Altcoin manipulators be like
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Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 17293. (Read 26609771 times)
May 06, 2017, 01:47:29 PM
Altcoin manipulators be like
^BTC @$2017.._^_*(((/\DGB(digibytes)@125satoshis==pump&dump coin of the day :-D
https://poloniex.com/exchange#BTC_DGB
woof!
May 06, 2017, 01:31:27 PM
What in the Holy hell is going on with ripple. All of these alt coins are soaring. Not sure how I can be excited with btc when I see all these others succeeding greater.
The alts just get bought by the newbs due to the potential of a 10 to 100x increase in no time. It's greed and the hope of making a quick buck why alts are soaring. Sooner or later this will have to come to an end.
Bitcoin is doing good. It will continue to rule them all.
We had a great run so far and in this moment it looks like we're moving up a bit again. Since 4 days we are swinging around the $1500 range. No reason to be disappointed.
May 06, 2017, 01:18:28 PM
What in the Holy hell is going on with ripple. All of these alt coins are soaring. Not sure how I can be excited with btc when I see all these others succeeding greater.
May 06, 2017, 01:09:35 PM
Quoted from Slack Chat with Craig Wright
https://pastebin.com/zU6YZWXK
"Layer 2 networks will require the introduction of AML and intermediary controls. These are localised networks in the form of existing intermediaries.
They can be allowed to operate with Bitcoin competitively, but not at the expense of open exchange. This being what they fear, why use L2 if you have no need?
Those who do not think that government can set in and control this are either naive or malicious. There is no other view. This is not a false dichotomy. These are the only options.
In all cases, L2 will require systems that can be controlled and they will require the interaction of merchants and other parties. Networks such as lightning centralise and offer control on a platter."
https://pastebin.com/zU6YZWXK
"Layer 2 networks will require the introduction of AML and intermediary controls. These are localised networks in the form of existing intermediaries.
They can be allowed to operate with Bitcoin competitively, but not at the expense of open exchange. This being what they fear, why use L2 if you have no need?
Those who do not think that government can set in and control this are either naive or malicious. There is no other view. This is not a false dichotomy. These are the only options.
In all cases, L2 will require systems that can be controlled and they will require the interaction of merchants and other parties. Networks such as lightning centralise and offer control on a platter."
Entirely false information. Your mistake was believing a word that clown says.
Please elaborate why its entirely false? In any case to hell with the Craig Wright link. That wasn't my point. My point is my own formed before I read any of Craigs own opinions.
Why is LN not going to centralise transactions? What is the protection against this? i assume we all want the common goal of bitcoin remaining decentralised. Links please. I need enlightenment so I can join the Wall Observer flock of sheeples
Thank you for those words of wisdom. Almost as enlightening as your mickey mouse video. Yes I like Dash which is completely irrelevant to this discussion. I like bitcoin too, I'm invested in bitcoin. I care about bitcoin, which is why I'm here worrying and fretting that LN is a bad idea.
This is from the lighting network paper itself. Near infinite amount of transactions. Off chain. Things that make you go hmm
"If we presume a large network of channels on the Bitcoin blockchain,
and all Bitcoin users are participating on this graph by having at least one
channel open on the Bitcoin blockchain, it is possible to create a near-infinite
amount of transactions inside this network. The only transactions that are
broadcasted on the Bitcoin blockchain prematurely are with uncooperative
channel counterparties."
Can you please explain me with your own words what LN is and does?
May 06, 2017, 01:03:32 PM
You are claiming that LN will create centralization somehow. I see no reason to think that this is the case.
It may not be perfect, but you can't have an infinitely big block size. So layer 2 has to happen and LN is the best way to make it happen.
It may not be perfect, but you can't have an infinitely big block size. So layer 2 has to happen and LN is the best way to make it happen.
May 06, 2017, 12:46:14 PM
Quoted from Slack Chat with Craig Wright
https://pastebin.com/zU6YZWXK
"Layer 2 networks will require the introduction of AML and intermediary controls. These are localised networks in the form of existing intermediaries.
They can be allowed to operate with Bitcoin competitively, but not at the expense of open exchange. This being what they fear, why use L2 if you have no need?
Those who do not think that government can set in and control this are either naive or malicious. There is no other view. This is not a false dichotomy. These are the only options.
In all cases, L2 will require systems that can be controlled and they will require the interaction of merchants and other parties. Networks such as lightning centralise and offer control on a platter."
https://pastebin.com/zU6YZWXK
"Layer 2 networks will require the introduction of AML and intermediary controls. These are localised networks in the form of existing intermediaries.
