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Quote from: El duderino_ on July 15, 2017, 03:11:36 AM

Quote from: Lauda on July 15, 2017, 03:22:21 AM

If you do have fiat, set sub 2000 bids up. I did a week ago.

Can't see it holding all the way to the 1st at this rate whatever happens. And if Segwit signalling doesn't look close at the end of the month it will get messier still; you may be looking at today's price with a wistful nostalgic sigh.

Note: been away, and about to head off again to where it's light until midnight. However, I'm very happy with the WO survival... and congrats to infofront for being brave enough to take on the thread. Right man for the job IMHO.

for a very new guy like me, how far do you acctually think the price will drop

and off my stash of btc that i have been buying (actually not knowing what i was buying ) for 1.5year never sold a coin still just keep holding ??

Keep buying! Downside is very limited. We'll see >10000 by the end of this year.

thanks for the advice the last days where breathe taking

but just to learn understand what do you think acctualy is happening now or is going to happing ( explaind in easy terms and easy english cause i'm normal dutch speaking

)

and i will keep buying dips then

Nothing breathtaking here, business as usual in Bitcoinland. Greedy and overstretched margin longs will get liquidated and their bitcoins expropriated really cheap. Potential HF is a good panic fuel and is quite handy for the purpose of market manipulation.

ok and your opinion for next days up or down

and just for the run i'm in bitcoinland this last weeks where the most intense i think cause its allready 3-4 time it goes from +- 3000 to 2000....

so most important whats is actually going to happen in youre opinion for august 1?? and after?? , is this fork or anything going to happen or most likly not ??

I don't care about next 3-4 days or what will happen on 1st August. The so called day trading is a waste of time. I use every 10-15% price drop to increase my bitcoin exposure and I'm never wrong. Just follow the golden rule - use only long term funds you won't need for the next couple of years.

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I followed that link, then listened to https://soundcloud.com/heryptohow/roger-ver-on-craig-wrights-the-future-of-bitcoin-speech. I must say that he has a fair point regarding scaling. I would agree with him, but I certainly don't like the prospect of less decentralisation due to more expensive node tech.

If you think that, then you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about and you're being bamboozled. Roger Ver has absolutely zero credibility when it comes to technicalities, and CW is a scammer. Both have fundamental misunderstanding of SegWit and scaling in general. What their actual agenda is, besides centralization/corporate takeover, is debatable.

I guess it's down to a choice between two compromises.

It's a choice between an actual improvement and one that does nothing besides give a little throughput and centralization.

Quote from: Elwar on July 15, 2017, 03:52:27 AM

edit: the only way to avoid a split that I can think of is to accept Segwit2x for now, then get consensus for much bigger block size over the next year...

Again, you have no idea what you're talking about. Segwit2x, aka FrankenSegwit, with their ever changing proposal wants to do a flag day fork in November this year.

Well, I hope you're right. I did get the impression that Ver was rather emotional, and clinging a bit to a sentimental perception of what he thought Bitcoin was. I got this impression generally, then more concretely when he kept on saying that Bitcoin isn't broken and doesn't need fixing. I do have at least a modicum of knowledge (your accusation that I have "absolutely no idea" was a tad OTT to my mind), as I know that Segwit fixes things that indeed needing fixing, such as the necessary malleability fixes.

I guess what resonated with me was what Ver was saying about the small block size and Bitcoin transaction fee issue. I understand that spammign the network is a major difficulty, but I really haven't managed to uncover in my web searches, any further reason for why many of the developers allegedly don't want a block size increase. Is that the case?

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Nothing will happen on August 1st. As we have seen many times before, lots of drama.

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August 1st it is safest to have your bitcoins off of the exchange in a wallet.

Some people may have figured out that it's also "safe" to have your money on the exchange in dollars.

I think August 1st will be anticlimactic.

good i only keep a few btc on kraken rest is allways on a ledger.... and what does that means "anticlimactic"

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August 1st it is safest to have your bitcoins off of the exchange in a wallet.

Some people may have figured out that it's also "safe" to have your money on the exchange in dollars.

I think August 1st will be anticlimactic.

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Quote from: becoin on July 15, 2017, 03:41:47 AM

Quote from: El duderino_ on July 15, 2017, 03:26:32 AM

Quote from: El duderino_ on July 15, 2017, 03:11:36 AM

Quote from: Ted E. Bare on July 15, 2017, 03:46:42 AM

If you do have fiat, set sub 2000 bids up. I did a week ago.

