Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 17. (Read 26724315 times)

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I think that we have a variety of types in these here parts, including traders and panic sellers, even though it seems that most of us seem to lean towards investing, hodling and accumulating, yet surely guys will still have variations of their preferences.

There are a few shitcoiners here too, and perhaps we are most hostile to shitcoiners... yet there are a few that still squeak out that shitcoiner nonsense, which there might be some needs to reinvigorate some the hostility, even lame ass terms like CSR rather than BSR might have to be battled around, even though the administration seems to be using that term, yet I doubt that creates a license to just speak and vague gobbledy-gook and pump various shitcoins, even if the US Govt might end up being dumb enough (or is that retarded enough?) to include some shitcoins in its reserves, in the event reserves (or stockpile) are actually created.


In other words, you are the winner of the argument.

Winner, winner chicken dinner, but that still does not mean that I am going to concede. 

I will stick with my seemingly lame-ass faulty attempts at continuing to just say no to 100% subjective value.


I am glad that you still see some hope in me and my future potentials.   


I am glad that you are letting up upon the sheer beating that you have been lashing out in my direction, even though from my potentially naive point of view, you seem to be referencing slightly different things, since I would think that perceptions of value would be part of subjective value, so that folks could be wrong in their subjective values which might be different from their being wrong in their perceptions about various aspects of reality that end up that our reality is different than we perceived it to be , which seems to be nearly arguing my point... that there is some kind of reality about what is gravity (that changes depending on context) and perhaps due to information asymmetry we have false ideas regarding why the dollar has value or not, yet I doubt that in either the case of gravity or the value of the dollar that you are presenting an argument that the value is completely subjective, even though there would be stronger arguments that more aspects of the dollar involves subjective value as compared to our perceptions of gravity or various aspects of gravity having differing characteristics if we are put into some other kind of environment in which it ended up changing due to forces outside of ourselves and we may or may not perceive the changes to gravity under the new context..

and sometimes we might not realize the effects of money printer go burr.. but suppose each (gravity and the dollar) has subjective and objective potentials for both value and truth even though you are proclaiming that any value related to those concepts and practices are completely and 100% subjective.. and maybe we are arguing over your definition of subjective to the extent it is relevant.... since you are proclaiming subjective value to be the mother upon which all other values flow, supposedly.

I don't buy it, even if I might not have had defended my position adequately, but it seems to me that I don't have any obligation to defend my position.  I am going to continue to build my 11 inch houses, until such aw haaa moment strikes me into a higher state of enlightenment (but I won't be holding my breath, either).

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I have my doubts that bitcoin prices will still be bouncing around $100k or below $100k in a few weeks, even presuming that you were to get paid around that time... so you may be wishing us bad luck, for naught.  Not that Kind Daddy gives any shits about cash-related (payment related) injustices that have been caused upon uie-pooie.^**  #nohomo

 

**note:  Personally, I don't really care either way if the BTC price goes up, down or sideways, even though sure UP works out better.. but I am not very attached to any of the directions.. Not that king daddy gives any shits about what I might feel or think, either.


You would raise technicalities, now, wouldn't you?

What a party poop!!!!!

 




By the way, are you proclaiming one side or the other in regards to the inventedness versus discovery angle of our lil fiend?  

Inquiring minds want to know.  


In udder words, what's the BIGGIE deal-e-o that you are raising?

Maybe you are saying that bitcoin cannot be one or the other (discovered/invented), and maybe that also answers my question about how it cannot be subjectively valued or objectively valued either?

So choose one, and your are fucked, and don't choose one (by saying both) and you are also fucked.  

Is that what you mean by my purported "false dichotomy"?  whatever that is supposed to mean?

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No. That would be a logical fallacy. That X leads to errors does not imply that errors can't be made under Y. Believing that there are 11 inches in a foot will lead to faulty construction but it's still possible to build a faulty wall with functional measurements, of course.

Other than this mischaracterization, I don't really see anything you wrote that refutes what I said so I'm happy to leave it there. (Plus I'm happy to plant seeds. The Eureka moment can come later).

I see the belief in objective value to be like the belief that things accelerate due to gravity at 9.8m/s/s (32ft/s/s). It seems true because it's something that's always been present in our perception but a change in situation reveals it to be circumstantial. In the same way, many people think a dollar is a dollar (though the insane inflation recently has started to chip away at that too). I guess I didn't quite leave it there so I'll leave it here instead.

Anyone selling at this point doesn't know the importance of accumulation, as I know this little retracement should be a good means of topping the missing chances. WO are strong people and who have passion for strong hodling. Usually is short term pullback that will give momentum to the market for stability or trying to push above it's previous level, so anyone selling shouldn't belong here imo. What do you think?

50% is always preferably to watch out the movement, maybe if there could be a strong rejection or opposition within the shortest time, you could top to add to the previous. I did 45% waiting for another nice shot again... hopefully.

I panic sell my fiat whenever I get some.

 I panic-sold 100% of my fiat.

100% Sale is too Risky.

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100% sale is crazy. Panic or not. I am fairly certain that I will never be 100% out of Bitcoin. That just seems like an unnecessary risk. I did sell quite a bit of Bitcoin once upon a time to pay off my mortgage, but even then I was terrified with the % of my Bitcoin I had to sell. I couldn’t imagine selling everything just to sell it because of fear.

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I remember my first and only 100% panic sell in 2017. In a matter of hours i bought back in. Thanks to this i grew a hodler.
This AI dump is for ants.

well, for example, the fiat dollar the USA uses is backed by mucho superduper gigahugely amounts of military power.

If anyone sell for this "movement" please go out of BTC right now we dont want "silk hands", it was pretty soft, i cant call this a deep hahahaha.

Until now it show how solid is becoming the BTC, only losing a few bucks after a strong shake of the normal market.

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Just in case good movement made by the chinesse to stress the western market but if you ask me they dont have nothing. Pure bluff.

Only an idiot can buy this idiotic narrative. China never create nothing since the Marco Polo expeditions, they only copy/paste something and only can give you a better cost/benefit, nothing more than that and that is also a bullshit in a deep analisys.

@CryptoJelleNL
This time is not different.

https://x.com/cryptojellenl/status/1883944858781638943

Just a matter of time before the next leg up. Likely we see $120,000 - $130,000 by end of Q1.

Did you panic sell on the DeepSeek dip, anon?


@WhalePanda
After all these years it still boggles my mind "Oh no, China will win the AI race.... well they've been better at literally everything so no surprise there, but what better reason to sell all my Bitcoin"
How do you still have Bitcoin to sell if you're that retarded?
https://x.com/whalepanda/status/1883832253094199597

Yep, GTFOH if you panic sold in the last 24 hrs. I’m interested in The Fed’s FOMC Meeting on Wednesday. Trump has hinted that he wants lower rates. We could pump hard if Powell is dovish. Eyes on the prize boys, interesting week ahead.

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This is a false dichotomy.

Look at the history of trading and money. It's all explained therein.
From a philosophers point of view, one may only define true value(s) after he has lost everything.

EDIT: For those following my personal story here (what OpSec?), the final court session with my insurance as combatant will take place in a few weeks. According to the surveys it will be a clear win for me (4th time in 13 years) again. So, when my money will be rolling in, and it's quite a pile after 17 months of trial, Bitcoin will be hopefully still below $100k (don't hate me now), but most probably not.