They can be allowed to operate with Bitcoin competitively, but not at the expense of open exchange. This being what they fear, why use L2 if you have no need?
Those who do not think that government can set in and control this are either naive or malicious. There is no other view. This is not a false dichotomy. These are the only options.
In all cases, L2 will require systems that can be controlled and they will require the interaction of merchants and other parties. Networks such as lightning centralise and offer control on a platter."
Entirely false information. Your mistake was believing a word that clown says.
Please elaborate why its entirely false? In any case to hell with the Craig Wright link. That wasn't my point. My point is my own formed before I read any of Craigs own opinions.
Why is LN not going to centralise transactions? What is the protection against this? i assume we all want the common goal of bitcoin remaining decentralised. Links please. I need enlightenment so I can join the Wall Observer flock of sheeples
Thank you for those words of wisdom. Almost as enlightening as your mickey mouse video. Yes I like Dash which is completely irrelevant to this discussion. I like bitcoin too, I'm invested in bitcoin. I care about bitcoin, which is why I'm here worrying and fretting that LN is a bad idea.
This is from the lighting network paper itself. Near infinite amount of transactions. Off chain. Things that make you go hmm
"If we presume a large network of channels on the Bitcoin blockchain,
and all Bitcoin users are participating on this graph by having at least one
channel open on the Bitcoin blockchain, it is possible to create a near-infinite
amount of transactions inside this network. The only transactions that are
broadcasted on the Bitcoin blockchain prematurely are with uncooperative
channel counterparties."
May 06, 2017, 12:36:33 PM
Quoted from Slack Chat with Craig Wright
https://pastebin.com/zU6YZWXK
"Layer 2 networks will require the introduction of AML and intermediary controls. These are localised networks in the form of existing intermediaries.
They can be allowed to operate with Bitcoin competitively, but not at the expense of open exchange. This being what they fear, why use L2 if you have no need?
Those who do not think that government can set in and control this are either naive or malicious. There is no other view. This is not a false dichotomy. These are the only options.
In all cases, L2 will require systems that can be controlled and they will require the interaction of merchants and other parties. Networks such as lightning centralise and offer control on a platter."
https://pastebin.com/zU6YZWXK
"Layer 2 networks will require the introduction of AML and intermediary controls. These are localised networks in the form of existing intermediaries.
They can be allowed to operate with Bitcoin competitively, but not at the expense of open exchange. This being what they fear, why use L2 if you have no need?
Those who do not think that government can set in and control this are either naive or malicious. There is no other view. This is not a false dichotomy. These are the only options.
In all cases, L2 will require systems that can be controlled and they will require the interaction of merchants and other parties. Networks such as lightning centralise and offer control on a platter."
Entirely false information. Your mistake was believing a word that clown says.
Please elaborate why its entirely false? In any case to hell with the Craig Wright link. That wasn't my point. My point is my own formed before I read any of Craigs own opinions.
Why is LN not going to centralise transactions? What is the protection against this? i assume we all want the common goal of bitcoin remaining decentralised. Links please. I need enlightenment so I can join the Wall Observer flock of sheeples
May 06, 2017, 12:08:57 PM
Quoted from Slack Chat with Craig Wright
https://pastebin.com/zU6YZWXK
"Layer 2 networks will require the introduction of AML and intermediary controls. These are localised networks in the form of existing intermediaries.
They can be allowed to operate with Bitcoin competitively, but not at the expense of open exchange. This being what they fear, why use L2 if you have no need?
Those who do not think that government can set in and control this are either naive or malicious. There is no other view. This is not a false dichotomy. These are the only options.
In all cases, L2 will require systems that can be controlled and they will require the interaction of merchants and other parties. Networks such as lightning centralise and offer control on a platter."
https://pastebin.com/zU6YZWXK
"Layer 2 networks will require the introduction of AML and intermediary controls. These are localised networks in the form of existing intermediaries.
They can be allowed to operate with Bitcoin competitively, but not at the expense of open exchange. This being what they fear, why use L2 if you have no need?
Those who do not think that government can set in and control this are either naive or malicious. There is no other view. This is not a false dichotomy. These are the only options.
In all cases, L2 will require systems that can be controlled and they will require the interaction of merchants and other parties. Networks such as lightning centralise and offer control on a platter."
Entirely false information. Your mistake was believing a word that clown says.
Please elaborate why its entirely false? In any case to hell with the Craig Wright link. That wasn't my point. My point is my own formed before I read any of Craigs own opinions.