Can't see it holding all the way to the 1st at this rate whatever happens. And if Segwit signalling doesn't look close at the end of the month it will get messier still; you may be looking at today's price with a wistful nostalgic sigh.

Note: been away, and about to head off again to where it's light until midnight. However, I'm very happy with the WO survival... and congrats to infofront for being brave enough to take on the thread. Right man for the job IMHO.

for a very new guy like me, how far do you acctually think the price will drop

and off my stash of btc that i have been buying (actually not knowing what i was buying ) for 1.5year never sold a coin still just keep holding ??

Keep buying! Downside is very limited. We'll see >10000 by the end of this year.

thanks for the advice the last days where breathe taking

but just to learn understand what do you think acctualy is happening now or is going to happing ( explaind in easy terms and easy english cause i'm normal dutch speaking

)

and i will keep buying dips then

Nothing breathtaking here, business as usual in Bitcoinland. Greedy and overstretched margin longs will get liquidated and their bitcoins expropriated really cheap. Potential HF is a good panic fuel and is quite handy for the purpose of market manipulation.

ok and your opinion for next days up or down

and just for the run i'm in bitcoinland this last weeks where the most intense i think cause its allready 3-4 time it goes from +- 3000 to 2000....

so most important whats is actually going to happen in youre opinion for august 1?? and after?? , is this fork or anything going to happen or most likly not ??

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Every time when you hear it is the end of bitcoin you know you can put your buy orders in.

lol! exactly! Lots of weak hands selling at whatever price they get when they have to actually buy in truck loads and fill their bags. How sad!

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And down we go again yeeeaaahhhhh Cool

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Quote from: FractalUniverse on July 15, 2017, 02:44:09 AM

I was filled later in the night (finex). added one more lower and now i have another order at 2010.
Taking only small positions, because I know its bearish now and it can go deep below 2000. But in the past, I learned hard way not to short bitcoin, so im jumping in front of bears now Cheesy

making tiny grid here.

I've had the same problem with shorting, I think I only won once or twice - I now just tend to buy at various points where I think its the bottom and wait it out (non spread betting)

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Quote from: El duderino_ on July 15, 2017, 03:26:32 AM

Quote from: El duderino_ on July 15, 2017, 03:11:36 AM

Quote from: ivomm on July 15, 2017, 03:29:37 AM

If you do have fiat, set sub 2000 bids up. I did a week ago.

Can't see it holding all the way to the 1st at this rate whatever happens. And if Segwit signalling doesn't look close at the end of the month it will get messier still; you may be looking at today's price with a wistful nostalgic sigh.

Note: been away, and about to head off again to where it's light until midnight. However, I'm very happy with the WO survival... and congrats to infofront for being brave enough to take on the thread. Right man for the job IMHO.

for a very new guy like me, how far do you acctually think the price will drop

and off my stash of btc that i have been buying (actually not knowing what i was buying ) for 1.5year never sold a coin still just keep holding ??

Keep buying! Downside is very limited. We'll see >10000 by the end of this year.

thanks for the advice the last days where breathe taking

but just to learn understand what do you think acctualy is happening now or is going to happing ( explaind in easy terms and easy english cause i'm normal dutch speaking

)

and i will keep buying dips then

Nothing breathtaking here, business as usual in Bitcoinland. Greedy and overstretched margin longs will get liquidated and their bitcoins expropriated really cheap. Potential HF is a good panic fuel and is quite handy for the purpose of market manipulation.

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If this is the price now, what will the price be 1st August

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Quote from: El duderino_ on July 15, 2017, 03:26:32 AM

Quote from: El duderino_ on July 15, 2017, 03:11:36 AM

Quote from: El duderino_ on July 15, 2017, 03:26:32 AM

If you do have fiat, set sub 2000 bids up. I did a week ago.

Can't see it holding all the way to the 1st at this rate whatever happens. And if Segwit signalling doesn't look close at the end of the month it will get messier still; you may be looking at today's price with a wistful nostalgic sigh.

Note: been away, and about to head off again to where it's light until midnight. However, I'm very happy with the WO survival... and congrats to infofront for being brave enough to take on the thread. Right man for the job IMHO.

for a very new guy like me, how far do you acctually think the price will drop

and off my stash of btc that i have been buying (actually not knowing what i was buying ) for 1.5year never sold a coin still just keep holding ??

