViaBTC

Got any evidence to go with that assertion?

Quote

Bitcoin Cash is NOT a HF of Bitcoin.

By any sane definition, Bitcoin Cash is exactly a hard fork of the Bitcoin blockchain.

Evidence? Not really, but I would be very surprised it isn't the case. Anyways, the point was Bitcoin.com is a biased news source about this issues, can we agree on that even if you share that same bias?

About the HF... so they are going to replicate the blockchain and then change a lot of rules and divert some (undetermined) hashrate to mine on that.... It is not exactly as if Bitcoin forked. It is an altcoin since its very inception and I think that is the only good thing they are doing about it. It would be irresponsible if it were a real HF more so after an agreement and even reaching 100% consensus on BTC.

If you mean it "forks" from a copy of the Bitcoin blockchain, well, yeah.

P.S.: WHY do you think "Bitcoin cash" is good for Bitcoin holders? I am talking mainly about PRICE impact here.

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Roger Ver, who owns ViaBTC

Got any evidence to go with that assertion?

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Bitcoin Cash is NOT a HF of Bitcoin.

By any sane definition, Bitcoin Cash is exactly a hard fork of the Bitcoin blockchain.

Here to pump an altcoin bear? ... things must be getting pretty sad in the anti-core camp?

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Quote from: petemoss2 on July 23, 2017, 05:20:56 PM

Ok, here's a question.

When BCC splits off we all have the same amount of BCC and BTC. If I have my coins safe on paper wallets how do I go about sweeping the private key of my BCC to dump without making the cold wallets for my BTC no longer cold as I have entered the private key on an online computer?

I don't think you can. But what would be the point of so doing? Just wait until you eventually want to spend some, then split it at that time.

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BCC looks like a winner to me. Wish I wasn't an American citizen so I could bet on it.

I think you'll get your chance. I'm guessing some US-accessible exchanges will list it within a day or three.

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Roger Ver, who owns ViaBTC

Got any evidence to go with that assertion?

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Bitcoin Cash is NOT a HF of Bitcoin.

By any sane definition, Bitcoin Cash is exactly a hard fork of the Bitcoin blockchain.

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Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on July 23, 2017, 06:56:49 PM

I'm not gonna bother reading the link.

Another old-timer who couldn’t bother to read/understand the link. At least you were honest.

there was nothing to read/understand ... you posted a half-baked photo but didn't have anything mining specific in it, why waste time on idiots?

Next thing you know the guy is running a 'crowd sale' ICO cloud mining or presales for mining rental token contracts or some other such scam based on a glitzy looking photo.

It's really getting a lot like gold miners ... what's that saying about liars standing over holes?

Scams are getting old dude, if you want to suck up to Jihan and pump for the scammy miners go for it. Don't try to sell it as something big, shiny and new.

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Quote from: lost_in_base on July 23, 2017, 12:28:50 PM

Via will be left alone with its fake volume halting its users real coins.

To be avoided:
Bitbank Inc.
Bitpoint Japan Co. Ltd.
Quoine Co. Ltd.
Fisco Cryptocurrency Exchange Inc.
Coincheck Co. Ltd.
Btc Box Co. Ltd.
Tech Bureau Co. Ltd. (Zaif Exchange)
GMO-Z.com Coin Co. Ltd.
Campfire Corporation
Bit Trade Co. Ltd.
Bitcrements Bitcoin Exchange
Tokyo Bitcoin Co. Ltd.
Minnano Bitcoin

The cognitive dissonance is strong with this one. In what way is having no fewer than the thirteen other exchanges you list definable as 'alone'?

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Quote from: European Central Bank on July 23, 2017, 02:48:21 PM

Quote from: BitcoinNewsMagazine on July 23, 2017, 06:14:33 PM

It's funny to read people speculate about how Bitcoin would look like if mining was fairer when its happening right now with Monero: https://boards.4chan.org/g/thread/61488992#p61492245

that thread is incomprehensible. what does it mean?

... the picture he posted is a diesel back-up generator connected to what looks like a UPS or bank of high voltage power switching cabinets, i.e. transformer ... all in an underground tunnel of some sort ... I guess that's what monero mining looks like, sheesh gullible idiots Roll Eyes

I'm not gonna bother reading the link.

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Ok, here's a question.

When BCC splits off we all have the same amount of BCC and BTC. If I have my coins safe on paper wallets how do I go about sweeping the private key of my BCC to dump without making the cold wallets for my BTC no longer cold as I have entered the private key on an online computer?

You have to sweep your paper wallet private keys into a local wallet on your computer that supports both chains and will give you an equal amount of BTC and BCC. That solution does not exist yet though. Stay tuned. If you already have your bitcoin on a Ledger Nano S or Trezor they will most likely support both chains. Electrum may also.

so you essentially give your private keys up na im good Wink

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Ok, here's a question.

When BCC splits off we all have the same amount of BCC and BTC. If I have my coins safe on paper wallets how do I go about sweeping the private key of my BCC to dump without making the cold wallets for my BTC no longer cold as I have entered the private key on an online computer?

You have to sweep your paper wallet private keys into a local wallet on your computer that supports both chains and will give you an equal amount of BTC and BCC. That solution does not exist yet though. Stay tuned. If you already have your bitcoin on a Ledger Nano S or Trezor they will most likely support both chains. Electrum may also.

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Ok, here's a question.

When BCC splits off we all have the same amount of BCC and BTC. If I have my coins safe on paper wallets how do I go about sweeping the private key of my BCC to dump without making the cold wallets for my BTC no longer cold as I have entered the private key on an online computer?

You can't. You will need to enter the private keys into a computer... you could do it on a secure isolated one and then copy the signed tx's over to another connected one.... But that's a lot off hassle.

That's why I always recommend EVERYONE to buy a hardware wallet. Life is easy and wonderful since I did, and it has allowed me to safely participate on several coin airdrops which by itself is worth a bunch of hardware wallets.

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Quote from: sirazimuth on July 23, 2017, 05:58:59 PM

Ok, here's a question.

When BCC splits off we all have the same amount of BCC and BTC. If I have my coins safe on paper wallets how do I go about sweeping the private key of my BCC to dump without making the cold wallets for my BTC no longer cold as I have entered the private key on an online computer?

~when we dump our BCC... lol Cool

= btc to $3200+

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Quote from: European Central Bank on July 23, 2017, 02:48:21 PM

Quote from: European Central Bank on July 23, 2017, 02:48:21 PM

It's funny to read people speculate about how Bitcoin would look like if mining was fairer when its happening right now with Monero: https://boards.4chan.org/g/thread/61488992#p61492245

that thread is incomprehensible. what does it mean?

and i thought it was just me...

you can rent a missile silo with bitcoin? Cool

that's epic*

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Ok, here's a question.

When BCC splits off we all have the same amount of BCC and BTC. If I have my coins safe on paper wallets how do I go about sweeping the private key of my BCC to dump without making the cold wallets for my BTC no longer cold as I have entered the private key on an online computer?

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