Why is LN not going to centralise transactions? What is the protection against this? i assume we all want the common goal of bitcoin remaining decentralised. Links please. I need enlightenment so I can join the Wall Observer flock of sheeples
May 06, 2017, 11:27:37 AM
^This is the old paradigm. It no longer fits. The alt market is paying off like hotcakes. There must be a reason. Maybe Japan is still bitter about being Goxxed by BTC proper?
It still fits.
ICO's are the new Spaincoin.
That's most of the ICO's over the past few years...we have had a few interesting ones with big potential lately!
Take Equibit for example ! Equibit will use the blockchain to speed up stock market settlement dates...
Didn't Blythe masters get over 50 million funds for a similar project in the Au ?!
Lots of cool projects being done with the blockchain ...
May 06, 2017, 11:21:12 AM
BLEED ALTCOINS BLEED !!!!!!!!! 
The "bigger" altcoins are still a lot of % up (in BTC) compared to 2 weeks ago.
Lot of easy cash -> buy altcoin, wait for pump, dump for BTC. Increase BTC holdings while sleeping.
That pretty much sums it up Richard
Some of the bigger alts have decoupled from bitcoins grasp as ppl buy Bitcoin so they can buy more of the best of class alts!
May 06, 2017, 11:18:45 AM
BLEED ALTCOINS BLEED !!!!!!!!!
The "bigger" altcoins are still a lot of % up (in BTC) compared to 2 weeks ago.
Lot of easy cash -> buy altcoin, wait for pump, dump for BTC. Increase BTC holdings while sleeping.
May 06, 2017, 11:05:08 AM
^This is the old paradigm. It no longer fits. The alt market is paying off like hotcakes. There must be a reason. Maybe Japan is still bitter about being Goxxed by BTC proper?
It still fits.
ICO's are the new Spaincoin.
May 06, 2017, 11:01:54 AM
^This is the old paradigm. It no longer fits. The alt market is paying off like hotcakes. There must be a reason. Maybe Japan is still bitter about being Goxxed by BTC proper?
May 06, 2017, 10:58:34 AM
Altcoin manipulators be like
May 06, 2017, 10:41:25 AM
BLEED ALTCOINS BLEED !!!!!!!!!
May 06, 2017, 10:30:44 AM
What the hell is going on at Coinbase? Their price is hovering around $1600. It's way higher than even Bitfinex even though Coinbase is fully functional. Any buywalls recently or anything?
This is whats going on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jG3_-KKHkZ8
History lesson folks.
May 06, 2017, 09:45:42 AM
Gosh. Bitcoin is so boring today.
Well, give our baby a little break.
A pit stop isn't bad and imo pretty healthy for all of us. The other coins aren't doing better as well. Market seems to need to take a breath before the party continues in one way or the other.
But yeah I agree that it feels a bit strange, because we were spoiled the last few days.
May 06, 2017, 09:37:02 AM
Quoted from Slack Chat with Craig Wright
https://pastebin.com/zU6YZWXK
"Layer 2 networks will require the introduction of AML and intermediary controls. These are localised networks in the form of existing intermediaries.
They can be allowed to operate with Bitcoin competitively, but not at the expense of open exchange. This being what they fear, why use L2 if you have no need?
Those who do not think that government can set in and control this are either naive or malicious. There is no other view. This is not a false dichotomy. These are the only options.
In all cases, L2 will require systems that can be controlled and they will require the interaction of merchants and other parties. Networks such as lightning centralise and offer control on a platter."
https://pastebin.com/zU6YZWXK
"Layer 2 networks will require the introduction of AML and intermediary controls. These are localised networks in the form of existing intermediaries.
They can be allowed to operate with Bitcoin competitively, but not at the expense of open exchange. This being what they fear, why use L2 if you have no need?
Those who do not think that government can set in and control this are either naive or malicious. There is no other view. This is not a false dichotomy. These are the only options.
In all cases, L2 will require systems that can be controlled and they will require the interaction of merchants and other parties. Networks such as lightning centralise and offer control on a platter."
Entirely false information. Your mistake was believing a word that clown says.
May 06, 2017, 09:35:49 AM
Just don't tell me that you're holding USDT on the shady exchange called Poloniex. 
Just be a bit more patient (Finex wise).
Not a word to be bandied about lightly - what's the basis of this accusation? Just be a bit more patient (Finex wise).Bitfinex is only $33 higher than Stamp!
This is a sign of confidence in the market. The interesting thing about the current price is that GDAX is $15 higher than Bitfinex! 
May 06, 2017, 09:31:56 AM
Gosh. Bitcoin is so boring today.
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