Keep buying! Downside is very limited. We'll see >10000 by the end of this year.

thanks for the advice the last days where breathe taking

but just to learn understand what do you think acctualy is happening now or is going to happing ( explaind in easy terms and easy english cause i'm normal dutch speaking

)

and i will keep buying dips then

Take any advice here with a bit of salt. There are some users like Lauda who are well known for manupulating people to rob their money.

yeah i do take it like you say
bud reading this WO for as long as i'm holding btc and just try to ask different guys on here what most likely going to happen and how its goig affect the price, but in easy terms explaind and also want to learn more about the technical side of btc cause for now i'm just buying and holding but not really know what i bought ....

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Quote from: El duderino_ on July 15, 2017, 03:11:36 AM

If you do have fiat, set sub 2000 bids up. I did a week ago.

Can't see it holding all the way to the 1st at this rate whatever happens. And if Segwit signalling doesn't look close at the end of the month it will get messier still; you may be looking at today's price with a wistful nostalgic sigh.

Note: been away, and about to head off again to where it's light until midnight. However, I'm very happy with the WO survival... and congrats to infofront for being brave enough to take on the thread. Right man for the job IMHO.

for a very new guy like me, how far do you acctually think the price will drop

and off my stash of btc that i have been buying (actually not knowing what i was buying ) for 1.5year never sold a coin still just keep holding ??

Keep buying! Downside is very limited. We'll see >10000 by the end of this year.

thanks for the advice the last days where breathe taking

but just to learn understand what do you think acctualy is happening now or is going to happing ( explaind in easy terms and easy english cause i'm normal dutch speaking

)

and i will keep buying dips then

Take any advice here with a bit of salt. There are some users like Lauda who are well known for manupulating people to rob their money.

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Quote from: El duderino_ on July 15, 2017, 03:11:36 AM

If you do have fiat, set sub 2000 bids up. I did a week ago.

Can't see it holding all the way to the 1st at this rate whatever happens. And if Segwit signalling doesn't look close at the end of the month it will get messier still; you may be looking at today's price with a wistful nostalgic sigh.

Note: been away, and about to head off again to where it's light until midnight. However, I'm very happy with the WO survival... and congrats to infofront for being brave enough to take on the thread. Right man for the job IMHO.

for a very new guy like me, how far do you acctually think the price will drop

and off my stash of btc that i have been buying (actually not knowing what i was buying ) for 1.5year never sold a coin still just keep holding ??

Keep buying! Downside is very limited. We'll see >10000 by the end of this year.

thanks for the advice the last days where breathe taking

but just to learn understand what do you think acctualy is happening now or is going to happing ( explaind in easy terms and easy english cause i'm normal dutch speaking

)

and i will keep buying dips then

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I followed that link, then listened to https://soundcloud.com/heryptohow/roger-ver-on-craig-wrights-the-future-of-bitcoin-speech. I must say that he has a fair point regarding scaling. I would agree with him, but I certainly don't like the prospect of less decentralisation due to more expensive node tech.

If you think that, then you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about and you're being bamboozled. Roger Ver has absolutely zero credibility when it comes to technicalities, and CW is a scammer. Both have fundamental misunderstanding of SegWit and scaling in general. What their actual agenda is, besides centralization/corporate takeover, is debatable.

I guess it's down to a choice between two compromises.

It's a choice between an actual improvement and one that does nothing besides give a little throughput and centralization.

edit: the only way to avoid a split that I can think of is to accept Segwit2x for now, then get consensus for much bigger block size over the next year...

Again, you have no idea what you're talking about. Segwit2x, aka FrankenSegwit, with their ever changing proposal wants to do a flag day fork in November this year.

Quote from: El duderino_ on July 15, 2017, 03:11:36 AM

If you do have fiat, set sub 2000 bids up. I did a week ago.

Can't see it holding all the way to the 1st at this rate whatever happens. And if Segwit signalling doesn't look close at the end of the month it will get messier still; you may be looking at today's price with a wistful nostalgic sigh.

You think that the current movements are entirely related to Segwit and BIP 148 / Segwit2x?

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If you do have fiat, set sub 2000 bids up. I did a week ago.

Can't see it holding all the way to the 1st at this rate whatever happens. And if Segwit signalling doesn't look close at the end of the month it will get messier still; you may be looking at today's price with a wistful nostalgic sigh.

Note: been away, and about to head off again to where it's light until midnight. However, I'm very happy with the WO survival... and congrats to infofront for being brave enough to take on the thread. Right man for the job IMHO.

for a very new guy like me, how far do you acctually think the price will drop

and off my stash of btc that i have been buying (actually not knowing what i was buying ) for 1.5year never sold a coin still just keep holding ??

Keep buying! Downside is very limited. We'll see >10000 by the end of this year.

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